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Post by The Madness on Oct 7, 2021 23:48:09 GMT -5
They're heading in that direction, but they didn't start out that way. UE Savage, Kane, Taker could be, but UE Warrior, HBK, and HHH weren't. Hogan depends on if you consider Hulk or Hollywood his definitive gimmick. I think the differing opinions on this topic really help narrow it down, as they could be for some but not for others. Personally the macho is one I wish was done in an earlier ring attire, even re doing the defining moments one with true effects and the cape and title. But if it wasn’t done, we probably wouldn’t have gotten the awesome early buy bonus on the arena Yeah, having started watching regularly in 1991,that Savage is as definitive as it gets for me, but I can absolutely understand others wanting an earlier version. Personally, I hope we get several of him to schoose from in the UE line.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Oct 8, 2021 0:18:46 GMT -5
Depends. I think some are excellent, while some just don’t mesh in well and look odd. I still hate the torso on UE Shawn, the abdomen just looks weird. Hogan is my favorite thus far and it’s an example of what the price point entails. Others not so much imo. I just hope they don’t start throwing in everyone in as an Ultimate. It starts taking away from that premium vibe.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Oct 8, 2021 0:26:50 GMT -5
All quality control issues aside (so ignoring painted parts and torso/joint choices) I'm right there with the people who say that very few people even have a definitive look.
Ronda is the only Ronda figure I will ever need. She only really had one look and that figure encompassed everything for her. So as long as she doesn't come back then, yes. That is THEE Ronda Rousey figure.
Stone Cold is another one that the UE is pretty close to the only one I think I'll ever need. Sure it would be nice to have some variations of special moments but as far as wrestling attire goes I see no need for another figure outside of the UE Stone Cold. I did give him a second knee brace but that's about all I felt necessary. Outside of finding him a smoking skull belt and a pair of two finger salute hands? I never need another wrestling attire Stone Cold, no.
But there aren't a lot of other people who even have that as an option.
the first UE Rock can be considered definitive if you add a pair of track pants to make it 2/1. But there's something to be said for his post-AE career and in my mind the second UE figure helps fill that gap. But I still feel there's more ground to cover with him and, personally, that new vested basic coming out is a look that I have very much wanted in my collection. Naturally it's missing the belt buckle but if we could get an elite version of that figure (not even a UE) it would fill in another gap for "Iconic Rock Looks" that I want.
Finn, as stated, is downright impossible to have one definitive figure of due to his dual character. It'd be like saying you've made the definitive Mr. Hyde figure and everyone rightfully pointing out that you ignored Dr. Jekyll. And still, I don't even consider the UE to be the definitive Demon King figure. The Demon King had too many unique variations for that (in my eyes). My favorite Demon King is Elite 46 but, again, it's hard to argue that's definitive. Anyway not the point.
Onto figures like Triple H. We already know we are getting another Triple H, and while that isn't one that I would have picked, it means there's a possibility for beyond that. In my mind, the first HHH UE is "THEE" figure of "The Game", yes. But many people would argue that Evolution HHH or DX HHH are also too important to ignore. Same with Kane. This new UE is (QC Aside) The Definitive DEBUT Kane. We probably aren't getting a better debut Kane than this. But Kane has had so dang many looks that you could make four more UE Kanes and still never have a Definitive one.
Nakamura never should have been in this line and that figure is nothing like what I would consider a definitive look for him.
We still haven't seen the finalized images of the upcoming Alexa but I can almost promise you that unless they find some way to make it a 3-in-1 figure, it won't even scratch the surface for her.
I'm not even getting into the Undertaker because we'll be here all day.
The point is that saying anything is "definitive" is subjective at best and terribly divisive at worst. Most superstars who have the star power to warrant a UE figure have too dang many looks to have any one be "Definitive". Ronda is the exception here, not the rule. I highly suspect we will never get another one in this line like that. Too few wrestlers have that type of careers where they win rookie of the year and then are gone almost immediately. Outside of maybe Brock Lesner I don't see another figure in this line that anyone could 100% point at as being the definitive all-time figure. And even with Brock he just debuted a new look so that might be out the window.
So yeah. I get that the point of this line was to make the definitive figures, but it doesn't work like that for the types of people who have earned their spots in this line and even people who haven't like Nakamura, sorry. Still no.
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