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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jun 6, 2021 11:09:46 GMT -5
Yeah. He’s one of the only wrestlers who feels like a big deal. I’m very excited to see him back. Wanna see him wrestle Keith Lee, Bobby Lashley and mob boss Roman for sure.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jun 6, 2021 11:23:24 GMT -5
Not really. His matches are way too repetitive and have the same formula. I feel like some of the high profile matches could of used different movesets or spots. For instance, we all wanted to see randy Orton vs Brock and at least one F5 into an rko. Instead we get a three minute match with Brock just squashing randy. I get that it was for the shock factor, but please. I won’t like I do however want to see Brock face Lashley since it’s one of those dream matches we’ve never gotten. What’ll be interesting would be how he interacts with Heyman.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jun 6, 2021 15:15:26 GMT -5
Bork's matches took a turn at some point. Until about 2018, you knew his matches were going to be something completely different & thrilling compared to what else you were gonna get.
I think the title being thrown at Vince coincided with a decline for the character. Both creatively & in-ring. Not purposefully or anything, I just think it was poetic. The COVID infuced break from TV was a benefit for him in the long run.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jun 6, 2021 15:37:05 GMT -5
Brocks gave us some stand out work and some tough stuff.
I didn’t mind him as champion few times but they kept giving him the title.
His 16 month reign was to much for me especially because you could of just gave Roman the strap at 34.
I hated him squashing Kofi; If they wanted him as champion so bad I wouldn’t of minded it if he took kofi down in standout match.
We’ve gotten some gems; and I don’t mind the WM 33 Goldberg match formula some big man matches can be saved that way. Or even some matches can be just be these 6-7 minute explosive encounters but they kept burning those out and didn’t modify the formula And it felt to repetitive
Brock could of taken a FEW more job outs. But it is what it is. I think sometime away from the product helped out.
I think Brocks done mostly everything and I think he doesn’t NEED a second run and no more title reigns
But; we could get some more stuff.
A proper run with the Fiend would be nice; and that could just lead to 10 minute brutal chaotic match but WWE has done some solid damage
Riddle would be fun or if WWE builds Sheamus up for a confrontation
Maybe rematches against Styles and Bryan if done right would be fun
Maybe a proper match with Rey Mysterio in like Steel Cage where more story takes over
Lashley and McIntyre program would be good and maybe match with Cesaro
I wouldn’t mind Roman/Brock I think if done right it would rewrite the garbage of the 2018 program and equal or transcend the 2015 program with a new dynamic with Roman as Heyman guy
If Owens was built up and Lesnar and him wrestled this brutal falls count anywhere style maybe
Definitely we could get some more out of Brock
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Post by slappy on Jun 6, 2021 17:55:20 GMT -5
God no. I didn't like him when he debuted and I still don't like him almost 20 years later. I hope he stays gone.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Jun 6, 2021 23:11:43 GMT -5
Sure do, I wasn’t even wanting to see him removed back when everyone seemed to be jumping on the bandwagon to get rid of him. WWE is severely lacking in star power and his absence from the card means the feel and legitimacy of events has taken a hit. Sure he is paid a boatload, but it’s worth it. Very few events feel any special these days.
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Post by hbkjason on Jun 7, 2021 5:22:25 GMT -5
Not at all, I do not think he has felt like a big deal or an attraction in many, many years. I find his matches boring as hell and as harsh as it sounds, if he were never to wrestle again in the WWE, I would not miss him one bit.
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Post by McBlake on Jun 7, 2021 6:38:32 GMT -5
Motivated and interested Brock is the most captivating and one of the best wrestlers in the planet.
There's always that worry that he's gonna throw a few suplex's, hit an F5 and get the pin though and I have zero interest in ever seeing that Brock again.
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Post by Chip on Jun 7, 2021 7:33:22 GMT -5
Nope. His last 10 or so matches besides the Goldberg thing at Wrestlemania have all been basically the same, and boring as sh*t. I miss Brock when he gave a  about putting on good/interesting wrestling matches. Not just "suplex suplex suplex 15 finisher kick outs 1-2-3" |
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Post by CymruX2 on Jun 7, 2021 13:57:11 GMT -5
I miss pre-UFC lesnar, when he had more than a fist full of moves... Lesnar that actually WENT in the ring, combined with the hype value of current Lesnar would be immense.
I can totally understand why he doesn't bother with a full move set, why bother when you're getting paid a boat load to expo German suplexes and F5's 5 times a year.
It is fun when he comes in and mauls someone, you know he's gonna win but it's fun, but as soon as he's in the title picture I loose all interest.
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Post by JL24FPS on Jun 7, 2021 14:02:06 GMT -5
I respect Brock.
I do not wish to see Brock back on WWE TV unless they are doing something different with him.
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Post by kaleb9 on Jun 7, 2021 14:52:44 GMT -5
I sort of miss Brock but I hope the rumors are True with him facing Bobby Lashley
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jun 7, 2021 15:17:53 GMT -5
Yeah. Hell yeah. Very few guys make so.ething feel important like he did.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jun 7, 2021 21:26:20 GMT -5
He last good match was against AJ Styles other than that I don't miss him, because he did the same thing and his matches were usually 5-6 min short
I do however miss John Cena, since hes been gone there hasnt been any big build matches.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jun 8, 2021 9:52:26 GMT -5
Yep.. his matches are generally the same and he pretty much squashes whoever but he’s fun to watch.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 8, 2021 10:47:59 GMT -5
Not really. Brock is like a no-win situation at this point.
