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Post by TWJT on Sept 19, 2021 1:28:29 GMT -5
Well, Dark Side’s Plane Ride from Hell documentary dropped.
Man, what a crazy situation. I’m a big supporter of second chances, even third, fourth, and hundredth chances; on the other hand, Flair was 53 when this happened and absolutely knew better. At the same time, it’s certainly possible that - moving forward from May 2002 to the present - he never repeated this type of behavior, and could have been drugged to bring about what happened in the first place. #MeToo and social progress on sexual violence have really brought about a lot of societal change, as they should. I’m torn, as far as a potential AEW run goes. Flair is one of my favorites ever, and one of the only folks left in the business who goes back to the early ‘70s; he was trained in the AWA literally when Richard Nixon was President.
What do you guys think should happen? What do you think will happen?
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Sept 19, 2021 9:09:28 GMT -5
Steer clear. Not because of what he did (which was wrong mind you), but because he's old, crippled, hunched over, can't do anything like before, and looks horrible. Retire, Ric. Go home. It's time to fade away. No one needs current you on TV, it brings nothing to the table.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 19, 2021 11:19:09 GMT -5
They'll sit on it for awhile and let it blow over (just as it has the past 20 years) and then let him manage Andrade as originally planned (as it seems)...If not with Ric saying Charlotte is never leaving WWE & AEW doesnt bring in Ric (which WWE would ultimately bring him back) then Id expect Andrade to go back to WWE in the next 3 years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 11:49:45 GMT -5
50/50.
For the most part, the timeline will be fine. Chavo is gone for 2-3 months I think? (Filming a movie or something). Can just delay flair with Andrade until then. By then, the newest scandal will have hit, and flair can probably appear again. I'd call that one 50%.
The other scenario, is that flair sticks. Either because a bunch of other stories get brought to light, or he just happens to be the one that sticks. Most of these things fade away, but a few randomly stick (currently Marty Scurll comes to mind) and there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which one sticks and which doesn't.
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Sept 19, 2021 12:11:51 GMT -5
I'm not gonna get into what the "right thing" to do is, or what AEW should or shouldn't do. I'll say personally, I wasn't hyped about Flair hopping on board before this. His passion is still there but it is more sad than anything else to see him go into his spiel anymore. And for a mouthpiece for Andrade, I mean, Andrade has better eloquence.
As it stands now, if Andrade is adamant about this, then Ric may still have a decent chance to show up eventually. Maybe in that scenario, DDP could share a word or two with him.
Those BTE segments with Omega and the Bucks sure aged well.
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Post by Angusdacat on Sept 19, 2021 13:13:22 GMT -5
AEW has every right to blacklist Flair, but they need to stop being hypocrites. AEW has been building a noticeable record of being fine with cancelling people they didn't like (Hogan) or weren't profitable (Jimmy Havoc) when they did wrong, all while keeping people who had allegations just as bad (Darby, Don Callis) because they are profitable. It happens a lot on this board as well; people have no issue blacklisting people they never liked to begin with, while defending tooth and nail the people they do like.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 19, 2021 16:36:52 GMT -5
Bring him in. Flair is still a big name and that alone may resonate with a lot of casual fans (which means more than appeasing a few online users that are “shocked” by a story that’s been well known for 20 years (doesn’t make it right, but it’s ridiculous to cancel him now when he should have been punished 20 years ago and wasn’t).
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Post by LA Times on Sept 19, 2021 17:25:31 GMT -5
I think they will still bring him in, just waiting for this scandal to subside. They brought in Nick Gage just because of a DSOTR episode that didnt paint him in a positive light.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Sept 19, 2021 18:07:08 GMT -5
I don’t know what to think really. Personally I’m good with Flair as a mouthpiece even now, but for AEW’s sake this has to blow over first. On the other hand, I’ve always taken issue with TK for publicly blackballing Hogan (who never expressed any interest in coming in). If they bring Flair in after this (which is far worse of an allegation which has been corroborated) then I’ll lose even more respect for TK. It sucks because I love AEW, but I have some cognitive dissonance about TK.
