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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 3, 2021 18:28:31 GMT -5
I know that the gimmick is aimed towards kids, but the boos she's receiving from the audience are totally unfair.
For months she wasn't used so instead of sitting in catering she stepped forward, created herself a character to get noticed and it worked. She deserves to be applauded not booed.
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Post by McBlake on Sept 3, 2021 18:45:41 GMT -5
Agreed, but much like most, her character has been destroyed by terrible booking. Her Momey in the Bank was wasted/rushed, the big win against Charlotte came on a random episode of Raw which was ultimately forgotten and she cuts the exact same promo every week. Now she's randomly partners with Rhea?
It could have been cool, but Vince lost interest and as much as I don't agree with it, I can see why she gets some boo's.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 3, 2021 18:57:54 GMT -5
Sorry but Ill have to disagree. Creating your own gimmick & then having it forced upon the crowd to the point where they boo you out of the building isnt a good thing on her or WWEs part. Her Sanity gimmick was pretty good. Once all of them were gone she was pretty much done for. The only reason she didnt get wrapped up in any of the previous releases is because Bliss was carrying her in a tag team. Id be very surprised if shes still on the roster this time next year if even by Mania.
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Post by CymruX2 on Sept 3, 2021 19:01:35 GMT -5
People aren't Booing her they're booing the booking. There's no need for her to be a super hero, they should have pulled the trigger when she was the loose cannon from sanity.
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 3, 2021 19:04:09 GMT -5
People aren’t booing her, they’re booing the crappy product. I was a huge fan of Nikki during her Sanity days, even the Alexa Bliss “Be My Friend” storyline was ok. This Nikki ASH stuff is pure garbage and its a shame because the individual is trying her best to make lemonade out of lemons but its a losing battle.
Basically her current run consisted of Vince day dreaming up this stupid gimmick, giving Nikki MITB as a last minute thank you for actually doing it (and also because who else would’ve won MITB?), gave her a title run to say “hey that was my idea, look how much its over!” (And also to give Charlotte her 21st title reign), and then when the cobwebs upstairs on old Vinny Mac came down for a literal second from the years of steroid abuse, he came to the realization too that it was a dumb gimmick from the get go and one that has no credibility when you put her next to gals like Ripley and Flair…. Or Nia…. Or Asuka…. Or Shayna…. you get the point.
Nikki deserves better.
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Post by CM Tusk on Sept 3, 2021 19:10:36 GMT -5
Wrestling fans and respect don’t really go hand in hand when it comes to women’s wrestling half the time. Add in something primarily aimed towards kids and the neckbeards act like it’s ruining everything.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 3, 2021 19:14:16 GMT -5
People aren’t booing her, they’re booing the crappy product. I was a huge fan of Nikki during her Sanity days, even the Alexa Bliss “Be My Friend” storyline was ok. This Nikki ASH stuff is pure garbage and its a shame because the individual is trying her best to make lemonade out of lemons but its a losing battle. Basically her current run consisted of Vince day dreaming up this stupid gimmick, giving Nikki MITB as a last minute thank you for actually doing it (and also because who else would’ve won MITB?), gave her a title run to say “hey that was my idea, look how much its over!” (And also to give Charlotte her 21st title reign), and then when the cobwebs upstairs on old Vinny Mac came down for a literal second from the years of steroid abuse, he came to the realization too that it was a dumb gimmick from the get go and one that has no credibility when you put her next to gals like Ripley and Flair…. Or Nia…. Or Asuka…. Or Shayna…. you get the point. Nikki deserves better. It was actually Nikki who created the gimmick. It's also a character that appeals to kids. They never cared about Bliss's sidekick, but if they see a superhero character dressed in bright colours they are interested. You currently have Vikings, a dinosaur, Orange Cassidy and a possessed doll so what's wrong with a Superhero?
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 3, 2021 19:20:02 GMT -5
Sorry but Ill have to disagree. Creating your own gimmick & then having it forced upon the crowd to the point where they boo you out of the building isnt a good thing on her or WWEs part. Her Sanity gimmick was pretty good. Once all of them were gone she was pretty much done for. The only reason she didnt get wrapped up in any of the previous releases is because Bliss was carrying her in a tag team. Id be very surprised if shes still on the roster this time next year if even by Mania. I'm pretty sure that it wasn't her plan to take over the division lol. She was stuck in the locker with no TV time so created a stand out character to get noticed. It was also smart because the character will be a merch machine. It appeals to kids and they will buy Nikki Ash merchandise and action figures. I respect her for not backing down and fighting to secure a spot on the show.
