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Post by casanova on Dec 13, 2021 16:09:34 GMT -5
This was about 7 years ago. Was from an online auction from a company that did estate sales and crap they found in storage. I think there were 3 boxes total. One box of assorted managers, 2 boxes of black Duggans. I only got 1 box total. Another user on here got a box, but I won't mention him here because I don't know if he discloses that info. That’s fair enough, it’s mad thinking that there could potentially still be sealed cases in collectors collections. LJN’s/Hasbro’s, who knows. Believe it or not, there is a huge storage overhere in my town that belongs to an old man who ran the local toystore. It closed in the early 90s when his wife died. He did not throw anything away. There is so much in this storage you simply cannot count. Would be a paradise for graders. Lol |
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Post by Scott! on Dec 13, 2021 16:12:52 GMT -5
That’s fair enough, it’s mad thinking that there could potentially still be sealed cases in collectors collections. LJN’s/Hasbro’s, who knows. Believe it or not, there is a huge storage overhere in my town that belongs to an old man who ran the local toystore. It closed in the early 90s when his wife died. He did not throw anything away. There is so much in this storage you simply cannot count. Would be a paradise for graders. Lol You actually see that a lot with some Pokemon collectors, buying old store stock that has never been opened so I quite believe it. |
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Post by Kasper.ca on Dec 14, 2021 12:37:43 GMT -5
Believe it or not, there is a huge storage overhere in my town that belongs to an old man who ran the local toystore. It closed in the early 90s when his wife died. He did not throw anything away. There is so much in this storage you simply cannot count. Would be a paradise for graders. Lol I'm not saying we should go rob it, but maybe we should go rob it? lol |
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Post by Scott! on Dec 14, 2021 14:06:53 GMT -5
Believe it or not, there is a huge storage overhere in my town that belongs to an old man who ran the local toystore. It closed in the early 90s when his wife died. He did not throw anything away. There is so much in this storage you simply cannot count. Would be a paradise for graders. Lol I'm not saying we should go rob it, but maybe we should go rob it? lol I'm not saying I'd be in, but I'd be in, haha. |
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Post by newgenandy on Dec 15, 2021 7:48:34 GMT -5
This was about 7 years ago. Was from an online auction from a company that did estate sales and crap they found in storage. I think there were 3 boxes total. One box of assorted managers, 2 boxes of black Duggans. I only got 1 box total. Another user on here got a box, but I won't mention him here because I don't know if he discloses that info. That’s fair enough, it’s mad thinking that there could potentially still be sealed cases in collectors collections. LJN’s/Hasbro’s, who knows. This is why using collectables like this as an investment isn’t smart because one find could literally blow the market open A few years back video games collectors were trying to corner the market on a certain few games sealed which there were very limited copies of. A collector who didn’t like what they were doing revealed he had 2 shipping boxes sealed - each with 6 sealed copies of the game. So it went from about 30 known copies to 42 overnight. When the market ic people willing to spend that high isn’t great a find like that blows the market wide open and instantly decreases the value of other copies which the horders were bumping up Moral of the story, you never know what people have in lock ups, storage units etc |
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Post by Scott! on Dec 15, 2021 10:30:26 GMT -5
That’s fair enough, it’s mad thinking that there could potentially still be sealed cases in collectors collections. LJN’s/Hasbro’s, who knows. This is why using collectables like this as an investment isn’t smart because one find could literally blow the market open A few years back video games collectors were trying to corner the market on a certain few games sealed which there were very limited copies of. A collector who didn’t like what they were doing revealed he had 2 shipping boxes sealed - each with 6 sealed copies of the game. So it went from about 30 known copies to 42 overnight. When the market ic people willing to spend that high isn’t great a find like that blows the market wide open and instantly decreases the value of other copies which the horders were bumping up Moral of the story, you never know what people have in lock ups, storage units etc What you're saying is completely right. If that one case produced 10 perfect grades for example, populations up and there's more in the market. I think collectors, especially ones I know, like the stuff that is completely obscure with little to no populations of the items graded. |
