The All Retro Figures General Discussion [Closing Soon!]

That sounds like a safe bet. Looking things over, other possibilities might include:

Nikolai Volkoff
Boris Zhukov
Rick Martel
Warlord
Kamala
Kimchee (gimmick predates WWF I think)
Zeus (probably WAY too hard to make and market as Tiny Lister in black pants)

The 20th spot can be the Andre with a different head LOL

Can I just point out you, in your first post stated:

“This topic is meant for nothing more than to discuss the looks of the figures and how you wish to display them in your collection.”

Do you not see the irony you have essentially posted a paragraph none of which contains what you asked for this thread to be about?

1. Using a reputable factory
2. Ron being paid for his sketches
3. The estates being paid a good sum

None of that is about the look or how you want to display the figures?

I've said something to this effect since the start, but there's no evidence of it because reasons.
"Discussing the figures" often contains aspects of the circumstances surrounding those figures.
It's not the fault of the immediate posters if the perception of such discussion is negative or positive as it pertains to the end product.

I don’t think there’s tensions

I just don’t think it’s particularly fair to say only discuss x y or z unless it’s positive PR in which case discuss whatever your like - which is we’re it appears we are? Your ok to say he is using a reputable factory but then I imagine you wouldn’t like me to comment further and ask why that’s even mentioned? Is it insinuating others are not? Why is that relevant?

Either we are allowed to discuss business practices, methods or prices or we are not. The direction of conversation can’t be based on if it’s positive or criticism

I would say any criticism should be constructive and while it’s ok to challenge with questions they should be based on the business itself and not personal.

The positivity isn’t just good life practice but an attempt to keep this thread from being shut down like the others. It’s also a directive from those who run this board. It isn’t always my preference to walk that line but I like posting here and interacting with many of you great people so I try to respect the rules that others put in place and choose to enforce. Trolling and insulting other members is over the line. People using this as a platform to attack a toy maker or get into tribalism or politics is exactly what I wanted to avoid in this thread which is why I requested people stick to discussing the figures and the artwork. I’m pro-wrestling figure above all else.

To add clarification about the reputable factory comment - that was what was said in the interview. It is the same factory as another name brand toy maker but I can’t remember who. I have no way of confirming that but it was a possible reasoning for the current cost of the figures which was recently discussed a page or two prior. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to what other toy makers use.

I agree insulting others personally is over the line, that doesn’t mean we can’t critique a product or business method though

And yes positivity is good in life - but it’s not always sunshine and rainbows, people need to be able to receive criticism as well as praise and handle it in the right way and not feel any comment is a personal attack

There is literally a thread in the Mattel forum for worst figure of the year, there’s weekly threads about distribution problems, lack of contact and promotion for the crowd funding project / lack of info since it was successful, not getting certain iterations of figures out before they lose access to that person…

I’m the aew forum there’s threads about figures not in scale, who people are waiting for better versions of, distribution issues, skin colour tone etc

In this forum it’s constantly brought up super 7 are very slow delivering products once they’re out for per order, there was a right debate around the micro brawlers limited runs etc

feedback can be positive and negative and both can be constructive- the feedback from places like here can lead to positive change like the replacement kane arm etc, should people have just stayed quiet about it and accepted a sub par figure? Now that did go a bit ott imo bit if no one mentioned it would we have got a replacement?

Just because one is a huge company and another a one man operation they should still be held to the same standards of quality, transparency, accountability if / when things go wrong and standard of business practises.

Critiquing - and that includes negative comments towards a product or business model / practise is not a personal attack.

Matt Cardona was very vocal about how he critiqued his super 7 figure to get the best product possible, he mentioned numerous times he asked for his body to be more jacked, his tan to be better etc snd has since pointed out issues with the good brothers super 7 figures so obviously his critiques while not positive because he felt something needed to be better led to a change for the better snd something positive come out of it because he ended up with a much better figure than if he had just accepted the first version.

I think because he is a one man operation you and others may construe it that way but as I have said before when commenting on his communication it is often inaccurate or not clearly articulated and I’ve provided factual examples of that and since it can’t be debunked because the tweets are there for everyone to see - that’s not a personal attack, that a critique he needs to get better at communicating about his product that he is charging a premium price point for

The Zombie figures look to have more of a plastic shine to them which will help them fit in better with the Hasbro figures. Still, the heads look way too realistic.

Yup.

Which hey, have to give Zombie credit, the figures look great. He just was wrong about them fitting into everyone’s collection.