If the purpose of his feud is to put somebody over, then it takes away the aura and mystique of his character. Once you slay the beast, he can't be billed as unbeatable anymore, and he's taken more than enough loses at this point that the cat is out of the bag. He's lost huge matches to Cena, Triple H, Goldberg, Reigns, Rollins and McIntyre....
So having him LOSE is no good.....but having him WIN is also no good, because unfortunatly it seems like WWE is only interested in giving him Title matches, so if he becomes WWE or Universal Champion, since he's not full time, you basically take your show and have an absentee Champion which hurts the show on a weekly basis because he'll never be there.
At this point, the only thing people might want is to FINALLY get Lesnar vs Lashley....but again: if he loses,you serve Lesnar another big loss...and if he wins, then you not only hurt the show by putting the belt on a part timer, but it makes Lashley look like sh*t because somebody who hasn't been seen in a year and a half can just walk in off the street and beat the "ALMIGHTY".
I don't know what you do with Brock at this point. He doesn't fit in with current WWE. Unless you do one-off "BATTLE OF LEGENDS" type deals where he has just showdown matches against guys like Cena (if you can get him back) or maybe even Edge. That way it really doesn't matter who wins and loses and the guys just disappear for 6 months at a time anyway...basically you book them like boxing matches where there is no story, just the BIG FIGHT promotion. Like if WWE were to just doa BREAKING NEWS at this years SummerSlam, we've got John Cena vs Brock Lesnar with both men making their HUGE RETURNS to WWE!
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jun 8, 2021 17:18:07 GMT -5
No, that act is as stale as Goldberg at this point. I’d be down for the Lashley match, but only if Lashley wins. I’d also be down for one final showdown with Reigns with Heyman as the wildcard, but only if Roman wins. After one or both of those matches I’m good on Brock for a lifetime, and he’s got more money than he’ll ever know what to do with anyway.
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Post by @brit_figs on Jun 9, 2021 1:50:40 GMT -5
Yes.
Just seen the Roman Vs Brock plan for Summerslam wonder if it's true.
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Jun 9, 2021 11:19:55 GMT -5
I didn't mind him as much as others did. The problem is if you can only identify a handful of talents he's gonna put on a competitive match with, how useful is he to the grand scheme? Why should we care if he faces some midcarder when Creative builds it so we all know only the likes of Reigns/Cena have a realistic chance? We shouldn't, only to be pissed when Brock rolls over them in 8 hugging seconds.
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Post by Eric on Jun 9, 2021 19:34:40 GMT -5
Not really. Brock is like a no-win situation at this point. If the purpose of his feud is to put somebody over, then it takes away the aura and mystique of his character. Once you slay the beast, he can't be billed as unbeatable anymore, and he's taken more than enough loses at this point that the cat is out of the bag. He's lost huge matches to Cena, Triple H, Goldberg, Reigns, Rollins and McIntyre.... So having him LOSE is no good.....but having him WIN is also no good, because unfortunatly it seems like WWE is only interested in giving him Title matches, so if he becomes WWE or Universal Champion, since he's not full time, you basically take your show and have an absentee Champion which hurts the show on a weekly basis because he'll never be there. At this point, the only thing people might want is to FINALLY get Lesnar vs Lashley....but again: if he loses,you serve Lesnar another big loss...and if he wins, then you not only hurt the show by putting the belt on a part timer, but it makes Lashley look like sh*t because somebody who hasn't been seen in a year and a half can just walk in off the street and beat the "ALMIGHTY". I don't know what you do with Brock at this point. He doesn't fit in with current WWE. Unless you do one-off "BATTLE OF LEGENDS" type deals where he has just showdown matches against guys like Cena (if you can get him back) or maybe even Edge. That way it really doesn't matter who wins and loses and the guys just disappear for 6 months at a time anyway...basically you book them like boxing matches where there is no story, just the BIG FIGHT promotion. Like if WWE were to just doa BREAKING NEWS at this years SummerSlam, we've got John Cena vs Brock Lesnar with both men making their HUGE RETURNS to WWE! Good post. Brock having the title and being absent was why I wanted him to leave. It's a problem to me when one of the two big, important mens' titles you have is basically off limits. Maybe WWE thought it made for more of an exciting build to the PPV matches, but most of the time it just meant you didn't have to watch because either Brock wasn't there or he was going to squash Kofi or Bryan eventually at said PPV or Paul Heyman was going to spout the same diatribe he always did, with or without Brock in the ring with him. It wore thin with me after so many months/years. That said, I like Brock, and I respect what he does and how he does it, so I'd like to see him back IF Vince and Prichard and everyone else can 1) come up with something new for him and 2) keep him out of the title picture. He can be just as threatening and scary and dominant without needing the strap. WWE already has a problem with limiting themselves on who can be champ because it's always a big scary tough guy and everyone else has been losing to them for years. It's a distant memory now that Finn Bálor won the Universal Title. No way he or AJ or Cesaro or Kofi or Jeff Hardy or anyone else we like can win it now, and that only leaves a handful of guys who can, most of which have already been squashed by Brock, so keep it away from him. Can't he just be big and scary and tough and angry at someone who's not the champ? Anyway, to answer the OP, I miss Cena more than Brock, but it's better for WWE and me as a fan if they're both back. |
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