mrassbillygunn
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WF 10+ Year Member
Joined on: Jul 23, 2011 19:35:48 GMT -5
Posts: 4,293
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Aug 1, 2021 5:47:31 GMT -5
I was never a fan of his. Always thought he was overrated.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 1, 2021 7:32:42 GMT -5
I remember it was rumored he’d face Lesnar at WM 32. Instead he has no match and gets embarrassed by the Rock. One of the many times they buried him. They even started the build for it - the Family took Brock out of the Rumble, and I was invested right from the off. I reckon Bray and Brock could've had an interesting feud/match. You can tell plans were changed, because Brock was visibly pissed about working with Ambrose at WM32. That might have been down to having to put up with Ambrose’s mumbly requests to use chainsaws on him. “So uh like, have you ever watched like a CZW tournament or like y’know whatever?” Brock chucking three hosses around in the Mania setting would’ve been fun.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 1, 2021 7:36:13 GMT -5
The Firefly Fun House and Fiend were perfect for wrestling with no crowds with those Fun House skits and cinematic matches, but the WWE couldnt even do that right.
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Post by JTG on Aug 1, 2021 8:33:13 GMT -5
This one was shocking and a head scratcher. I truly thought they made a legitimate attraction with The Fiend but unfortunately I feel like they booked themselves into a corning with the character. It would have been nice to see Bray/The Fiend back in front of a live crowd, so it's too bad that's no longer in the cards for WWE.
Like many of the other high profile releases as of late I have no doubt he'll find a new opportunity to showcase his creative prowess.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 1, 2021 8:38:45 GMT -5
I remember it was rumored he’d face Lesnar at WM 32. Instead he has no match and gets embarrassed by the Rock. One of the many times they buried him. They even started the build for it - the Family took Brock out of the Rumble, and I was invested right from the off. I reckon Bray and Brock could've had an interesting feud/match. You can tell plans were changed, because Brock was visibly pissed about working with Ambrose at WM32. Brock didn’t want to work with anyone during that time for fear of an injury before his UFC return. It didn’t matter who we was working with, he wasn’t going to put an effort into any matchup. The WWE should have just ran with Ambrose/Wyatt for that show and have Cena and Rock beat up Brock since that was Brocks attitude.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Aug 1, 2021 9:13:53 GMT -5
"The Ghoul" suddenly shows up in the Impact Zone. But everyone realizes it's just Bo Dallas.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Aug 1, 2021 10:12:32 GMT -5
They even started the build for it - the Family took Brock out of the Rumble, and I was invested right from the off. I reckon Bray and Brock could've had an interesting feud/match. You can tell plans were changed, because Brock was visibly pissed about working with Ambrose at WM32. Brock didn’t want to work with anyone during that time for fear of an injury before his UFC return. It didn’t matter who we was working with, he wasn’t going to put an effort into any matchup. The WWE should have just ran with Ambrose/Wyatt for that show and have Cena and Rock beat up Brock since that was Brocks attitude. They also pivoted to Ambrose because he was hot and the people popped like crazy for the Ambrose/Brock interactions in that triple threat the month before. People complain now but at the time it def felt like the right decision.
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Post by rkmo: A Lack of Fortitude on Aug 1, 2021 10:25:10 GMT -5
The Firefly Fun House and Fiend were perfect for wrestling with no crowds with those Fun House skits and cinematic matches, but the WWE couldnt even do that right. I've said it before, but Wyatt's time to be the most effective champion was during the opening stages of the lockdown, when shows were taped and edited. They could have gotten away with doing so much more without worrying about a live audience. How great was the final faceoff between Cena and Fiend, with that cut to Bray standing right behind John? Instead, they took the belt off him just before it began in Saudi Arabia and essentially gave it back right after starting all live shows again.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Aug 1, 2021 10:28:49 GMT -5
Apparently he was making around a mil and a half, which considering he was bringing in over seven figures on merch doesn’t make any sense. Hopefully he flourishes elsewhere. There has to be more to the story.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 1, 2021 10:35:04 GMT -5
Brock didn’t want to work with anyone during that time for fear of an injury before his UFC return. It didn’t matter who we was working with, he wasn’t going to put an effort into any matchup. The WWE should have just ran with Ambrose/Wyatt for that show and have Cena and Rock beat up Brock since that was Brocks attitude. They also pivoted to Ambrose because he was hot and the people popped like crazy for the Ambrose/Brock interactions in that triple threat the month before. People complain now but at the time it def felt like the right decision. 100% agreed. I’m the biggest Mox/Ambrose mark around, but there’s no denying from 2015 - mid-2016 that he was the most over performer. With all the injuries the roster was suffering at the time, and with the Roman backlash, it made sense to pit Ambrose against Brock. The pop he got when he made it to the final two in the Rumble that year was crazy. And Brock/Ambrose was easily the most anticipated match going into that show. Sad thing is Brock just didn’t care about putting any effort with his UFC return around the corner. Whether he faced Ambrose or Bray, the match would have been crap as Brock just wanted to get in and out unscathed.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 1, 2021 11:39:03 GMT -5
Orton\Fiend was one of, if not THE, worst big match payoffs in modern history. Something must’ve been up even back then. The Fiend was not my favorite gimmick, and he was booked pretty poorly, but it was still an awesome idea. Wyatt will be a tremendous asset wherever he goes. I’m not in favor of EVERYONE going to AEW, but Wyatt is absolutely a guy I’d try to get. He’s like Jake in that he knows his characters and always comes up with ideas. He’s a great mind to have on the team. You can say WWE made a huge blunder here (maybe they did, if for no other reason than they could’ve used his creativity), but if they weren’t going to use him effectively I’d rather they cut him loose than keep him under contract to spite AEW.
