johnnyhanson21
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on May 20, 2021 18:18:12 GMT -5
Extremely talented and thought he could have been a main eventer and future Wrestlemania headliner.With his age and skills could have been one of the main players the WWE built around for the next 20 years.
Sad to see how things turned out,really dicey in terms of if another company like AEW,IMPACT,ROH,NJPW...ect should pick him up and give him a 2nd chance.Never was charged with anything but a ton of texts,pics,and people that seem to be able to connect him to what he's being accused of.Sending dick pics and sexual message to under age boys & girls and just being accused is and awful tough road to try and comeback from and more so for someone in a position of power to look the other way on that matter and to give you a 2nd chance.
So much talent on the open market right now with Dream,Elgin,Aries,Tessa,Del Rio,Scrull...ect could make a strong 3rd company in America but all of those talents have so many issues that you would have to look the other way on.
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Post by k5 on May 20, 2021 18:47:15 GMT -5
good riddance! finally some good news
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Post by FLUX '97 on May 20, 2021 18:53:35 GMT -5
Trips getting rid of Dream and Drake in 48 hours feels like a fever dream. Good riddance, now haul that pedophile off to ing jail.
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personagamer
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Post by personagamer on May 20, 2021 19:02:16 GMT -5
good riddance! finally some good news he was more than likely innocent
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Post by CM Tusk on May 20, 2021 19:09:33 GMT -5
good riddance! finally some good news he was more than likely innocent His own lawyer argued that what he did wasn’t illegal in Florida because the teenage was of consenting age. He did what he was accused of.
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Post by FLUX '97 on May 20, 2021 19:10:05 GMT -5
good riddance! finally some good news he was more than likely innocent Man got caught in 4K sending pictures of his wang to minors and asking them what school they go to. Give it up.
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Post by Nick the Quick on May 20, 2021 19:23:31 GMT -5
Umm....yea, this thread will be lucky to make it to the morning.
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CymruX2
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Post by CymruX2 on May 20, 2021 19:25:02 GMT -5
Great talent, always enjoyed his work damn shame he's a nonce.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 20, 2021 19:33:00 GMT -5
I dont keep track, nor cared to of his personal life but was there ever any actual proof of what he was accused of? Not just random screen shots that you could or couldn't say without a doubt was from him or not.....or was this simply a case of the "cancel culture" where you're guilty until proven innocent? Nope, that’s all there was Just being curious I did a quick search and literally the first report released today about his release says the following... bleacherreport.com/articles/10003305-velveteen-dream-reportedly-released-from-wwe-contractAs someone that's very much into photo editing/graphic design...the fact that these were never turned into law enforcement, looked into by law enforcement or verified by any social media company should throw a red flag that this is exactly what it sounds like, the over-reaction of "cancel culture" In fact, literally every single article Ive looked at, whether from 2000 or 2001 uses the terms "accusations" and "allegations", meaning there is 0 factual proof.
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Post by drifter on May 20, 2021 19:41:59 GMT -5
Glad he's gone, and not for any reason of the accusations that were against him, I just never liked him. I can admit the guy had talent, but never liked anything of the character. I hated the Prince inspired gimmick when WCW did it, and I hated it with Dream. Always hated the name too.
And Rob Schamberger who does Canvas 2 Canvas posted this shortly after Dream's release was announced:
So seeing something like that might give more into what lead to him finally being cut, with it not just being the accusations.
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personagamer
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Post by personagamer on May 20, 2021 20:04:08 GMT -5
he was more than likely innocent His own lawyer argued that what he did wasn’t illegal in Florida because the teenage was of consenting age. He did what he was accused of. source?
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Post by CM Tusk on May 20, 2021 20:57:43 GMT -5
His own lawyer argued that what he did wasn’t illegal in Florida because the teenage was of consenting age. He did what he was accused of. source? I will try to hunt down the articles and video on it as it’s been over a year. Also it’s worth noting that when Dream made a statement denying the accusations he did admit it was his nude photo sent to the kids. He just claimed he didn’t send it.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on May 20, 2021 21:07:39 GMT -5
I'm going to say it, I still believe he's innocent as nothing has come out to convince me he's not, even HHH has said while looking into reports that there was no evidence of him being guilty, if he is guilty then I am for his release but seeing the lack of evidence it looks like cancer culture forced him to be exiled. I agree, I would need substantial evidence. I dont want another Enzo situation where someone's career in the WWE ends because of lies.
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personagamer
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Post by personagamer on May 20, 2021 21:14:38 GMT -5
I will try to hunt down the articles and video on it as it’s been over a year. Also it’s worth noting that when Dream made a statement denying the accusations he did admit it was his nude photo sent to the kids. He just claimed he didn’t send it. still wasn't him who sent it but somehow he's the one who should be punished
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Post by Weemanv1 on May 20, 2021 21:18:44 GMT -5
I'm not going to jump to conclusions like some are and scream "CaNcEl CuLtUrE" at his release when we don't know the reason why. Seems silly to jump to that conclusion while insulting anyone coming to the conclusion that he's guilty of something that also isn't proven yet. For all we know this was just more cost cutting measures for someone they weren't using.
For the record, I do believe he's guilty, but it's not my job to sort that out. It's the courts'. Hence why it's not a case of guilty until proven innocent. If it was he'd have been arrested a long time ago.
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Post by CM Tusk on May 20, 2021 21:38:56 GMT -5
I will try to hunt down the articles and video on it as it’s been over a year. Also it’s worth noting that when Dream made a statement denying the accusations he did admit it was his nude photo sent to the kids. He just claimed he didn’t send it. still wasn't him who sent it but somehow he's the one who should be punished It was set from his account after he posted his phone number telling fans to call him. Something he had done a few times in the past. If you’re saying you don’t think it was him you are saying it’s more believable that teenagers hacked his account and phone number to send themselves a picture of him naked but do nothing else than it is that he sent it himself. And again, this is just from that one accusation. There were a couple including one from a few wrestler who knew him and had screenshots of texts.
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on May 20, 2021 22:00:26 GMT -5
still wasn't him who sent it but somehow he's the one who should be punished It was set from his account after he posted his phone number telling fans to call him. Something he had done a few times in the past. If you’re saying you don’t think it was him you are saying it’s more believable that teenagers hacked his account and phone number to send themselves a picture of him naked but do nothing else than it is that he sent it himself. And again, this is just from that one accusation. There were a couple including one from a few wrestler who knew him and had screenshots of texts. I personally think he did it, but you have to admit there are some holes in the first group of accusers story. The deleted chats that messed with the context of both sides messages. Then they also had a group chat called "Exposing N words" with each other. After that came out, they deleted their Twitter account. Something fishy is going on. Like I said, I think he did it, but there's definitely more to the story than we will ever know.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 22:08:08 GMT -5
Somebody get court Bauer on the phone. He got a decent run out of Teddy friggin Hart lol.
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Post by PrincessOfSunlight on May 21, 2021 4:50:01 GMT -5
Amazing athlete and one of a kind talent. It’s a massive shame, won’t speculate on the issues further but I only feel this is a sad conclusion all round.
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mrassbillygunn
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Post by mrassbillygunn on May 21, 2021 6:35:03 GMT -5
Just a pity, had a great look, really entertaining in the ring and I had high hopes for him.
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