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Post by pfrchaos on Dec 2, 2021 10:26:06 GMT -5
I really want a wrestling game that leans heavily into historic events or really just something like what NHL does with relive the moment. I used to love that feature in sports games back in the SNES up to around PS2 days. I’ve never really enjoyed the showcases in modern WWE games though. I feel like nowadays the graphics are too close to reality, and it makes it seem more “uncanny valley” because the differences between the real event and the game scenario are more pronounced, compared to the more abstract older graphics. This is why I enjoyed Austin's showcase on 360, I didn't want to play that mode with the current engine, I even used a RCA cable instead of the component cable. That and I thought most of the character models looked right for the time period, unlike the next gen version where the graphics were better but most of the wrestlers looked current (old men) playing dressup. Yeah, it looks like a PS2 game, which is actually awesome since the PS2 was released in 2001.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Dec 2, 2021 10:50:23 GMT -5
At this point, I’ll take anything for a wrestling game. I just want something new, I miss my wrestling games and it’s been a while since we had one.
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Post by cage on Dec 2, 2021 10:56:23 GMT -5
You know what? Let's take it a step further. It would be really cool if they released the game on as many consoles as possible.
Introducing WWE 2K22....for the GameCube?!
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Dec 2, 2021 11:21:32 GMT -5
You know what? Let's take it a step further. It would be really cool if they released the game on as many consoles as possible. Introducing WWE 2K22....for the GameCube?! Wouldn’t that be great though? lol, it wouldn’t be wildly entertaining to me to see the game released on Sega Genesis and what that would look like. Like, which 10 superstars would they pick? What features would be implemented in a low budget way but still be represented? I really dug stuff like that in the old days, for example in WWF Warzone, I’ll never forget Owens Finisher was the spinning heel kick rather than the Sharpshooter because they couldn’t do ground moves. So when I’d play the PlayStation Warzone, I’d make the heel kick his variant finisher lol. The limitations add to the enjoyment . To this day I like the Headbangers because they were in Warzone as the only true Tag Team in the game, it put them over haha. I remember Madden like, 09 or something randomly came out for original XBOX and it was about 4 or so years after they had stopped making games for it
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Post by cage on Dec 2, 2021 14:57:46 GMT -5
Yeah, each limitation would make all of them unique.
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Post by Kanenite on Dec 13, 2021 1:24:48 GMT -5
Here's my Pros and Cons about the Hit List trailer.
Pros:
Arenas:
If the In-Game asset shot in the background of the MyGM part is anything to go by, the Arch way Smackdown set from late 2019 will be one of the selectable arenas which delights me as that's the set I wanted the most. I also like having the Late 2019 PPV/Thunderdome-esque set option for RAW, and of course it's cool to see the latest Universal set too. Hopefully all of those parts are also available in Create An Arena.
Visuals:
The game looks fantastic! Not sure if it's the PS4 or PS5 port (2K have replied to people asking about if it's Next Gen or not on Instagram, they confirmed it but it's deleted now. Seems like pretty decent confirmation IMO, they probably want a proper announcement thus the delete) but it looks incredible.
Rey Mysterio Showcase:
It seems he's the Showcase Star which is great. Rey Rey has had so many opponent in different companies/eras over the years so there's a lot of possibilities here for Retro In-Game content. I'm guessing the "May 19th" 2006 Smackdown match against Kane will be included seeing how we know Kane's tights/boots from that time frame are going to be in the game since they mistakenly put them on current Kane in the older trailer (can't be Armageddon '05 because Big Show won't be in).
Cons:
Controls:
These controls shown are absolutely terrible! One of the biggest things 2K/VC got hit over the head with during feedback of 2K20 was how badly the 2K19 controls were missed; They were perfect and did not need to be touched. These controls are arguably worse than 2K20's, and also seems to hint that they nerfed the general mechanics of what we can do. It seems there is only 1 set of grapples now OR we now have to do some tired cliche wrestling video game "lock up" animation every time we want to hit a grapple with perhaps different move categories available depending on the direction pressed (this would take away the unique lunge animations for grapples if that's the direction they go sadly). There is also a Duck option which is silly because ducking animations can simply be programed as a straight up reversal animation like every other game, there doesn't need to be a distinction for that. Dodge is here as well but we didn't really see anything for that so I'll reserve judgment on that feature.