As for Vince’s smugness on the call, if AEW continues as it is and WWE continues to make these spastic HR moves Vince might well live to eat those words within the next 10 years or so.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 1, 2021 11:39:20 GMT -5
Orton\Fiend was one of, if not THE, worst big match payoffs in modern history. Something must’ve been up even back then. The Fiend was not my favorite gimmick, and he was booked pretty poorly, but it was still an awesome idea. Wyatt will be a tremendous asset wherever he goes. I’m not in favor of EVERYONE going to AEW, but Wyatt is absolutely a guy I’d try to get. He’s like Jake in that he knows his characters and always comes up with ideas. He’s a great mind to have on the team. You can say WWE made a huge blunder here (maybe they did, if for no other reason than they could’ve used his creativity), but if they weren’t going to use him effectively I’d rather they cut him loose than keep him under contract to spite WWE.
As for Vince’s smugness on the call, if AEW continues as it is and WWE continues to make these spastic HR moves Vince might well live to eat those words within the next 10 years or so.
Edit: why can’t I delete this duplicate post? The option just isn’t coming up on my phone. Mods, this can be deleted.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Aug 1, 2021 11:40:30 GMT -5
You know what I hated? The fact that WWE didn’t bother to give us a double personality scene with both the Fiend and Bray at the same time. It would of been the perfect time to do it considering that there were no live crowds and it’s all camera editing at the end of the day.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Aug 1, 2021 11:54:02 GMT -5
I don’t want a supernatural character on my favorite wrestling show. That 🐴💩 can stay in sports entertainment. The idea of Rotunda taking his pedo murder clown schtick into AEW is irritating. The guy has talent in coming up with gimmicks, but the execution never lands. His Cape Fear gimmick with the og Bray Wyatt run had legs, but I don’t think he’s anything special in the ring. Time will tell, but I see him back in Connecticut for less money. AEW is sports entertainment too ya weirdo its still real to him dammit
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Post by rkmo: A Lack of Fortitude on Aug 1, 2021 11:58:06 GMT -5
Rotunda has teased his next grand idea, and has received vocal support from Code Orange via Twitter if need be.
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Post by Valbroski on Aug 1, 2021 11:58:52 GMT -5
You know, I really wish they would have brought Bo Dallas in for the Bo-Lieve gimmick in the Firefly Funhouse. Lot of missed opportunities in having those two do an angle together.
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Thunder Chunky
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Joined on: Aug 1, 2010 21:57:30 GMT -5
Posts: 4,520
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Aug 1, 2021 12:41:35 GMT -5
I don’t want a supernatural character on my favorite wrestling show. That 🐴💩 can stay in sports entertainment. The idea of Rotunda taking his pedo murder clown schtick into AEW is irritating. The guy has talent in coming up with gimmicks, but the execution never lands. His Cape Fear gimmick with the og Bray Wyatt run had legs, but I don’t think he’s anything special in the ring. Time will tell, but I see him back in Connecticut for less money. AEW is sports entertainment too ya weirdo I'm just surprised he didn't refer to WWE as the Connecticut fed.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Aug 1, 2021 14:53:55 GMT -5
I can’t say I wouldn’t mark out for Brodys best friend Wyatt picking up the reigns of the Dark Order Let Page run with it for 90 days, have the Dark Order turn on Page in favor of one of Brody’s chosen in Wyatt. Gives Page another obstacle. I don’t want a supernatural character on my favorite wrestling show. That 🐴💩 can stay in sports entertainment. The idea of Rotunda taking his pedo murder clown schtick into AEW is irritating. The guy has talent in coming up with gimmicks, but the execution never lands. His Cape Fear gimmick with the og Bray Wyatt run had legs, but I don’t think he’s anything special in the ring. Time will tell, but I see him back in Connecticut for less money. HA, what a mark.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 1, 2021 15:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by kgchampion on Aug 1, 2021 15:19:06 GMT -5
WWE 2k22 is going to be a terrible game with a bunch of its talent roster cut. It won’t matter how good the gameplay will be when most of the people I want to play as aren’t going to be in the game.
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