wrestling4life
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Post by wrestling4life on Aug 8, 2021 16:43:14 GMT -5
A third backer would be great. Someone like Razor would make alot of sense or even shawn michaels. Fatu would be very cool. I would love to see a Kona Crush or Evil Krush. That would hit the spots. Especially that was Doink first fued and he wrestled Macho Man at Wrestlemania 10. Would make so much sense.
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 8, 2021 18:12:42 GMT -5
A third backer would be great. Someone like Razor would make alot of sense or even shawn michaels. Fatu would be very cool. I would love to see a Kona Crush or Evil Krush. That would hit the spots. Especially that was Doink first fued and he wrestled Macho Man at Wrestlemania 10. Would make so much sense. If we're fantasy booking this, Evil Crush from Mania X to match Randy would hit the spot
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Aug 8, 2021 18:25:20 GMT -5
They should include doink. With the 5000. After macho ends, so some will get all 3 some will get just diesel and doink
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 8, 2021 18:31:40 GMT -5
They should include doink. With the 5000. After macho ends, so some will get all 3 some will get just diesel and doink If they do this, they need to give people at least a small window of still having Randy up, while also letting everyone know that they're getting Doink
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Post by kaleb9 on Aug 8, 2021 18:42:06 GMT -5
A Ultimate Shawn Michaels to go with Diesel would be nice but I’m likening what we get if it get backed
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Post by FFK on Aug 8, 2021 19:27:15 GMT -5
Man I thought it would pick up steam when macho was add. It did but now is stalling again.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Aug 8, 2021 19:32:35 GMT -5
I still haven't pre-ordered yet. Might do it before the thirteen, but if I don't then I prolly won't...
Telling me I can't have a figure because I didn't pre-order in time is an insult to any collector and Mattel keeps rolling on with FOMO tactics... I mean "Early Bird Specials"
If I'm being completely honest, Mattel is trying to get away with doing the least... drip feeding us until they get what they want. If I knew without a doubt that we would be getting 3 Ultimate figures at 5,000 backers, then I in. We hold the power and yet we have collecters in here asking and begging us to cave in!
In video games, developers make content and then strip content and sell it as "pre-order bonuses" or sell it as DLC down the line. Mattel is doing the same thing... Macho Man was prolly apart of the original concent and at some campaign meeting, content was discussed and strip from the project only to be added if it would help their bottom line.
I get the talk of value in the secondary market, but these are hypothetical dollars vs real dollars... Real dollars that Mattel gets to keep and draw interest or fund other project while we have to wait a year out... some of us could be dead by then and never get the chance to resell the figures for hypothetical fortunes!
I'd rather hold the line and make Mattel work to appeal to us! And at the moment, I'm not impressed with the offering. Give us some gaurd rails and an "In Your House entrance piece, or even a Todd Pettengill figure... This would be the perfect situation to give us a first time in the line figure! Give something back to the community that has supported the WWE Mattel line since the early days.
I know! I know! I sound like an "entitled spoiled brat" but it's my money. Money that I've earned and I get to choose where it goes. As far as I'm concerned, Mattel doesn't want my money bad enough for me to back this project!
#holdtheline
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 20:10:56 GMT -5
Steve said on the YouTube show that the $250 price tag for 5000 backers was necessary for the set to not be in the red. The only reason they were able to include the Macho pack was because they cut funding from the marketing budget. Therefore, I highly doubt they would add anything else at this point. That also includes throwing Doink in at 5000.
There was a reason the Doink was calculated in with 2000 extra backers. Those aren’t just random numbers. They probably have experts crunching numbers to weigh the production costs vs profits. At a certain point, if they keep throwing things in, the gains become so low (or they hit a loss) that the whole thing is not even worth the trouble.
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Post by SquashMatch on Aug 8, 2021 20:35:44 GMT -5
A third backer would be great. Someone like Razor would make alot of sense or even shawn michaels. Fatu would be very cool. I would love to see a Kona Crush or Evil Krush. That would hit the spots. Especially that was Doink first fued and he wrestled Macho Man at Wrestlemania 10. Would make so much sense. If we're fantasy booking this, Evil Crush from Mania X to match Randy would hit the spot Man, Crush would be amazing. I would imagine already having a Macho ultimate helps in the creation of the additional preorder one here as they already have the character sculpt and would just need a few more changes/soft good changes. Rather than starting from complete scratch. I hope this thing hits 5,000. Not sure what else can be done to get word of mouth out about this being a thing and get people willing to pony up the 270-ish post tax/shipping.
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Post by koreanthunder86 on Aug 8, 2021 20:38:42 GMT -5
Not much luck today with the numbers and I worry that it will be like this until Friday where it might go up a little but not alot. And then after the project will not move forward.
