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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on May 7, 2021 20:59:34 GMT -5
You’re lying if you say you’ve never pronounced “ruthless aggression” like John Cena atleast once in your life... not even once.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on May 7, 2021 21:08:15 GMT -5
You’re lying if you say you’ve never pronounced “ruthless aggression” like John Cena atleast once in your life... not even once. Lies but ok
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Post by CM Tusk on May 7, 2021 21:16:22 GMT -5
I’m happy Cesaro is getting a push but I miss The Bar.
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Post by finnbalor1 on May 8, 2021 4:01:49 GMT -5
Glad to see Jimmy back
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Post by TKO Propagandist on May 8, 2021 6:09:13 GMT -5
I’m happy Cesaro is getting a push but I miss The Bar. So does Sheamus he was crying on the last pay per view network doc because of how much he misses Cesaro
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Post by TKO Propagandist on May 8, 2021 6:11:40 GMT -5
First Smackdown I haven't watched since March 2020. The 80s theme rather than 2000s one didn't sit right with me.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 8:04:08 GMT -5
Why did they do an 80’s feel and theme for a classic smackdown? Smackdown didn’t start till 99 lmao this company is so weird with their shows. Michael Cole didn’t even have the right denim on
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on May 8, 2021 11:09:20 GMT -5
I can get how an 80's vibe would creep into a throwback show from 1999. How many boomers consider the turn of the millennium as the distant past?
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Post by CM Tusk on May 8, 2021 11:29:55 GMT -5
I’m happy Cesaro is getting a push but I miss The Bar. So does Sheamus he was crying on the last pay per view network doc because of how much he misses Cesaro Can understand why. Their chemistry was insane. One of the best tag teams of the last decade.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on May 8, 2021 19:40:43 GMT -5
Smackdown started in 99 so the 80's style really did not work.
Also I like Cesaro, but he's not a main event guy. He's a great talent and a future HOFer but he isn't someone who would draw an audience or bring in ratings. His most entertaining run by far was The Bar.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on May 8, 2021 20:58:27 GMT -5
Smackdown started in 99 so the 80's style really did not work. Also I like Cesaro, but he's not a main event guy. He's a great talent and a future HOFer but he isn't someone who would draw an audience or bring in ratings.His most entertaining run by far was The Bar. I’ve never really understood mindsets like this. You like him, you think he’s a great talent and a future HOFer so why wouldn’t you want to see him succeed and go into the main event scene? Why does drawing an audience or ratings concern you? Usually when I like or enjoy a wrestler, the last thing I care about is “can they draw or boost ratings” because WWE’s corporate figures don’t affect me one bit, I just want to see a talent I enjoy be sky rocketed to their absolute potential regardless. I’m not calling you out personally because I’ve seen a lot of people on social media constantly putting down talented people with mediocre mic skills about not being able to “draw” or increase ratings and I’ve never understood why wrestling fans care about ratings so much when they could just enjoy people and/or the product for what it is.
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Post by CM Tusk on May 8, 2021 22:09:01 GMT -5
On another note, the Smackdown mid card is stacked.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 9, 2021 0:32:27 GMT -5
Smackdown started in 99 so the 80's style really did not work. Also I like Cesaro, but he's not a main event guy. He's a great talent and a future HOFer but he isn't someone who would draw an audience or bring in ratings.His most entertaining run by far was The Bar. I’ve never really understood mindsets like this. You like him, you think he’s a great talent and a future HOFer so why wouldn’t you want to see him succeed and go into the main event scene? Why does drawing an audience or ratings concern you? Usually when I like or enjoy a wrestler, the last thing I care about is “can they draw or boost ratings” because WWE’s corporate figures don’t affect me one bit, I just want to see a talent I enjoy be sky rocketed to their absolute potential regardless. I’m not calling you out personally because I’ve seen a lot of people on social media constantly putting down talented people with mediocre mic skills about not being able to “draw” or increase ratings and I’ve never understood why wrestling fans care about ratings so much when they could just enjoy people and/or the product for what it is. There’s a huge kinship, yet also a key difference, between being a wrestling fan and being an armchair booker/promoter/critic. The overall flow of the wrestling internet has turned us into the latter, and so a big part of “fandom” now is we pretend we know the business, we know how to write a wrestling show the “right” way and are better at it than Vince McMahon, etc. Happens in pretty much every thread. So it’s perfectly possible to enjoy someone’s work as a fan and still believe they’re not the “right” choice to be the main character. Say you’re playing a wrestling promoter simulator, and you really like Cesaro. He could even be your favourite wrestler to watch. But his stats for charisma and speaking ability are super low, and you’re playing as the game’s most mainstream, global company. You can’t, in good faith, go with him as the face of the company if you’re trying to succeed. By all accounts, Vince McMahon loves R-Truth’s work. But that doesn’t have to mean he gives R-Truth the McIntyre/Lashley/Reigns spot.
