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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 5, 2021 14:09:30 GMT -5
HHH shouldn’t get a free pass if he really cared he would have spoke up. How would you know he doesn’t try to fight for them? He fought to get Samoa Joe back. he doesn't know at all. He does however know how to make a new account every time he's shunned out the door.
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Post by Scott! on Nov 5, 2021 14:43:17 GMT -5
Kross and Scarlett weren't a surprise for me, WWE absolutely blew it with them.
The way they were presented on NXT would've worked on the main roster. Vince getting rid of Scarlett and putting that stupid gear on him was the deathbed.
Franky Monet and Eva Marie are a confusing one. What was the point in hiring them in the first place? What was it, 4 months not even? Pointless.
Vince shat the bed with Kieth Lee. Dude was so talented, he could've and would've got over big on Raw had they not keep flip flopping with him.
If John Morrison is still with the company past this weekend I'll be surprised. He's been wasted since he came back and with Taya getting fired, I can see him saying F it and going too.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Nov 5, 2021 14:51:37 GMT -5
There’s nothing really surprising.
Lee was 36 Kross was 36 Taya was 38 Nia was 37
If WWE is really trying to make new younger stars for the future, than there’s no point in trying to repackage and get these older wrestlers over
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Post by k5 on Nov 5, 2021 15:06:07 GMT -5
There’s nothing really surprising. Lee was 36 Kross was 36 Taya was 38 Nia was 37 If WWE is really trying to make new younger stars for the future, than there’s no point in trying to repackage and get these older wrestlers over then why devote the time to them in the first place without giving them a proper chance?
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Post by hitmancmedge on Nov 5, 2021 15:09:27 GMT -5
There’s nothing really surprising. Lee was 36 Kross was 36 Taya was 38 Nia was 37 If WWE is really trying to make new younger stars for the future, than there’s no point in trying to repackage and get these older wrestlers over then why devote the time to them in the first place without giving them a proper chance? Because they were treating NXT like a third touring brand. They have changed the approach and it’s younger and constantly rotating talent out if they aren’t improving or moving up
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Post by tylerbreezee on Nov 5, 2021 15:14:21 GMT -5
There’s nothing really surprising. Lee was 36 Kross was 36 Taya was 38 Nia was 37 If WWE is really trying to make new younger stars for the future, than there’s no point in trying to repackage and get these older wrestlers over then why devote the time to them in the first place without giving them a proper chance? Well they were employed before WWE went back to this early 2000’s mindset/formula
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Nov 5, 2021 15:21:12 GMT -5
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Post by Liquid Swordsman on Nov 5, 2021 15:23:29 GMT -5
It almost feels like that they're carefully and slowly trying anything to erase any memory of NXT before the brand change.
And I guess that includes punishing the talent that made the show great until they have a good enough reason to release them. It's probably why guys like Lee and Kross had such horrible debuts. It's as if NXT is not canon in their universe or something.
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Nov 5, 2021 15:40:10 GMT -5
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Post by hitmancmedge on Nov 5, 2021 15:43:52 GMT -5
I mean gotta be honest of all the people let go yesterday she was absolutely the most deserving with a long list of reasons why she needed to go and has needed to go for years.
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Post by kinnikuman on Nov 5, 2021 15:51:59 GMT -5
There’s nothing really surprising. Lee was 36 Kross was 36 Taya was 38 Nia was 37 If WWE is really trying to make new younger stars for the future, than there’s no point in trying to repackage and get these older wrestlers over Except they cut young people too ... and currently feature old wrestlers for the most part. If WWE wants a youth revolution ... they better show it.
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Post by k5 on Nov 5, 2021 15:52:54 GMT -5
then why devote the time to them in the first place without giving them a proper chance? Because they were treating NXT like a third touring brand. They have changed the approach and it’s younger and constantly rotating talent out if they aren’t improving or moving up they got moved up and were squandered. my point is, if there was enough interest for all the initial investment, why not see those talents through on the main roster? they weren’t even given an actual opportunity to possibly get over since when is 36 old anyways
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Post by Sizzle on Nov 5, 2021 16:31:00 GMT -5
Apparently some of the talent cut were cut for not being vaccinated. If that's the case I'd figure Nia, Kross, and Scarlett are among those names.
I couldn't really care less about them being on WWE's roster for the most part whether or not they were vaccinated.
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Post by kinnikuman on Nov 5, 2021 16:44:55 GMT -5
Something has to give eventually ...