Lack of Reversal Stocks:
It seems the limited Reversal system is gone which is a HUGE bummer. Matches will become reversal fests, bringing old problems back to the series. No more tactical play, just spam offense and constantly mash the reversal button when you aren't in control.
Lack of Stamina (or at least downplaying it):
Another huge problem. Pacing will constantly be fast (ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK). Also hints that the Submission system could be changed as Stamina played a part in the boost feature (another huge mistake would be ruining that as it's currently the best it's ever been since you can have some nice back and forth in the minigame and much like the Pin System even have a chance of escaping with high damage).
Default Camera Angle and Visual Effects:
The default camera angle looks very reminiscent of Fight Night.... this is something that didn't need to be changed it was perfect as is. It seems like they are implying there's more cinematic angles during moves which I think is pretty cool and hopefully true. The visual effects suck. I never want to see red flashes or violent shakes when people do moves; that completely takes away from the presentation.
All in all, it's really too early to know if I'll be getting this or not but I seen a lot of things that are deal breakers for me unless they can be changed or I'm simply looking too far into things and they aren't what they seem. I really want this game to be great like 2K19 was but damn.... not sure if that's going to happen if they undo like every positive gameplay mechanic they've introduced since 2K16.
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Post by Kanenite on Jan 16, 2022 1:07:02 GMT -5
Possible cover leak. Don't think I've ever seen these images of Rey before so it seems pretty legit. It also seems we are getting an official Cover reveal this coming week as well from 2K so the timing lines up.
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Post by Evil Abed on Jan 16, 2022 10:28:43 GMT -5
Some more rumors/details
Phantom Mask Undertaker would be a nice change. NWO 4 Life edition is intriguing, wonder if The Giant makes it as part of the rumored outdated roster. Also apparently the Boneyard Match will be a feature, assumedly much like the House of Horrors/whatever 2k20's nonsense was.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Jan 16, 2022 11:34:41 GMT -5
I was wondering when they were going to borrow the card concept from MyTeam and NBA 2K22, sounds like they are doing it with MyFaction.
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Post by cage on Jan 17, 2022 7:26:02 GMT -5
Title should be WWE 2K21/2K22.
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Post by Kanenite on Jan 18, 2022 12:50:56 GMT -5
GAME’s Pre Order slips that show off the front AND back art. More info on the back (plus some of the stuff already mentioned by that source on Twitter that originally leaked the cover) Also it will be interesting to see if Liger is in since there’s a Starrcade ‘96 Pack
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Post by cage on Jan 18, 2022 13:31:51 GMT -5
The draft. WWE has shown us roughly 5 different ways that they can carry out a draft (or "superstar shake up") I'd like to see all of them included and we can choose which we want to use.
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on Jan 18, 2022 13:51:28 GMT -5
But is it really a WWE draft without immediately doing crossovers via wild card rules and invasion angles?
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Post by cage on Jan 18, 2022 16:45:19 GMT -5
No, but we can dream.
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Post by Self-Savior on Jan 18, 2022 20:10:57 GMT -5
The features on the back of the case look to be decent. I wonder how many different Reys will be included. Hopefully they'll show some Showcase stuff off Thursday.
I'd like the game to be good, but part of me thinks it'll be a glitchy mess like 2K20...
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Post by cage on Jan 18, 2022 21:15:40 GMT -5
I honestly just want more community stuff. After you finish the in-game stuff, downloading what the community puts out is the next best thing. Either that or have something like what Pokemon does after you become League Champion.
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Post by pfrchaos on Jan 18, 2022 21:21:19 GMT -5
Huh, if NXT UK is selectable in GM Mode then there will be definitely be some additions to that brand since the only people returning would be Dar, Andrews, and Mustache Mountain. I guess it would be the equivalent of when ECW was in the SVR games.
Oh damn, just realized they can easily include a free agent pool with all the people who were released.
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Post by cage on Jan 18, 2022 21:49:46 GMT -5
I think we're owed more showcases because they skimped out on us for 2k18.
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Post by Kanenite on Jan 19, 2022 16:55:39 GMT -5
Leaked from the same guy on Twitter
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Post by pfrchaos on Jan 19, 2022 17:13:52 GMT -5
lol, that cover. Hilarious if it's real, all three Outsiders and then Hogan randomly added.
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