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Post by alanpartridge on Oct 29, 2021 9:01:27 GMT -5
I was thinking about how cool the Money in the Bank used to be at Wrestlemania. How if used correctly it could elevate a wrestler from mid card to main event eg Edge and CM Punk. I know it kind of failed with Mr Kennedy as his issues with Orton kind of ruined his WWE career. Also failed with Swagger as no one cared lol. In comparison to Money in the bank PPV which sucks. I know it worked with Big E this year. Otis last year was a joke. My issue with Money in the Bank as a PPV is it is a bit lame and should be just a match at Mania. The same point goes for Elimination Chamber that should be just a match at Fast Lane. I know that the attitude era PPV names like Judgement Day and Armageddon wouldn't work now but it isn't that hard to think of a PPV name. From the top of my head WWE Fight Night. Better that Great Balls of Fire. I just think more thought should be put into the actual product.
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Post by Scott! on Oct 29, 2021 9:35:08 GMT -5
I wish they'd get rid of the Hell in a Cell, TLC and Elimination Chamber PPV's full stop. There was a time when these matches meant something for a feud ending match or for a big title match, but having like 3 of them on one PPV is overkill.
Money in the Bank is ok in my book for its own PPV, but I think it meant more at Wrestlemania. It was the one match I looked forward to the most at 'Mania every year, because it felt like a match where a mid carder would get the start of a big push.
I'd like to see it back at Wrestlemania, and drop the PPV's and get back to where the big gimmick matches mean something.
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johnnyhanson21
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Oct 29, 2021 19:16:57 GMT -5
Agreed with cutting out the gimmick PPVs as it kills the actual gimmick matches and makes them feel less special.You have to have a real storyline and feud to build to a gimmick match i.e. the right way they did Edge/Rollins.
Still feel that MITB should have stayed as a Wrestlemania only match,and would like to see it return as such with the actual PPV being scrapped.Also would cut it back down to a 6 person match as well.Doesn't work as well with 7,8,10 or even when they had 4 or 5 years ago.
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Post by LK3 on Oct 29, 2021 20:41:50 GMT -5
I don’t mind it at all as it’s own PPV, but at the same time it would be cool to see it on Mania again.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Oct 30, 2021 3:28:47 GMT -5
I don’t think Swagger failed because no one cared. He won the same year that they had MITB for the final time at Wrestlemania and had it’s own PPV a few months later so they had to get the briefcase off him before the PPV. He was still an up and comer at the time and had no time to get built up because he cashed in shortly after.
I think they’re trying to build towards being a Big 4 type PPV. Hell, they’re having it in Allegiant Stadium next year. For the past few years I’ve thought it’s run it’s course but then come game night, the match delivers. I still think it should be a Wrestlemania attraction though. If you weren’t in the main event, the next best match was against Undertaker. But with Taker gone, that next best spot should be the ladder match.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Oct 30, 2021 13:46:10 GMT -5
Money in the Bank should be its on PPV. Unlike Hell in a Cell
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Oct 30, 2021 14:23:14 GMT -5
Would be really cool to build up the MITB match again for Mania where over a month or more you build to the match up.Having one qualifying match on RAW & Smackdown per week and then maybe a triple threat bout before Mania on both shows.That would give you a month worth of build for the match and and actual storyline.Put some of the bigger names in the bout that are left off the card and a younger talent or two.
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Post by Evil Abed on Oct 30, 2021 14:30:03 GMT -5
I wish they’d just scrap MITB all together to be honest. If they were able to get a little more creative with ideas (i.e. take a guy off TV for a few months/fake an injury so when he returns its a complete shock, or have him cash in on the actual MITB PPV a year later so that once Wrestler A cashes in on Wrestler B, win lose or draw Wrestler C comes in and cashes in after that match) I’d say keep it, but its the same rinse, wash, repeat storylines year after year.
It’s the same old booking of “well the champion is “injured” here’s my moment to cash in” storyline. It’s become stale even for heels, and its even worse for faces, especially if they’re winning a title for the first time. Kinda has that stigma on your run that that was the only way you could get to the top.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 30, 2021 15:31:39 GMT -5
I blame the pandemic more then Otis or creative for him winning the MITB. Otis was over with the fans but without fans in the arenas, he was just kinda there.
That being said the Royal Rumble, and if they ever want to take it serious again with main event stars & not mid card jokes, The King of the Ring should be the only #1 contenders events. Rumble winner has a title shot at Mania (and only Mania) and KOTR at SummerSlam
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Post by LK3 on Oct 30, 2021 17:59:26 GMT -5
I blame the pandemic more then Otis or creative for him winning the MITB. Otis was over with the fans but without fans in the arenas, he was just kinda there. That being said the Royal Rumble, and if they ever want to take it serious again with main event stars & not mid card jokes, The King of the Ring should be the only #1 contenders events. Rumble winner has a title shot at Mania (and only Mania) and KOTR at SummerSlam I always liked the idea of the KOTR winner getting a title shot. That was really never the case though right? I know Brock got his title shot from it in 2002, but were there others before that?
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 30, 2021 19:16:41 GMT -5
MITB should retire. The concept is old and tured
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 30, 2021 19:28:11 GMT -5
There should only be 4 PPVs a year.
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Post by Evil Abed on Oct 30, 2021 19:57:16 GMT -5
I blame the pandemic more then Otis or creative for him winning the MITB. Otis was over with the fans but without fans in the arenas, he was just kinda there. That being said the Royal Rumble, and if they ever want to take it serious again with main event stars & not mid card jokes, The King of the Ring should be the only #1 contenders events. Rumble winner has a title shot at Mania (and only Mania) and KOTR at SummerSlam I always liked the idea of the KOTR winner getting a title shot. That was really never the case though right? I know Brock got his title shot from it in 2002, but were there others before that? Owen in 94? Mabel in 95? They won KOTR and got a title shot at Summerslam. Before I started watching though so idk how those stories played out. Angle technically got his shot in ‘00 but really wasn’t because he won KOTR.
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Post by LK3 on Oct 30, 2021 20:39:05 GMT -5
I always liked the idea of the KOTR winner getting a title shot. That was really never the case though right? I know Brock got his title shot from it in 2002, but were there others before that? Owen in 94? Mabel in 95? They won KOTR and got a title shot at Summerslam. Before I started watching though so idk how those stories played out. Angle technically got his shot in ‘00 but really wasn’t because he won KOTR. Before I started watching as well. I just know it wasn't something regularly part of winning KOTR.
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Post by personagamer on Nov 4, 2021 20:34:42 GMT -5
Nah they should just scrap the match entirely with a winner like Otis
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