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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 19, 2021 23:13:56 GMT -5
Has it ever been discussed why Austin worked with Hall at WM18 over Nash? With the Hogan match not happening for Austin, Nash on paper was the bigger star between him and Hall. Former six time world champ, was the face of the WWF at one time, and was over huge just a few years prior in the nWo and Wolfpac.
I remember some rumors that Nash was dealing with some minor injuries at the time, but he was working TV right before and after the event, so that doesn’t seem to be it.
Other reports said Hall would be able to have a better match with Austin than Nash, and while the match wasn’t terrible, it also wasn’t anything really to write home about either. Plus with the terrible shape Hall was in, it’s crazy the WWE even trusted him with a matchup with Austin on the biggest show of the year.
Anyone ever discuss why Austin didn’t work with Nash, or why Nash didn’t have a match at all?
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 20, 2021 0:21:44 GMT -5
I think that the nWo as a whole had their Mania matches reworked for one reason or another. The goal clearly was Austin/Hogan but Austin wanted no part of it so that’s when it got switched to Rock/Hogan. Austin then got moved to Hall, where as Kevin Nash was supposed to then have a match with Kane (that’s why they were paired together in the Jakks 2 packs series) but since Mr Perfect wasn’t cutting it upon his return after the Rumble for his scheduled feud with Angle at Mania they called another audible and put Angle with Kane thus leaving Nash without anyone. And since like you said he was supposedly dealing with minor injuries, probably had his role limited without much attempt to get him a match against someone else like Big Show I’d assume.
That being said, none of them were in phenomenal shape upon return, if you go back and watch that 3 vs 2 handicap match on Raw the week before, it was an incredibly sloppy match for what should have been a historical moment in wrestling history.
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Post by jason88cubs on Sept 20, 2021 12:26:24 GMT -5
Having Nash vs Kane would be really lame. Glad that didnt happen
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 20, 2021 13:05:35 GMT -5
I remember hearing that Nash was the back up in case Hall fell off the wagon going into Wrestlemania that year.
So if Hall couldn't compete, Nash would have taken the match with Austin.
But seriously, Kevin Nash vs. Steven Austin would have made much more sense. Both former World Champions of their companies during the heights of the Monday Night War era. Both former WWF Champions at that. Nash was the supposed leader of the New Generation all through 1995, and Austin was the leader of the Attitude Era through 1998 - 1999.
So over all, I would have been in favour of Nash vs. Austin over Hall vs. Austin. Not because I am a Kevin Nash fan either, I like Scott Hall just as much, it's just Nash vs. Austin would have been more of a main event feel to it.
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Post by Warriah' on Sept 20, 2021 13:15:28 GMT -5
Having Nash vs Kane would be really lame. Glad that didnt happen Strong disagree. Nash vs Kane would have potentially given the NWO a win at that Mania (which they needed). Plus Nash has a hell of a match with Taker at 12 so it’d have felt neat to see that come kinda full circle But the biggest reason i disagree is it would have freed up Kurt Angle to have the match with Curt Hennig that was originally planned.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Sept 20, 2021 13:26:18 GMT -5
I think based on this 2 pack that Nash vs Kane was probably the original plan: The other 2 packs that came out were the matches that happened: I can't think of any other reason for that 2 pack with Kane and Nash other than scrapped plans....I don't believe Nash and Kane ever had an interaction in WWE? So why make the 2 pack?
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 20, 2021 16:30:16 GMT -5
I think based on this 2 pack that Nash vs Kane was probably the original plan: The other 2 packs that came out were the matches that happened: I can't think of any other reason for that 2 pack with Kane and Nash other than scrapped plans....I don't believe Nash and Kane ever had an interaction in WWE? So why make the 2 pack?
Hollywood Hogan, The Rock and Kane vs. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and X-Pac happened on a Smackdown I think it was in 2002 after Wrestlemania.
So Nash and Kane did have some interaction together.
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Post by The Brain on Sept 20, 2021 16:31:58 GMT -5
I think based on this 2 pack that Nash vs Kane was probably the original plan: The other 2 packs that came out were the matches that happened: I can't think of any other reason for that 2 pack with Kane and Nash other than scrapped plans....I don't believe Nash and Kane ever had an interaction in WWE? So why make the 2 pack?
Hollywood Hogan, The Rock and Kane vs. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and X-Pac happened on a Smackdown I think it was in 2002 after Wrestlemania.
So Nash and Kane did have some interaction together.
In Philly! Cant forget this gem...
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 20, 2021 20:35:41 GMT -5
Nash vs Austin IMO would've been a mega match. Nash was one of the biggest stars of The Monday Night Wars so seeing him and Austin collide would have been a big money match.
