Billy Snorticus
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Post by Billy Snorticus on Jul 29, 2021 22:04:30 GMT -5
did it just go back 10 buys? lmfao wtf
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 29, 2021 22:15:35 GMT -5
Initially I loved this and had it not been money up front would’ve backed it. As I’ve had more time to think about it I’ve talked myself out of it. I think Mattel have made a handful of mistakes 1. Money up front - if not babies how long will refunds take? People don’t want $250 taken for a month then it not bring funded and have to wait for a refund - or even if refunded instantly you have still lost that money for the month is how I personally look at it 2. My fave era but let’s be honest most favour golden or attitude eras 3. It’s a ring - most if not all of us have a ring. Yes this is more detailed but it doesn’t have that special feeling even with the entrance 4. 1 figure with the initial tier most have a version of - and great versions at that. There’s a few great nash / diesel figures The buy it now sell it for more in a few months or back it otherwise we won’t get anything else attitude from some on here or social media etc also doesn’t help - people don’t like others trying to coerce them “Special feeling”… now I’ve heard it all. ATTENTION Mattel! Make note that there is a guy on a message board who requires there to be a special feeling in order for him to buy from you. I know exactly what he means though - to back something like this, it has to get your juices going... and for many, this just doesn't. |
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Post by kgchampion on Jul 29, 2021 23:21:25 GMT -5
If it’s an arena, which it is literally called on the website, I think they should’ve dropped Diesel and Doink and added a blue guardrail, blue floor mats, and a referee.
I’m pretty sure even less people would be interested in that over Diesel and Doink, but those people are wrong.
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uc
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Post by uc on Jul 30, 2021 1:16:15 GMT -5
did it just go back 10 buys? lmfao wtf yup! Back under 900... |
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Old Zeke
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'Fraid old Zeke, he rides up here with me. Can't trust a pig with watermelons, you know.
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Post by Old Zeke on Jul 30, 2021 2:16:20 GMT -5
Looks like there's been some more cancellations. I've backed this thing, but I'm pretty sure I'll be getting a refund at the end of the month. This is not going to get funded.
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 30, 2021 2:19:06 GMT -5
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Post by newgenandy on Jul 30, 2021 2:20:49 GMT -5
“Special feeling”… now I’ve heard it all. ATTENTION Mattel! Make note that there is a guy on a message board who requires there to be a special feeling in order for him to buy from you. I know exactly what he means though - to back something like this, it has to get your juices going... and for many, this just doesn't. Yup Snake mountain - that ain’t getting made unless it’s a Kickstarter, it was 4ft tall or something daft, no shop has shelf space for that The barge likewise it was huge and elaborate This is a slightly more detailed version of something we already have |
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Jul 30, 2021 3:13:21 GMT -5
$20 elites hit 100 like a year after they’re off the shelves. $30 Ultimates hit $200 less than a year after they’re off the shelves. If you can look at the market of wrestling figures right now and think this thing will only appreciate in value by around $50 you ain’t paying attention. If you know the secondary market then you would know $100-150 is most people’s max budget that they are willing to spend. That’s why this ring is failing to make its production. With a price tag this high it would need to double and triple it’s value to make it a worthy investment vs taking the $250 and investing in 10 elites. Also need to factor in shipping something this size. This is not a money maker for the resale market it’s a dud. But not my money. Bruh most collectors are willing to drop double, triple, even more to get what they want. This is an expensive hobby. This campaign is failing because people don’t want to tie 250 up for a month if it’s unsuccessful. The only reason this isn’t backed is because Mattel decided to take payment immediately. |
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figdrip
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Post by figdrip on Jul 30, 2021 3:18:42 GMT -5
If you know the secondary market then you would know $100-150 is most people’s max budget that they are willing to spend. That’s why this ring is failing to make its production. With a price tag this high it would need to double and triple it’s value to make it a worthy investment vs taking the $250 and investing in 10 elites. Also need to factor in shipping something this size. This is not a money maker for the resale market it’s a dud. But not my money. Bruh most collectors are willing to drop double, triple, even more to get what they want. This is an expensive hobby. This campaign is failing because people don’t want to tie 250 up for a month if it’s unsuccessful. The only reason this isn’t backed is because Mattel decided to take payment immediately. Double or triple on a single $20 figure... 100%. A $250 ring? No way. I Definitely don’t think that’s why it’s failing as that’s normal with almost all pre orders including ringside however If that logic is true it should get backed within the last week. We shall see |
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TheRockers
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Post by TheRockers on Jul 30, 2021 3:28:32 GMT -5
Its now losing backers. Well I thought it was a cool idea and I will continue to back to the end. Not sure what this means for this website moving forward.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jul 30, 2021 3:37:09 GMT -5
Hold out hope that everyone waits till the last minute. If not, oh wells.