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Post by newgenandy on Dec 15, 2021 10:43:42 GMT -5
This is why using collectables like this as an investment isn’t smart because one find could literally blow the market open A few years back video games collectors were trying to corner the market on a certain few games sealed which there were very limited copies of. A collector who didn’t like what they were doing revealed he had 2 shipping boxes sealed - each with 6 sealed copies of the game. So it went from about 30 known copies to 42 overnight. When the market ic people willing to spend that high isn’t great a find like that blows the market wide open and instantly decreases the value of other copies which the horders were bumping up Moral of the story, you never know what people have in lock ups, storage units etc What you're saying is completely right. If that one case produced 10 perfect grades for example, populations up and there's more in the market. I think collectors, especially ones I know, like the stuff that is completely obscure with little to no populations of the items graded. Another example although they’re not worth much but it just goes to show you never know what people will find is the examples of the boxes and boxes of 1998 wrestlemania cards which turn up 23 years later in a discount chain on the states |
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Post by juniordaddyo on Dec 17, 2021 6:08:30 GMT -5
Grading is purely an individuals opinion. Personally I don't like it, however everyone is entitled to do as they please with their own figures so I will never force my opinion on to others. I must admit, I do like the acrylic cases that graded figures come in. I just dislike people who grade to purely profit off of it. If you are going to grade and display then I have time for that.
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Post by newgenandy on Dec 27, 2021 4:32:59 GMT -5
Another example why collectables including graded ones are not a good investment, 4x sealed shipping boxes of hasbro figures case fresh yellow series and tatanka/flair series are going on sale in jan
That’s 24 x 4 = 96 case fresh hasbros on the market. So anyone currently with a mint yellow card razor or Shawn looking to make £££ will soon see the value of the figure go down
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Post by hh2trotts on Dec 28, 2021 11:18:13 GMT -5
finding 96 unopened figures wont even be a drop in the hasbro market. Maybe if it were series 2 Galoob, a more niche market.
High grades from AFA on HAsbro/LJN figures certainly increase the value whether you like it or not.
UKG/CAS that one that starts with an R, all just basically a nice acrylic way of preserving a figure. not a ton of value added.
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Post by Scott! on Dec 28, 2021 11:37:27 GMT -5
finding 96 unopened figures wont even be a drop in the hasbro market. Maybe if it were series 2 Galoob, a more niche market. High grades from AFA on HAsbro/LJN figures certainly increase the value whether you like it or not. UKG/CAS that one that starts with an R, all just basically a nice acrylic way of preserving a figure. not a ton of value added. I'm in the UK and a lot of my friends on Twitter are Hasbro collectors, so I see a lot of UKG figures. I think in years to come they'll be more valuable, they look great and I think a lot more people are using them now. |
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Post by newgenandy on Dec 28, 2021 12:06:39 GMT -5
finding 96 unopened figures wont even be a drop in the hasbro market. Maybe if it were series 2 Galoob, a more niche market. High grades from AFA on HAsbro/LJN figures certainly increase the value whether you like it or not. UKG/CAS that one that starts with an R, all just basically a nice acrylic way of preserving a figure. not a ton of value added. If even a small number of those 96 grade and get decent it very much dilutes the pool There’s not hundreds of people looking to spend the funds high graded hasbro figures command - especially yellow card razor and Shawn |
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Post by Scott! on Dec 28, 2021 12:18:25 GMT -5
If even a small number of those 96 grade and get decent it very much dilutes the pool There’s not hundreds of people looking to spend the funds high graded hasbro figures command - especially yellow card razor and Shawn I think you are underestimating the amount of Hasbro collectors that will. It's the same with any line, but the Hasbro's have a very hardcore fan base and there's a ton of people willing to spend big bucks to have minty mint ones in their collection. If all 96 of those graded 85-90 then the price wouldn't go down. If a fraction of them were sold, the price those sold for would either be or set a benchmark on price. I can't see it as a bad thing. |