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Post by kgchampion on Aug 8, 2021 21:02:34 GMT -5
Steve said on the YouTube show that the $250 price tag for 5000 backers was necessary for the set to not be in the red. The only reason they were able to include the Macho pack was because they cut funding from the marketing budget. Therefore, I highly doubt they would add anything else at this point. That also includes throwing Doink in at 5000. There was a reason the Doink was calculated in with 2000 extra backers. Those aren’t just random numbers. They probably have experts crunching numbers to weigh the production costs vs profits. At a certain point, if they keep throwing things in, the gains become so low (or they hit a loss) that the whole thing is not even worth the trouble. I love you. I agree with you, but Doink was a bad choice. If people cared that much about Doink, he wouldn’t have been peg warming so hard with both of his elites. One was even store exclusive and there were still tons of Doinks sitting on pegs. There has never been a high demand for Doink. I think the safe bet would have been Bret or Shawn. Even an Undertaker. They’ve released elite purple Taker with full tattoo sleeves 3x, but they never did the forearm tats-only Taker as an elite. Or Survivor Series ‘93 Taker with the colonial flag coat. Diesel I get because Kevin Nash is a big star and sells well, but Doink is such a weird choice to convince people to spend $250.
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Aug 8, 2021 21:10:14 GMT -5
Steve said on the YouTube show that the $250 price tag for 5000 backers was necessary for the set to not be in the red. The only reason they were able to include the Macho pack was because they cut funding from the marketing budget. Therefore, I highly doubt they would add anything else at this point. That also includes throwing Doink in at 5000. There was a reason the Doink was calculated in with 2000 extra backers. Those aren’t just random numbers. They probably have experts crunching numbers to weigh the production costs vs profits. At a certain point, if they keep throwing things in, the gains become so low (or they hit a loss) that the whole thing is not even worth the trouble. I love you. I agree with you, but Doink was a bad choice. If people cared that much about Doink, he wouldn’t have been peg warming so hard with both of his elites. One was even store exclusive and there were still tons of Doinks sitting on pegs. There has never been a high demand for Doink. I think the safe bet would have been Bret or Shawn. Even an Undertaker. They’ve released elite purple Taker with full tattoo sleeves 3x, but they never did the forearm tats-only Taker as an elite. Or Survivor Series ‘93 Taker with the colonial flag coat. Diesel I get because Kevin Nash is a big star and sells well, but Doink is such a weird choice to convince people to spend $250. what about an exclusive dink with the ring, would also save money they don’t use as much plastic as a regular elite
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 21:17:42 GMT -5
Steve said on the YouTube show that the $250 price tag for 5000 backers was necessary for the set to not be in the red. The only reason they were able to include the Macho pack was because they cut funding from the marketing budget. Therefore, I highly doubt they would add anything else at this point. That also includes throwing Doink in at 5000. There was a reason the Doink was calculated in with 2000 extra backers. Those aren’t just random numbers. They probably have experts crunching numbers to weigh the production costs vs profits. At a certain point, if they keep throwing things in, the gains become so low (or they hit a loss) that the whole thing is not even worth the trouble. I love you. I agree with you, but Doink was a bad choice. If people cared that much about Doink, he wouldn’t have been peg warming so hard with both of his elites. One was even store exclusive and there were still tons of Doinks sitting on pegs. There has never been a high demand for Doink. I think the safe bet would have been Bret or Shawn. Even an Undertaker. They’ve released elite purple Taker with full tattoo sleeves 3x, but they never did the forearm tats-only Taker as an elite. Or Survivor Series ‘93 Taker with the colonial flag coat. Diesel I get because Kevin Nash is a big star and sells well, but Doink is such a weird choice to convince people to spend $250. I would have definitely been crazy excited for an Ultimate Razor Ramon as a stretch goal. But I think they went with Doink because they were going for a figure that would not otherwise be released at retail. I’m not saying Ultimate Doink would never happen, but it’s highly unlikely and if it did happen it wouldn’t be for a really long time. This was kind of an opportunity to expedite that. Figures like a Razor Ramon or Bret or even another Undertaker in the ultimate line is much easier to pull off and more likely to happen in the near future regardless of how this project turns out. The whole point of this project is to bring an experience that we would not normally see. Diesel is the exception because they needed some kind of mainline anchor with the rest of the set. Because regardless of how one may feel about him, his figures sell. I love you.
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Post by newworldoz on Aug 8, 2021 21:42:11 GMT -5
I do think the Macho Announcer package really changes things. Especially for people thinking of reselling the parts. A 1 in 5000ish Macho Man will be a very desirable item.
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Post by KPnDC on Aug 8, 2021 21:44:17 GMT -5
If we're fantasy booking this, Evil Crush from Mania X to match Randy would hit the spot Man, Crush would be amazing. I would imagine already having a Macho ultimate helps in the creation of the additional preorder one here as they already have the character sculpt and would just need a few more changes/soft good changes. Rather than starting from complete scratch. I hope this thing hits 5,000. Not sure what else can be done to get word of mouth out about this being a thing and get people willing to pony up the 270-ish post tax/shipping.Can WWE, Mattel's partner not mention this on their social media? Or is Mattel saving that for the final week? I try not to question people running billion dollar corporations but something seems off here. WWE announced on Smackdown their Youtube channel crossed 80M subs. Or is Mattel's thinking, we went to the hardcore fanbase, MWFP, FullyPossable and Notsam. If those hardcore fanbases couldn't get it to 8k, then what's the point?