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GR81J
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Post by GR81J on Jul 30, 2021 3:37:16 GMT -5
Should of done the entrance stage y’all shown years ago, instead we got this trash that won’t pass LOL
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Jul 30, 2021 3:53:38 GMT -5
Bruh most collectors are willing to drop double, triple, even more to get what they want. This is an expensive hobby. This campaign is failing because people don’t want to tie 250 up for a month if it’s unsuccessful. The only reason this isn’t backed is because Mattel decided to take payment immediately. Double or triple on a single $20 figure... 100%. A $250 ring? No way. I Definitely don’t think that’s why it’s failing as that’s normal with almost all pre orders including ringside however If that logic is true it should get backed within the last week. We shall see Ultimate Rock is selling for slightly under 300 right now. A 1000% increase. SGT Slaughter has been sold out a couple days and the pre orders are fetching 150 already. A 500% increase. Even regular mass retail items double/triple in value as soon as they're off store shelves and they only increase. Some Legends/DM etc sell in excess of $500. I guarantee if backed the Diesel alone is going to be pushing that $250-300 price tag on the aftermarket, if not immediately then soon after. I've seen the cage alone from Jakks Real Scale HIAC ring sell for more than £500. There is always demand on after market wrestling figures and wrestling rings, especially when they're limited in number (which this would be). If you buy two of these things and it's successfully backed, you'll easily be able to get a set for free, and make a massive profit selling the extras.
The reason this is (or has) failed is because of the immediate payment. 100%. People saw on day 1 they took the money and decided not to bother. Most won't check back to see how it's doing, and even if they did so few people were willing to allow Mattel to greedily hold onto their money they'll see it as a failed campaign and won't back. If Mattel had used the "we'll collect the money at the end of the campaign" model that literally every other crowdfunding campaign uses this woulda been backed. |
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jdthegame82
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Post by jdthegame82 on Jul 30, 2021 4:56:11 GMT -5
Just 4099 backers til we get the ring and diesel. 6099 til we get it with doink lol.
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Post by chaz on Jul 30, 2021 5:01:40 GMT -5
Double or triple on a single $20 figure... 100%. A $250 ring? No way. I Definitely don’t think that’s why it’s failing as that’s normal with almost all pre orders including ringside however If that logic is true it should get backed within the last week. We shall see Ultimate Rock is selling for slightly under 300 right now. A 1000% increase. SGT Slaughter has been sold out a couple days and the pre orders are fetching 150 already. A 500% increase. Even regular mass retail items double/triple in value as soon as they're off store shelves and they only increase. Some Legends/DM etc sell in excess of $500. I guarantee if backed the Diesel alone is going to be pushing that $250-300 price tag on the aftermarket, if not immediately then soon after. I've seen the cage alone from Jakks Real Scale HIAC ring sell for more than £500. There is always demand on after market wrestling figures and wrestling rings, especially when they're limited in number (which this would be). If you buy two of these things and it's successfully backed, you'll easily be able to get a set for free, and make a massive profit selling the extras.
The reason this is (or has) failed is because of the immediate payment. 100%. People saw on day 1 they took the money and decided not to bother. Most won't check back to see how it's doing, and even if they did so few people were willing to allow Mattel to greedily hold onto their money they'll see it as a failed campaign and won't back. If Mattel had used the "we'll collect the money at the end of the campaign" model that literally every other crowdfunding campaign uses this woulda been backed. The problem is this was never going to reach 8k or even 7k backers, and therefore the value flies out of the window. $250 for this without those extra tiers is just too much. Buying two and flipping one later on is a great notion on paper, but it's a massive risk. I've seen HIAC, MITB, rings, etc. all pop-up for astronomical prices and sometimes they struggle to sell because not everyone can drop $500+ on things they want to buy. |
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razorrock
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Post by razorrock on Jul 30, 2021 5:07:20 GMT -5
If this was something people really wanted, they'd be happy to put the 250 down. The fact is this just isn't as widely popular as the people at Mattel thought it would be.
If this was a more sought after "dream item" then more people would fork over the 250 and keep their fingers crossed it gets funded.
This is not failing cause of how they take the money. It's failing because not enough people are interested in it.
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Post by Crane on Jul 30, 2021 5:12:52 GMT -5
Any guess on the final number of backers? I'm gonna guess around 1,300. I genuinely don't see it passing 2,000.
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jacobl18
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Post by jacobl18 on Jul 30, 2021 6:06:04 GMT -5
Any guess on the final number of backers? I'm gonna guess around 1,300. I genuinely don't see it passing 2,000. It will probably get to 3000 backers. I see RSC and other Wrestling stores buying some of these up the last week or so. It makes no sense not to back this in the last couple of days, you either get your money back or you own something that’s very rare and will be worth triple what you paid on it. |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 30, 2021 6:37:47 GMT -5
Any guess on the final number of backers? I'm gonna guess around 1,300. I genuinely don't see it passing 2,000. I’ll guess it hits 2,000 and maybe a couple hundred over that |
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jul 30, 2021 6:43:48 GMT -5
Personally, I hope it doesn't get backed. I don't know about you guys, but I know we will see Diesel and Doink in the Ultimates line at some point and that's all I really want from the deal.
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