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Post by newgenandy on Dec 28, 2021 12:35:24 GMT -5
If even a small number of those 96 grade and get decent it very much dilutes the pool There’s not hundreds of people looking to spend the funds high graded hasbro figures command - especially yellow card razor and Shawn I think you are underestimating the amount of Hasbro collectors that will. It's the same with any line, but the Hasbro's have a very hardcore fan base and there's a ton of people willing to spend big bucks to have minty mint ones in their collection. If all 96 of those graded 85-90 then the price wouldn't go down. If a fraction of them were sold, the price those sold for would either be or set a benchmark on price. I can't see it as a bad thing. Using the bay as a guide since it’s the largest consolidated single place to reference - I understand figures are sold elsewhere but this is unquestionably the largest site for reselling the volume of sold carded hasbro figures worldwide on that site is: 11 in oct (including 4 sold between £53 and £72) 10 in nov 5 so far in Dec The market for carded graded hasbros is not as big as people think. If you search moc hasbro graded figure then 29 come up - again I know there’s more than that but to suggest even half of those in the shipping containers wouldn’t have a massive effect doesn’t seem to match the facts |
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Post by Scott! on Dec 28, 2021 13:16:56 GMT -5
Using the bay as a guide since it’s the largest consolidated single place to reference - I understand figures are sold elsewhere but this is unquestionably the largest site for reselling the volume of sold carded hasbro figures worldwide on that site is: 11 in oct (including 4 sold between £53 and £72) 10 in nov 5 so far in Dec The market for carded graded hasbros is not as big as people think. If you search moc hasbro graded figure then 29 come up - again I know there’s more than that but to suggest even half of those in the shipping containers wouldn’t have a massive effect doesn’t seem to match the facts The big thing is, people are buying ungraded MOC Hasbo's and getting them graded themselves for their own collection. I'm not gonna argue with the fact you presented, because I go to eBay too, but you can't think that every single thing in this game is bought and sold on eBay as you've said. Most of my collection has come from private sellers and people I've met along the way. I know that I'm not a source to say that the market is huge, but don't underestimate it is all I'm saying. |
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Post by hh2trotts on Dec 29, 2021 11:22:22 GMT -5
Using the bay as a guide since it’s the largest consolidated single place to reference - I understand figures are sold elsewhere but this is unquestionably the largest site for reselling the volume of sold carded hasbro figures worldwide on that site is: 11 in oct (including 4 sold between £53 and £72) 10 in nov 5 so far in Dec The market for carded graded hasbros is not as big as people think. If you search moc hasbro graded figure then 29 come up - again I know there’s more than that but to suggest even half of those in the shipping containers wouldn’t have a massive effect doesn’t seem to match the facts The big thing is, people are buying ungraded MOC Hasbo's and getting them graded themselves for their own collection. I'm not gonna argue with the fact you presented, because I go to eBay too, but you can't think that every single thing in this game is bought and sold on eBay as you've said. Most of my collection has come from private sellers and people I've met along the way. I know that I'm not a source to say that the market is huge, but don't underestimate it is all I'm saying. I guess we will cross that bridge in 2.5 years when the figures return from grading. I did watch thousands of new MOC hit the market out of japan over the past 3 years. It did very little if anything to drop the price long term. The one seller must have sold 50 123-kids over a six month period. Thats $1000 figure MOC today. |
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Post by 100PercentRudos on Jan 2, 2022 21:19:58 GMT -5
Just speaking personally... I have my entire AAA Kelian set cased, but I will not have any of them graded. They look amazing in the acrylic cases, I agree, but I prefer not to have one person have an opinion on the shape of the figures, especially with the figure market not anywhere close to the baseball card and comic book scene
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