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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 18:56:53 GMT -5
I was really hoping on the recent A&E documentary it would finally be revealed why Vince never brought back Randy Savage after he left in 94 and after they bought WCW in 2001. I’m watching the dvd now WWE released shortly after his death and they said we’ll never know. Why is that? Will Vince never reveal that while he’s alive? I really believe it was the 2003 video where Savage said he’d beat up Triple H and steal his girl Stephanie McMahon.
Btw I can’t believe it’s been 10 years already since he died. RIP Randy Savage.
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Post by The Brain on May 20, 2021 23:25:37 GMT -5
I never believed any of that stuff with Steph. I always looked at it as Vince just being so upset that Randy jumped ship like he did when he thought he'd be a WWF lifer.Cant blame em as he was definitely frustrated with not being in the ring.You can tell here when he makes the announcement on Raw that he's upset over the whole situation.
Just a shame we never got that reconciliation between the two sides for him to return for a final match/proper farewell.
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Post by HuskerTornado on May 21, 2021 1:13:50 GMT -5
It was Savage taking the Slim Jim contract to WCW. That was money out of Vince's pocket during a lean time. It definitely cut McMahon, and was seen as a complete betrayal.
All of the Steph rumors over the years were asinine, conspiracy theorists trying to come up with something salacious.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on May 21, 2021 5:22:54 GMT -5
Vince made the mistake of taking him out of the ring then held a grudge when it blew back in his face. Time was likely to heal the wounds but I guess Randy didn't wanna do business with him again. As history shows, Vince usually is one to bury the hatchet.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 21, 2021 12:56:53 GMT -5
I never believed any of that stuff with Steph. I always looked at it as Vince just being so upset that Randy jumped ship like he did when he thought he'd be a WWF lifer.Cant blame em as he was definitely frustrated with not being in the ring.You can tell here when he makes the announcement on Raw that he's upset over the whole situation. Just a shame we never got that reconciliation between the two sides for him to return for a final match/proper farewell.
Ahhh yes, the same show where apparently Randy Savage debuted on WCW Nitro and Jerry Lawler had to take Savage's place.... so Lawler always says.
Impressive since this was 1994, Nitro was a year away from starting, and Savage debuted on WCW Saturday Night.
So nice try, King, get your facts straight before you attempt to bury someone.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 21, 2021 12:58:02 GMT -5
It was Savage taking the Slim Jim contract to WCW. That was money out of Vince's pocket during a lean time. It definitely cut McMahon, and was seen as a complete betrayal. All of the Steph rumors over the years were asinine, conspiracy theorists trying to come up with something salacious.
Which is odd too, because on the old Raw episodes from 1995, I remember Diesel and Bam Bam Bigelow were doing the Slim Jim commercials. So I am guessing once that the WWF contract expired they went to WCW in 1996 to have Savage do them again.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 15:27:05 GMT -5
It was Savage taking the Slim Jim contract to WCW. That was money out of Vince's pocket during a lean time. It definitely cut McMahon, and was seen as a complete betrayal. All of the Steph rumors over the years were asinine, conspiracy theorists trying to come up with something salacious. Yeah but there really was a video where Savage said he was going to beat HHH up and take his girl Stephanie McMahon. It’s as if he was fueling the 1994 rumors. |
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Post by HuskerTornado on May 21, 2021 22:33:54 GMT -5
It was Savage taking the Slim Jim contract to WCW. That was money out of Vince's pocket during a lean time. It definitely cut McMahon, and was seen as a complete betrayal. All of the Steph rumors over the years were asinine, conspiracy theorists trying to come up with something salacious. Which is odd too, because on the old Raw episodes from 1995, I remember Diesel and Bam Bam Bigelow were doing the Slim Jim commercials. So I am guessing once that the WWF contract expired they went to WCW in 1996 to have Savage do them again. Yeah, Slim Jim was a long time sponsor, Savage wasn't the first to do them, either. |
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Post by HuskerTornado on May 21, 2021 22:34:34 GMT -5
It was Savage taking the Slim Jim contract to WCW. That was money out of Vince's pocket during a lean time. It definitely cut McMahon, and was seen as a complete betrayal. All of the Steph rumors over the years were asinine, conspiracy theorists trying to come up with something salacious. Yeah but there really was a video where Savage said he was going to beat HHH up and take his girl Stephanie McMahon. It’s as if he was fueling the 1994 rumors. Weren't those from his rap album or something? |
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Post by JC Motors on May 22, 2021 11:07:12 GMT -5
Yeah but there really was a video where Savage said he was going to beat HHH up and take his girl Stephanie McMahon. It’s as if he was fueling the 1994 rumors. Weren't those from his rap album or something? Not from his Rap Album |
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Post by Warriah' on May 26, 2021 17:35:02 GMT -5
It was Savage taking the Slim Jim contract to WCW. That was money out of Vince's pocket during a lean time. It definitely cut McMahon, and was seen as a complete betrayal. All of the Steph rumors over the years were asinine, conspiracy theorists trying to come up with something salacious. I don't buy that either. Slim Jim stayed with WWF for a good while. And Vince made up with PLENTY of guys who he had bigger beef with because he knew they could make eachother money. I think the most logical answer is it was Hogan in Vince's ear. As soon as Hogan goes to TNA Randy starts to get acknowledged by the WWE (figures, games) but he died before a proper reconciliation could take place. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 16:59:23 GMT -5
Don’t know how true this is, but supposedly Vince called Savage in 2010 to be inducted into the hall of fame, but Randy said only if Lanny and his dad would be inducted too. Vince didn’t like the idea so Savage didn’t go for it.