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Post by SquashMatch on Aug 8, 2021 21:47:01 GMT -5
Man, Crush would be amazing. I would imagine already having a Macho ultimate helps in the creation of the additional preorder one here as they already have the character sculpt and would just need a few more changes/soft good changes. Rather than starting from complete scratch. I hope this thing hits 5,000. Not sure what else can be done to get word of mouth out about this being a thing and get people willing to pony up the 270-ish post tax/shipping.Can WWE, Mattel's partner not mention this on their social media? Or is Mattel saving that for the final week? I try not to question people running billion dollar corporations but something seems off here. WWE announced on Smackdown their Youtube channel crossed 80M subs. Or is Mattel's thinking, we went to the hardcore fanbase, MWFP, FullyPossable and Notsam. If those hardcore fanbases couldn't get it to 8k, then what's the point? This would be the way to go. I was more thinking on our side, but would hope Mattel would be able to leverage WWE programming for something like this to get the word out. Honestly if it wasn't for this forum I'm not sure I would have a clue this thing, was a thing.
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Post by koreanthunder86 on Aug 8, 2021 21:48:33 GMT -5
Even on WWE YouTube with the Mattel video plug would be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 21:53:25 GMT -5
Man, Crush would be amazing. I would imagine already having a Macho ultimate helps in the creation of the additional preorder one here as they already have the character sculpt and would just need a few more changes/soft good changes. Rather than starting from complete scratch. I hope this thing hits 5,000. Not sure what else can be done to get word of mouth out about this being a thing and get people willing to pony up the 270-ish post tax/shipping.Can WWE, Mattel's partner not mention this on their social media? Or is Mattel saving that for the final week? I try not to question people running billion dollar corporations but something seems off here. WWE announced on Smackdown their Youtube channel crossed 80M subs. Or is Mattel's thinking, we went to the hardcore fanbase, MWFP, FullyPossable and Notsam. If those hardcore fanbases couldn't get it to 8k, then what's the point? I definitely find it odd that WWE is not pushing this on their YouTube or announcing it on their shows. I mean, Mattel licenses their product. They are partners. Mattel’s success would be WWE’s success. Then again, the potential profits for this project are drops in an ocean compared to the amount of money WWE is managing daily between wrestler salaries, PPV income, TV ad revenue, etc. This is probably very low on their priority list. I mean imagine if they put a 30 second spot for the kickstarter during Raw. They would make way more money allocating that spot for some movie trailer or something. Now of course, Mattel could pay for a TV spot… but that was part of the marketing budget that Steve said they cut for the Macho Man pack. 🤷♂️ I love you.
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Post by kgchampion on Aug 8, 2021 22:01:26 GMT -5
The only reason I knew about it was because of this forum. The only reason I knew about Hasbro’s crowdfunding endeavors was from it being mentioned in threads about this one.
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Post by KPnDC on Aug 8, 2021 22:05:47 GMT -5
Can WWE, Mattel's partner not mention this on their social media? Or is Mattel saving that for the final week? I try not to question people running billion dollar corporations but something seems off here. WWE announced on Smackdown their Youtube channel crossed 80M subs. Or is Mattel's thinking, we went to the hardcore fanbase, MWFP, FullyPossable and Notsam. If those hardcore fanbases couldn't get it to 8k, then what's the point? I definitely find it odd that WWE is not pushing this on their YouTube or announcing it on their shows. I mean, Mattel licenses their product. They are partners. Mattel’s success would be WWE’s success. Then again, the potential profits for this project are drops in an ocean compared to the amount of money WWE is managing daily between wrestler salaries, PPV income, TV ad revenue, etc. This is probably very low on their priority list. I mean imagine if they put a 30 second spot for the kickstarter during Raw. They would make way more money allocating that spot for some movie trailer or something. Now of course, Mattel could pay for a TV spot… but that was part of the marketing budget that Steve said they cut for the Macho Man pack. 🤷♂️ I love you. When he mentioned that my heart sank a bit. I have limited knowledge of how marketing works, but I do know this stuff is planned out weeks & months in advance, especially around tentpole events like SummerSlam. We've seen Mattel sponsor events in the past and I wonder if they had an ad placement for a weeks worth of TV. Anyway, I'm still hopeful and confident. Personally my friends and I are on the hook for about 11 of these sets. Mattel gave us until 8/13 and we have no desire or real incentive to purchase before then. We've seen some staunch holdouts recently flip in this very thread, so I'm confident this'll will get backed. Everyone stay positive!
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