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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 16, 2021 12:00:28 GMT -5
Anyone else find it unbelievable that Goldberg never won the WCW Title again after dropping it to Nash? Yeah, politics played a big role in this, but if there was one guy who rivaled the popularity of Austin and Rock in late 1998 / early 1999, it was Goldberg.
WCW remained in business for alittle over two more years after Nash beat Goldberg, yet passed the world title around like a hot potato. In that time, we had…
- Hogan - 2 reigns
- Nash - 5 reigns
- DDP - 3 reigns
- Jarrett - 4 reigns
- Booker- 4 reigns (before WCW went out of business)
- Flair - 3 reigns
- Sid - 2 reigns
- Sting - 2 reigns
- Bret - 2 reigns
- Savage - 1 reign
- Steiner - 1 reign
- Benoit - 1 reign
- Russo - 1 reign
- Arquette - 1 reign
You’re telling me, that even with all the politicking going on, that they couldn’t get the title on Goldberg one more time?
Just another example of WCW self-imploding by burying the biggest home-grown star they had post-1997.
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Post by jason88cubs on Nov 16, 2021 19:15:55 GMT -5
Pretty crazy still hard to believe Hall didnt have 1 or even Luger
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Post by jking1979 on Nov 16, 2021 19:43:09 GMT -5
Lex Luger went downhill in 1998. He was red hot when he beat Hulk Hogan on WCW Nitro in 1997.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 16, 2021 21:49:04 GMT -5
They built Luger so well in 1996/97, but sadly he was another guy lost in the shuffle come 1998.
Hall’s demons were aparently so bad that even WCW wouldn’t put the belt on him for a few hours. That says a lot.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 17, 2021 10:35:14 GMT -5
I remember in the fall of 1999, Goldberg won back the US Title, and then won the Tag Title's with Bret, and it seemed like they were building him up to be WCW Champion again. Then they did the screw job finish, and Goldberg messed up his arm by smashing it through a glass window, and then when he did come back they turned him heel for some reason.
I don't get that. Goldberg was one new blood talent that fans actually loved and they have him turn against the fans.... made zero sense.
Shocking turns can be really great, if done right. Goldberg turning heel was a shock but for the wrong reasons.
As for the Lex Luger talk too, Lex was the man in 1997. I always felt that Sting's win over Hogan at Starrcade even without that stupid screwy finish, wouldn't have been exciting, because Lex already had beaten Hogan in August for the WCW Title, and all the WCW good guys celebrated with Lex then. Sting doing it in December is just not gonna be the same excitement.
Also, Lex went from being the very man in 1997, to joining the Wolfpac in 1998 to win a US Title for a few days, to turning heel, to becoming the Total Package and losing the Lex Luger name all together, to eventually teaming with Buff Bagwell as Totally Buff, and couldn't even get a WCW Tag Title run together.
I don't get how you have someone like a Lex Luger, a Sting, a DDP, a Kevin Nash, a Goldberg, and you are pushing the likes of Jeff Jarrett, Mike Awesome, and Hugh Morrus to title wins and title matches in the later year of 2000. No wonder WCW didn't have any fan support near the end.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Nov 17, 2021 10:38:17 GMT -5
I cant believe Nash had five reigns considering Hulk "that doesnt work for me brother" Hogan was in the company at the same time
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 17, 2021 10:57:45 GMT -5
I cant believe Nash had five reigns considering Hulk "that doesnt work for me brother" Hogan was in the company at the same time
Three of the reigns happened in the year 2000, and they were for like a day or two at the most. I think his longest reign in 2000 was in September and he held it for close to a month before dropping it back to Booker T.
In May he won it and handed it to Flair so Flair could be WCW Champion. And in early 2000 he awarded himself WCW Champion I believe when Benoit left and then dropped the belt to Sid either that night or the next TV show.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 17, 2021 15:14:24 GMT -5
I remember in the fall of 1999, Goldberg won back the US Title, and then won the Tag Title's with Bret, and it seemed like they were building him up to be WCW Champion again. Then they did the screw job finish, and Goldberg messed up his arm by smashing it through a glass window, and then when he did come back they turned him heel for some reason. I don't get that. Goldberg was one new blood talent that fans actually loved and they have him turn against the fans.... made zero sense. Shocking turns can be really great, if done right. Goldberg turning heel was a shock but for the wrong reasons. As for the Lex Luger talk too, Lex was the man in 1997. I always felt that Sting's win over Hogan at Starrcade even without that stupid screwy finish, wouldn't have been exciting, because Lex already had beaten Hogan in August for the WCW Title, and all the WCW good guys celebrated with Lex then. Sting doing it in December is just not gonna be the same excitement. Also, Lex went from being the very man in 1997, to joining the Wolfpac in 1998 to win a US Title for a few days, to turning heel, to becoming the Total Package and losing the Lex Luger name all together, to eventually teaming with Buff Bagwell as Totally Buff, and couldn't even get a WCW Tag Title run together. I don't get how you have someone like a Lex Luger, a Sting, a DDP, a Kevin Nash, a Goldberg, and you are pushing the likes of Jeff Jarrett, Mike Awesome, and Hugh Morrus to title wins and title matches in the later year of 2000. No wonder WCW didn't have any fan support near the end. WCW really booked themselves into a corner with Luger and Sting in 1997. While Sting was stalking the nWo from the shadows, someone needed to be the hero who was actually battling the nWo in the ring every night. That was Lex, and fans ate him up. I’m with you that regardless of the Sting/Hogan match being screwy or not, that it was aways gonna seem somewhat lackluster as Luger did what Sting couldnt a few months earlier. Sadly both were just lost in the shuffle come 1998, and were both pawns in the Hogan and Nash political games going on at the time. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 17, 2021 15:16:36 GMT -5
I cant believe Nash had five reigns considering Hulk "that doesnt work for me brother" Hogan was in the company at the same time Three of the reigns happened in the year 2000, and they were for like a day or two at the most. I think his longest reign in 2000 was in September and he held it for close to a month before dropping it back to Booker T. In May he won it and handed it to Flair so Flair could be WCW Champion. And in early 2000 he awarded himself WCW Champion I believe when Benoit left and then dropped the belt to Sid either that night or the next TV show. Nash beating Booker was made even funnier considering after Booker’s first title win, Russo was in a company meeting with Turner higher ups, claiming that WCW was going to start focusing on “newer” talent such as Booker in the top spots…yet Booker dropped the title to Nash just weeks after winning it. |
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Post by jking1979 on Nov 24, 2021 20:16:54 GMT -5
There should have been a real feud between Kevin Nash and Hollywood Hulk Hogan with Kevin Nash winning the WCW title.
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Post by K5 on Nov 25, 2021 23:19:11 GMT -5
I think the real amazing thing is that they managed to build Goldberg well and actually let him win it considering the politics going on in wcw during that period.
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Post by jking1979 on Nov 27, 2021 22:26:35 GMT -5
Norman Smiley could beat Bill Goldberg.
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