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Post by JokerFC on May 28, 2021 8:53:12 GMT -5
There are plenty of folks who say Hogan had ZERO influence over McMahon in the 00s. Blaming him for Savages absence is confusing as hell to me.
TONS of Vinces top guys complained to him in person about bringing the nWo in & he still did it. If there was money to be made & Vince liked the idea? He would have been brought back.
Something happened between them after he left.
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Post by The Real Chillary on May 28, 2021 9:47:32 GMT -5
I'm not saying I believe the Macho/Steph rumour. But rumours don't take on a life of their own this much if there isn't some truth to it.
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Post by cordless2016 on May 30, 2021 10:04:09 GMT -5
I don’t buy the Savage/Steph rumors.
I think in the 90s, Vince thought he was going to be a WWF lifer and he jumped ship to their biggest competitor and took the Slim Jim contract with him. But I don’t think a Savage return was ever off the table as I believe Savage said he had brief talks with them on a return in 2000.
Jump to 2002, and I think Hogan’s beef with Randy at the time prevented a potential return. Hogan was always a bigger star than Randy, and if Hogan didn’t want Randy back, I can see Vince agreeing to this. Then Hogan goes to TNA in 2010 and Savage is being mentioned again by the WWF and promotional work for their video game. No coincidence there.
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Post by PJ on May 30, 2021 12:23:38 GMT -5
If the rumors had any truth to them Savage would have been dead or in jail not fired from the wwe. Vince would have killed him or called the police on Savage for rape. No father would allow that to happen. Especially to their underaged daughter. So there’s no truth to the rumors.
As for the comments made to Triple H. That’s just trash talk for Triple H calling him a dinosaur. So his replay was basically he’s more of a man than Triple H who could steal his wife.
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Post by jason1980s on May 30, 2021 14:58:32 GMT -5
Vince is a guy who proposed an incest angle with his daughter so who really knows how he would feel? I think ultimately it comes down to Vince being heart broken and the same situation happened with Andre. Vince loved Andre but had no more use for him and so Andre's last appearance was for a WCW event. Andre just happened to not live long enough for Vince to hold a long term grudge. Vince may even hold an internal resentment against himself for not letting Randy wrestle and making Randy leave.
There are a few people that I think Vince loved from his boom 1980s/90s era and they were Bret, Andre, Perfect, Roddy and Randy. Those were his Blassie's or Moolah's who he would always try to make a spot for but unlike the last two, most of the others were still young and capable of wrestling and WCW was a more financially better option so four of them left Vince.
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Post by Warriah' on May 31, 2021 3:54:16 GMT -5
If the rumors had any truth to them Savage would have been dead or in jail not fired from the wwe. Vince would have killed him or called the police on Savage for rape. No father would allow that to happen. Especially to their underaged daughter. So there’s no truth to the rumors. As for the comments made to Triple H. That’s just trash talk for Triple H calling him a dinosaur. So his replay was basically he’s more of a man than Triple H who could steal his wife. The underage aspect is greatly exaggerated, in fairness. If true, Stephanie would have been 18 in 1994. |
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Post by The Real Chillary on May 31, 2021 4:32:53 GMT -5
If the rumors had any truth to them Savage would have been dead or in jail not fired from the wwe. Vince would have killed him or called the police on Savage for rape. No father would allow that to happen. Especially to their underaged daughter. So there’s no truth to the rumors. As for the comments made to Triple H. That’s just trash talk for Triple H calling him a dinosaur. So his replay was basically he’s more of a man than Triple H who could steal his wife. Where are you getting rape from? The rumour is he slept with her, nothing about rape. |
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Post by PJ on May 31, 2021 4:56:20 GMT -5
If the rumors had any truth to them Savage would have been dead or in jail not fired from the wwe. Vince would have killed him or called the police on Savage for rape. No father would allow that to happen. Especially to their underaged daughter. So there’s no truth to the rumors. As for the comments made to Triple H. That’s just trash talk for Triple H calling him a dinosaur. So his replay was basically he’s more of a man than Triple H who could steal his wife. Where are you getting rape from? The rumour is he slept with her, nothing about rape. I don’t read the dirt sheets or listen to podcasts. But whenever someone on here would bring it up...The rumor was she was underaged. So if that’s to be believed then that’s considered rape. |
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