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 3, 2021 19:27:02 GMT -5
People aren’t booing her, they’re booing the crappy product. I was a huge fan of Nikki during her Sanity days, even the Alexa Bliss “Be My Friend” storyline was ok. This Nikki ASH stuff is pure garbage and its a shame because the individual is trying her best to make lemonade out of lemons but its a losing battle. Basically her current run consisted of Vince day dreaming up this stupid gimmick, giving Nikki MITB as a last minute thank you for actually doing it (and also because who else would’ve won MITB?), gave her a title run to say “hey that was my idea, look how much its over!” (And also to give Charlotte her 21st title reign), and then when the cobwebs upstairs on old Vinny Mac came down for a literal second from the years of steroid abuse, he came to the realization too that it was a dumb gimmick from the get go and one that has no credibility when you put her next to gals like Ripley and Flair…. Or Nia…. Or Asuka…. Or Shayna…. you get the point. Nikki deserves better. It was actually Nikki who created the gimmick. That’s even worse. At least when I thought it was a gimmick forced on her I could feel bad. On a roster with beasts like the aforementioned Women in the division where does this gimmick fit in? Honestly her being crazy and scrappy would have fit in better. Hey, A+ for trying something to get noticed, and to be fair it worked for a very short time. But honestly it wont be long before she’s back off TV or released IMO with this gimmick. It has a shelf life and she’s already been exposed as not in the same league as the other top women.
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Post by Eric on Sept 3, 2021 21:02:22 GMT -5
I'm not a fan. I wouldn't disrespect her, but I dislike any form of "the power of positivity" in anything. Hopefully it inspires the kids, but it's too lame for me. And as someone mentioned, she does the same promo every week. She didn't deserve to lose to Flair again, but The Little Engine That Could doesn't work for me here.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 4, 2021 0:42:03 GMT -5
I respect her for coming up with something for herself and trying to stand out from the herd. But I knew the second she appeared on TV in that attire that Nikki was in for a rough ride. There wasn't an appetite for it, especially with the more boisterous sections of the audience. Okay, she wanted to be an inspirational figure. Why go all out and seem like you can actually become a superhero?
And that's not getting into Creative. If Charlotte had been more dominant (lulz) and more of a bully, then Nikki defeated her clean, I felt that would have been best. But like I figured, the swap was hotshotted and she was made to look inferior throughout.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 4, 2021 0:53:33 GMT -5
Nikki A.S.H. is a female version of Eugene. Take that for what you will.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 4, 2021 10:28:15 GMT -5
Nikki A.S.H. is a female version of Eugene. Take that for what you will. Early NXT Bayley was more of a female Eugene. Nikki Cross is more of a Eugene/Mighty Molly cross.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Sept 4, 2021 11:44:56 GMT -5
I’m trying to understand the Eugene comparison? There’s a big difference between the Hurricane and a guy with special needs
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Sept 4, 2021 12:27:03 GMT -5
Dammit, do a heel turn already.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 4, 2021 12:45:38 GMT -5
Dammit, do a heel turn already. Her name can then be "Nikki, Always Stomping Hoes"
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 4, 2021 14:36:37 GMT -5
I’m trying to understand the Eugene comparison? There’s a big difference between the Hurricane and a guy with special needs Eugene wasn’t just a guy with special needs. He was always positive, excitable and motivational. His whole thing was overcoming your disadvantages and winning thanks to a pure heart and self-belief.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 4, 2021 14:41:57 GMT -5
I’m trying to understand the Eugene comparison? There’s a big difference between the Hurricane and a guy with special needs Eugene wasn’t just a guy with special needs. He was always positive, excitable and motivational. His whole thing was overcoming your disadvantages and winning thanks to a pure heart and self-belief. Sounds like John Cena too, to be frank
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 4, 2021 18:02:51 GMT -5
Eugene wasn’t just a guy with special needs. He was always positive, excitable and motivational. His whole thing was overcoming your disadvantages and winning thanks to a pure heart and self-belief. Sounds like John Cena too, to be frank It’s basically a twist on the Hogan/Cena archetype, their values but without their superpowers.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 4, 2021 18:53:07 GMT -5
little more gold in her attire and shes going to look like one of the Conquistadors!
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