Roman Reigns (36) Big E (35) Becky Lynch (34) Charlotte (35) Nakamura (41) Damian Priest (39) Randy Orton (41) Matt Riddle (35) Usos (36) AJ Styles (44) Asuka (40) Bobby Lashley (45) Brock Lesnar (44) Carmella (34) Cesaro (40) Dolph Ziggler (41) Drew McIntyre (36) Edge (48) Finn Balor (40) Baron Corbin (37) Jeff Hardy (44) John Cena (44) John Morrison (42) Kevin Owens (37) Kofi Kingston (40) Miz (41) Natalya (39) Rey Mysterio (46) Goldberg (54) Sami Zayn (36) Sheamus (43)
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Post by LA Times on Nov 5, 2021 17:00:16 GMT -5
Something has to give eventually ... Roman Reigns (36) Big E (35) Becky Lynch (34) Charlotte (35) Nakamura (41) Damian Priest (39) Randy Orton (41) Matt Riddle (35) Usos (36) AJ Styles (44) Asuka (40) Bobby Lashley (45) Brock Lesnar (44) Carmella (34) Cesaro (40) Dolph Ziggler (41) Drew McIntyre (36) Edge (48) Finn Balor (40) Baron Corbin (37) Jeff Hardy (44) John Cena (44) John Morrison (42) Kevin Owens (37) Kofi Kingston (40) Miz (41) Natalya (39) Rey Mysterio (46) Goldberg (54) Sami Zayn (36) Sheamus (43) NXT is the future of the WWE Bron Breakker (24) Trick Williams (27) Carmelo Hayes (27) Gable Steveson (21) Brooks Jensen (20) Josh Briggs (28) Simone Johnson (20) Sarray (25) Indi Hartwell (25) Cora Jade (21) Odyssey Jones (27)
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Post by tylerbreezee on Nov 5, 2021 17:06:14 GMT -5
Something has to give eventually ... Roman Reigns (36) Big E (35) Becky Lynch (34) Charlotte (35) Nakamura (41) Damian Priest (39) Randy Orton (41) Matt Riddle (35) Usos (36) AJ Styles (44) Asuka (40) Bobby Lashley (45) Brock Lesnar (44) Carmella (34) Cesaro (40) Dolph Ziggler (41) Drew McIntyre (36) Edge (48) Finn Balor (40) Baron Corbin (37) Jeff Hardy (44) John Cena (44) John Morrison (42) Kevin Owens (37) Kofi Kingston (40) Miz (41) Natalya (39) Rey Mysterio (46) Goldberg (54) Sami Zayn (36) Sheamus (43) Youre missing the point. Those are all heavily established wrestlers. They aren’t recent NXT call ups in their late 30’s who need to be introduced to the WWE universe and packaged to do so. They’d rather spend their time now doing that with people in their 20’s who have 10+ years ahead of them, not 5 if you’re lucky
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Post by hitmancmedge on Nov 5, 2021 17:09:48 GMT -5
Apparently some of the talent cut were cut for not being vaccinated. If that's the case I'd figure Nia, Kross, and Scarlett are among those names. I couldn't really care less about them being on WWE's roster for the most part whether or not they were vaccinated. Oney too….we had a convo about that, we scolded and told we can’t talk about it and it was all erased
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Post by drgreenevil on Nov 5, 2021 17:51:51 GMT -5
Some of the recent releases are kinda shocking...
Esp. Karrion Kross and Keith Lee. They were getting a lot of push and airtime. But it seems that when their hype and momentum didn't transfer over from NXT to the main roster, the signs were there. Triple H not being around to be some modern voice of reason probably doesn't help either.
But WWE's releases have always been kinda suspect. If you aren't over in the way the upper brass want's you to be, "Bye. We don't want to play with you anymore".
Some of these people had a lot of potential, but the WWE didn't even really play with that much if at all... Franky Monet/Taya V, Harry Smith, Scarlett Bordeaux
And they released a lot of women that added to the womens division and could have helped break up the Charlotte/Becky/Sasha/Bailey monotony... Franky Monet/Taya V, Scarlett Bordeaux, Ember Moon, Mia Yim, There was so much hoopla around Eva Maria coming back a few months ago. But now she's gone too.
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Post by stratusfaction23 on Nov 5, 2021 20:25:57 GMT -5
It's almost like they intentionally sabotaged Kross when they brought him up to the main roster by taking away Scarlett and everything that worked for him, blame him for not getting over only to get rid of him/them both. It's a damn shame.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Nov 5, 2021 23:45:34 GMT -5
It always sucks to see people losing their job due to something that is out of their control. That being said, no one of high value was really lost except for maybe Keith Lee. Its a shame we won't get to see his teased matches against Brock and Roman. Kross was entertaining in NXT but only when he was smashing most of the 4ft tall roster. His 'fall and pray' schtick was tacky as hell.
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