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Post by CM Tusk on May 9, 2021 1:10:42 GMT -5
I’ve never really understood mindsets like this. You like him, you think he’s a great talent and a future HOFer so why wouldn’t you want to see him succeed and go into the main event scene? Why does drawing an audience or ratings concern you? Usually when I like or enjoy a wrestler, the last thing I care about is “can they draw or boost ratings” because WWE’s corporate figures don’t affect me one bit, I just want to see a talent I enjoy be sky rocketed to their absolute potential regardless. I’m not calling you out personally because I’ve seen a lot of people on social media constantly putting down talented people with mediocre mic skills about not being able to “draw” or increase ratings and I’ve never understood why wrestling fans care about ratings so much when they could just enjoy people and/or the product for what it is. There’s a huge kinship, yet also a key difference, between being a wrestling fan and being an armchair booker/promoter/critic. The overall flow of the wrestling internet has turned us into the latter, and so a big part of “fandom” now is we pretend we know the business, we know how to write a wrestling show the “right” way and are better at it than Vince McMahon, etc. Happens in pretty much every thread. So it’s perfectly possible to enjoy someone’s work as a fan and still believe they’re not the “right” choice to be the main character. Say you’re playing a wrestling promoter simulator, and you really like Cesaro. He could even be your favourite wrestler to watch. But his stats for charisma and speaking ability are super low, and you’re playing as the game’s most mainstream, global company. You can’t, in good faith, go with him as the face of the company if you’re trying to succeed. By all accounts, Vince McMahon loves R-Truth’s work. But that doesn’t have to mean he gives R-Truth the McIntyre/Lashley/Reigns spot. Have to disagree with you here, which is rare. I say build the whole damn company around R-Truth.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 9, 2021 1:47:55 GMT -5
Have to disagree with you here, which is rare. I say build the whole damn company around R-Truth. If Vince cared about money and had a clue about wrestling, R-Truth vs Brock would main event the next 2-3 Manias. But that would actually make sense, be entertaining and not insult the fans intelligence, so knowing Vince, it won’t happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 2:22:05 GMT -5
Smackdown started in 99 so the 80's style really did not work. Also I like Cesaro, but he's not a main event guy. He's a great talent and a future HOFer but he isn't someone who would draw an audience or bring in ratings.His most entertaining run by far was The Bar. I’ve never really understood mindsets like this. You like him, you think he’s a great talent and a future HOFer so why wouldn’t you want to see him succeed and go into the main event scene? Why does drawing an audience or ratings concern you? Usually when I like or enjoy a wrestler, the last thing I care about is “can they draw or boost ratings” because WWE’s corporate figures don’t affect me one bit, I just want to see a talent I enjoy be sky rocketed to their absolute potential regardless. I’m not calling you out personally because I’ve seen a lot of people on social media constantly putting down talented people with mediocre mic skills about not being able to “draw” or increase ratings and I’ve never understood why wrestling fans care about ratings so much when they could just enjoy people and/or the product for what it is. I'm laughing a lot. Not because I think you're saying something stupid or anything, but because these both apply to me simultaneously lol. I know plenty of my favourites aren't "draws" and that many of the "draws" are people I really don't give a crap about. I'm not bent out of shape about it or concerned outside of wanting to see more of my favourite wrestlers, and I get sad when I can't see them wrestle like I know they can. I.e. Aleister Black, Ricochet to name a couple in WWE. Conversely, I could really care less to ever see Braun Strowman again. (inb4 "Braun isn't a draw, blah blah. I took 2 seconds to think of a name.) If we're going back years and years, I couldn't get enough Mr. Perfect/the Genius and Million Dollar Man, but keep Hogan away. Deep down I understood why Mr. Perfect would never have a Hulk Hogan reign, but it didn't stop me from cheering for it. Conversely, I'm one of the big ratings geeks on here. My first degree is in economics, and that sort of thing I find very very interesting. I can definitely separate the two interests, and my interest in ratings doesn't really impact my enjoyment of any one product or any wrestlers. Just that I find the business side of it super interesting, and I like thinking about how guys like Vince and TK have to balance appeasing the ratings gods, etc, while at the same time inevitably having their own pet projects and personal favourites they want to see succeed.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on May 9, 2021 6:43:57 GMT -5
There’s a huge kinship, yet also a key difference, between being a wrestling fan and being an armchair booker/promoter/critic. The overall flow of the wrestling internet has turned us into the latter, and so a big part of “fandom” now is we pretend we know the business, we know how to write a wrestling show the “right” way and are better at it than Vince McMahon, etc. Happens in pretty much every thread. So it’s perfectly possible to enjoy someone’s work as a fan and still believe they’re not the “right” choice to be the main character. Say you’re playing a wrestling promoter simulator, and you really like Cesaro. He could even be your favourite wrestler to watch. But his stats for charisma and speaking ability are super low, and you’re playing as the game’s most mainstream, global company. You can’t, in good faith, go with him as the face of the company if you’re trying to succeed. By all accounts, Vince McMahon loves R-Truth’s work. But that doesn’t have to mean he gives R-Truth the McIntyre/Lashley/Reigns spot. Have to disagree with you here, which is rare. I say build the whole damn company around R-Truth. Even R-Truth got a one time main event run vs Cena. No reason why Cesaro doesn't deserve the same & can't do well within such parameters.
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Post by judas on May 10, 2021 5:57:33 GMT -5
No Aleister Black video this week. Hmmm.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on May 10, 2021 11:49:10 GMT -5
No Aleister Black video this week. Hmmm. One was in the plans, but was pulled due to time constraints. Mia Yim was also set to debut but her segment was pushed back a week.
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Post by hitmancmedge on May 10, 2021 15:31:40 GMT -5
No Aleister Black video this week. Hmmm. One was in the plans, but was pulled due to time constraints. Mia Yim was also set to debut but her segment was pushed back a week. Apparently she is actually gonna be Mia Yim as well and gonna get a push.
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