No disrespect to Hall was Nash was a way bigger star.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 20, 2021 22:40:20 GMT -5
Having Nash vs Kane would be really lame. Glad that didnt happen Strong disagree. Nash vs Kane would have potentially given the NWO a win at that Mania (which they needed). Plus Nash has a hell of a match with Taker at 12 so it’d have felt neat to see that come kinda full circle But the biggest reason i disagree is it would have freed up Kurt Angle to have the match with Curt Hennig that was originally planned. Agreed that Nash and Kane could have pulled off a decent hoss fight with Nash going over and Kane loosing nothing. I know they didn’t know the nWo would be signing with them when Taker turned heel at the end of 2001, but had they held off on the heel turn we could have gotten the Bros of Destruction vs the Outsiders, which is a big matchup IMO. Kurt gets Mr. Perfect, and Austin and Flair could fight (which to me is still a huge matchup for the time).
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Sept 21, 2021 9:34:33 GMT -5
This happens in Smackdown Shut Your Mouth season mode since Scott Hall isn't in the game & the wrestler the player picks wrestles Hogan. I always felt bad for the virtual Austin in that story as he was the complete afterthought.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 21, 2021 10:02:50 GMT -5
This happens in Smackdown Shut Your Mouth season mode since Scott Hall isn't in the game & the wrestler the player picks wrestles Hogan. I always felt bad for the virtual Austin in that story as he was the complete afterthought. Even in videos games Austin was being phased out in 2002 lol
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Post by The Brain on Sept 21, 2021 16:21:20 GMT -5
Looking back I wish we got Nash and Kane at this Mania. Finally a showdown between the 2 Big Daddy Cools!
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 22, 2021 0:42:28 GMT -5
Looking back I wish we got Nash and Kane at this Mania. Finally a showdown between the 2 Big Daddy Cools!
Being a Big Daddy Cool fan, I pick Big Daddy Cool to get the win! But what Big Daddy Cool am I talking about?? It doesn't matter, because either way, I win! Both are Big Daddy Cool!
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 9, 2021 23:14:04 GMT -5
Looking back I wish we got Nash and Kane at this Mania. Finally a showdown between the 2 Big Daddy Cools! I never thought of that haha, damn, now I wish we got that! I kinda understand Hall being unreliable at the time but if that was the case than why not have Hall in Nash’s role, which better suits him, running interference at ringside & have Nash vs Austin? I enjoyed Hall/Austin, so really no complaints, but it is weird how Nash was one of the biggest stars in wrestling at the time & he was just ringside for the biggest show of the year. I would have preferred the belt be taken off Jericho at No Way Out & have Nash vs HHH at Mania for the title. Then you have all 3 members of the nWo attempting to take out the 3 biggest stars in the WWF on the same show.
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Post by jason88cubs on Aug 25, 2022 12:06:24 GMT -5
Having Nash vs Kane would be really lame. Glad that didnt happen Strong disagree. Nash vs Kane would have potentially given the NWO a win at that Mania (which they needed). Plus Nash has a hell of a match with Taker at 12 so it’d have felt neat to see that come kinda full circle But the biggest reason i disagree is it would have freed up Kurt Angle to have the match with Curt Hennig that was originally planned. Late reply but my issue is, what would be the reason for them fighting? Was it going to be a random match or with a storyline
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Aug 25, 2022 17:28:26 GMT -5
I believe Nash was a backup plan in case Hall didnt show or something like that.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Aug 29, 2022 16:23:26 GMT -5
Strong disagree. Nash vs Kane would have potentially given the NWO a win at that Mania (which they needed). Plus Nash has a hell of a match with Taker at 12 so it’d have felt neat to see that come kinda full circle But the biggest reason i disagree is it would have freed up Kurt Angle to have the match with Curt Hennig that was originally planned. Late reply but my issue is, what would be the reason for them fighting? Was it going to be a random match or with a storyline Imagine if they did the Nash-Kane feud and Nash decides to drop little shoot pieces about Fake Diesel. Boy howdy. Loser of the match has to be Diesel again.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Aug 29, 2022 16:37:12 GMT -5
Strong disagree. Nash vs Kane would have potentially given the NWO a win at that Mania (which they needed). Plus Nash has a hell of a match with Taker at 12 so it’d have felt neat to see that come kinda full circle But the biggest reason i disagree is it would have freed up Kurt Angle to have the match with Curt Hennig that was originally planned. Late reply but my issue is, what would be the reason for them fighting? Was it going to be a random match or with a storyline What was the reason for Angle and Kane fighting?
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 1, 2022 16:21:27 GMT -5
Nash vs Austin would have been much better, we could have also got Hall vs another guy... maybe Big Show.
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