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Post by K5 on Sept 19, 2021 21:05:11 GMT -5
anyone who thinks they’ll still bring him in can buy the tropical resort I have in Nunavut
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Post by walkingturtles on Sept 20, 2021 10:17:38 GMT -5
Steer clear. Not because of what he did (which was wrong mind you), but because he's old, crippled, hunched over, can't do anything like before, and looks horrible. Retire, Ric. Go home. It's time to fade away. No one needs current you on TV, it brings nothing to the table. Came here to say this, but you said it so I’ll second it!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 13:25:18 GMT -5
They don’t need him
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 18:26:15 GMT -5
Well I think with that partnership with Martha, any notion of controversial hires anytime soon is out the window.
Not complaining, with or without this coming back into the light, flair really doesn't need to be there. Nothing more to offer at this point and they've gotten so many other good Legends already.
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Post by casanova on Sept 21, 2021 13:25:14 GMT -5
Was anybody really surprised? Flair always did things like this. The only thing that wonders me is that people start to act like they are shocked.
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Post by CM Tusk on Sept 21, 2021 13:36:37 GMT -5
Ric had a very long, very successful career. He won. He doesn’t need to be in the spotlight anymore and if the punishment for the shi**y things he didn’t in the past is no longer getting work, then I’d say he will be alright. Don’t bring him in. Wrestling doesn’t need him anymore.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Sept 22, 2021 10:32:18 GMT -5
I don’t know what to think really. Personally I’m good with Flair as a mouthpiece even now, but for AEW’s sake this has to blow over first. On the other hand, I’ve always taken issue with TK for publicly blackballing Hogan (who never expressed any interest in coming in). If they bring Flair in after this (which is far worse of an allegation which has been corroborated) then I’ll lose even more respect for TK. It sucks because I love AEW, but I have some cognitive dissonance about TK. didnt know he did that to Hogan. Good on TK. Him and flair are both useless today and Im VERY glad to see them getting what they deserve. Now I can sleep peacefully. |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Sept 22, 2021 17:14:56 GMT -5
I don’t know what to think really. Personally I’m good with Flair as a mouthpiece even now, but for AEW’s sake this has to blow over first. On the other hand, I’ve always taken issue with TK for publicly blackballing Hogan (who never expressed any interest in coming in). If they bring Flair in after this (which is far worse of an allegation which has been corroborated) then I’ll lose even more respect for TK. It sucks because I love AEW, but I have some cognitive dissonance about TK. didnt know he did that to Hogan. Good on TK. Him and flair are both useless today and Im VERY glad to see them getting what they deserve. Now I can sleep peacefully. Sweet dreams... |
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Post by toki on Sept 26, 2021 15:36:08 GMT -5
naitch was always my dad's favorite so I've been trained to enjoy him for as long as I've been alive.
that being said, he needs aew more than they need him at this point. it may have been a likely signing before the dark side episode, but even then, I wasn't big on the idea of it. the only way he would be somewhat useful would be as andrade's mouthpiece, and even then, that could have been a disaster depending on how wild ric was feeling on the night of tapings. I really like the way that aew uses legends as managers for the stars, but I'd much rather have chavo as the mouthpiece + a reformation of ingobernables than a ric/andrade pairing, despite the charlotte connection.
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Post by CymruX2 on Oct 4, 2021 13:14:54 GMT -5
I know they're all well past it but I would have gotten a kick out of seeing the four horsemen together again in a ring.
I think Tommy hit the nail on the head in saying the woman should have taken it to the end of line line instead of taking the payout. Flair shouldn't have done what he did I get that. But I think the chances of seeing Flair in AEW are scuppered for this year. They'll give some down time let everything settle then resume.
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Post by K5 on Oct 4, 2021 14:45:39 GMT -5
I know they're all well past it but I would have gotten a kick out of seeing the four horsemen together again in a ring. I think Tommy hit the nail on the head in saying the woman should have taken it to the end of line line instead of taking the payout. Flair shouldn't have done what he did I get that. But I think the chances of seeing Flair in AEW are scuppered for this year. They'll give some down time let everything settle then resume. I don’t think putting the expectations on the victim is the proper way to go. she’d already been violated privately, a lawsuit could’ve done it publicly. |
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