JP
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Post by JP on Nov 2, 2021 16:00:14 GMT -5
Truthfully? Wrestling has passed me by. I occasionally watch the current product, but very sparingly and only when someone says "Oh man, you should check out this show etc."
But overall, current wrestling isn't made for me. I'm happy to fire up anything from 2007 and earlier, and have a little nostalgia. I don't watch things I don't enjoy - life's too short!
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Post by East Coast on Nov 2, 2021 19:07:33 GMT -5
AEW does a lot of things wrong. But some of the things they do correctly is schiavone on commentary. The look of the entrance stage. The camera staying still and not moving around. Justin Roberts as announcer.
RAW would be a lot better with a more simple production and some better ppl with mics. They have a million bland nameless faceless interviewer type. Byron is not even needed on commentary.
And they should cut RAW down to 2 hrs. All that would alleviate like half of the problems
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Nov 3, 2021 3:06:22 GMT -5
AEW does a lot of things wrong. But some of the things they do correctly is schiavone on commentary. The look of the entrance stage. The camera staying still and not moving around. Justin Roberts as announcer. RAW would be a lot better with a more simple production and some better ppl with mics. They have a million bland nameless faceless interviewer type. Byron is not even needed on commentary. And they should cut RAW down to 2 hrs. All that would alleviate like half of the problems Raw will never be 2 hours cause the USA Network paid for the extra hour back in 2012, Vince McMahon didn't like that idea but couldn't say anything cause of their contract. 3 Hours = more money.
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Post by mattoriginal on Nov 3, 2021 4:04:01 GMT -5
All I ever see here is "this show sucks"/ "how do you watch this?" / "I fell asleep during ____ (insert match)" So I ask.....what is your solution? There's hardly any constructive criticism with bitching anymore, it's all: This sucks, 50/50 booking, Vince is old and out of touch, and so on. How about storyboards? How about planning stories from start to finish and then actually following through. You know, like a TV show does. How about hire a cinematographer that can shoot the segments and make them look decent, and not give someone vertigo from five seconds of chair shots? How about not kneecapping people because they get over, when you don't want them to be? How about if you hire all these writers, let them write instead of ripping up formats minutes before going live? Just a couple thoughts.
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cage
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Post by cage on Nov 3, 2021 5:37:25 GMT -5
Yeah and it was put to bed 2 months ago after 3 pages of mindless bickering and a condescending OP. Doesn’t seem like you helped much.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Nov 3, 2021 8:04:37 GMT -5
All I ever see here is "this show sucks"/ "how do you watch this?" / "I fell asleep during ____ (insert match)" So I ask.....what is your solution? There's hardly any constructive criticism with bitching anymore, it's all: This sucks, 50/50 booking, Vince is old and out of touch, and so on. How about storyboards? How about planning stories from start to finish and then actually following through. You know, like a TV show does. How about hire a cinematographer that can shoot the segments and make them look decent, and not give someone vertigo from five seconds of chair shots? How about not kneecapping people because they get over, when you don't want them to be? How about if you hire all these writers, let them write instead of ripping up formats minutes before going live? Just a couple thoughts. None of that matters when the guy calling the shots is a control freak that changes his mind like incontinent victims change their underwear
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 10:11:35 GMT -5
Cut back to two hours for raw, fire all of the creative team, and make the shows feel like they matter. Everything just happens now with little to no explanation
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cage
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Post by cage on Nov 3, 2021 17:33:42 GMT -5
The idea to make wins and losses matter is one that has merit, but grudge matches are a thing too. Sometimes it makes sense to just have people fight each other, after all that is what they do for a living. I like what AEW does with showing the wins and losses of their roster whenever they appear and I'd support WWE(F) doing that too, but at this point some peoples' numbers would be like over 1,000 so it doesn't feel like it has a realistic shot at happening.
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Post by Alexarules16 on Nov 4, 2021 8:55:27 GMT -5
Better storytelling for one thing, have better written babyfaces, etc.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 6, 2021 18:46:35 GMT -5
Vince should listen to the fans. However, the stumbling block there is distinguishing who the WWE fans are and what they want. Internet people with anti-WWE usernames who wish death on him and his company certainly aren’t fans. He certainly shouldn’t be listening to them.
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Post by CM Tusk on Nov 6, 2021 18:47:28 GMT -5
More mustaches
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oneofakind1870
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Post by oneofakind1870 on Nov 17, 2021 21:05:00 GMT -5
lol this is very funny I know I am one of those people even though I end up watching the entire show anyways
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cage
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Post by cage on Nov 18, 2021 13:51:50 GMT -5
There's really not a problem outside of people blowing things out of proportion.
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Nov 18, 2021 13:58:07 GMT -5
Truthfully? Wrestling has passed me by. I occasionally watch the current product, but very sparingly and only when someone says "Oh man, you should check out this show etc." But overall, current wrestling isn't made for me. I'm happy to fire up anything from 2007 and earlier, and have a little nostalgia. I don't watch things I don't enjoy - life's too short! this, i have almost completely lost interest in modern wrestling. This is the least ive cared for wrestling ever. Ill watch a min or two of clips and get bored. The fanboy cringe cult with AEW makes me want to get even further away from it.
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fishhook36
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Post by fishhook36 on Nov 18, 2021 19:47:04 GMT -5
They don’t care about a good show all they care about is making money they are a bunch of soulless greedy money hungry pricks.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Nov 19, 2021 4:48:27 GMT -5
They don’t care about a good show all they care about is making money they are a bunch of soulless greedy money hungry pricks. It’s as if they’re a business…
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cage
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Post by cage on Nov 19, 2021 19:53:33 GMT -5
WWE has always had a large roster and a seemingly unlimited supply of talent to sign. There's so many local guys and people from Japan, etc. just looking for a way to get exposure, even if it's just for a week or a month. WWE will have absolutely no trouble getting employees, we can count on that.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 25, 2021 16:57:04 GMT -5
There are no solutions to fix WWE. It’s far too big to care about wrestling and they’ll make money in ways most people here wouldn’t even think of. There is no changing course on the WWE ship that would make them anymore money than they are making doing the stuff they do now. WWE is just a cardinal example of why it’s good to be successful, but the best thing that can ever happen to a company is for them to be in 2nd place. They’re making enough money to survive, but not enough to take the foot of the peddle.
MY solution is I’d love to see HHH & Shane go start another company once Vince sells WWE and it’s no longer a family business…even if it already hasn’t been for quite some time, I feel like once Vince relinquishes the reigns, I’d love to see HHH & Shane start up something.
I think they’d add a bit of that WWE magic that we DO like, but without the current restrictions they currently have. It would be really interesting to see what they can do. Let WWE become the Disney they always wanted to be, there’s no fixing it.
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cage
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Post by cage on Nov 25, 2021 18:47:20 GMT -5
I really don't see much difference between scripted and unscripted promos.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Nov 27, 2021 23:05:56 GMT -5
Stop depending on Legends to bring ratings. WWE needs to create main eventers with the current roster; heel and baby faces.
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