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Post by Chip on Dec 6, 2021 22:39:57 GMT -5
i like this Edge/Miz feud a lot. two of the all time greats, going at it. the past 2 weeks have given it a storyline and a purpose. which is what you're supposed to do in wrestling. both guys are absolutely fantastic on the mic and its proving that as long as you give the audience good material and good promos, the matches matter. im really looking forward to the match at the PPV and hope we get a nice little feud out of this What's this now? Miz doesn't belong anywhere near that conversation. he absolutely does, are you kidding me? dude has been going strong since 2006. over 15 year career and no sign of stopping. he's a top guy on the mic all time. he's won 20 major championships in the company. he's been a legit top start for over a decade easily The Miz is an all-time great wrestler/superstar/sports-entertainer.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 6, 2021 22:50:45 GMT -5
Is there a reason they are hyping this up as 2 women main eventing? Isnt this like the billionth time? Im sure Charlotte has done it. I know Bliss-Banks main evented at least once.
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Post by bWo on Dec 6, 2021 22:56:37 GMT -5
What's this now? Miz doesn't belong anywhere near that conversation. he absolutely does, are you kidding me? dude has been going strong since 2006. over 15 year career and no sign of stopping. he's a top guy on the mic all time. dude has won 20 major championships in the company. he's been a legit top start for over a decade easily The Miz is an all-time great wrestler/superstar/sports-entertainer. Where is he all time? Top 5? 10? 20? 30?
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Post by bWo on Dec 6, 2021 22:57:21 GMT -5
Is there a reason they are hyping this up as 2 women main eventing? Isnt this like the billionth time? Im sure Charlotte has done it. I know Bliss-Banks main evented at least once. I'm guessing because Liv is winning and they want it to feel like a really big moment.
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Post by bWo on Dec 6, 2021 22:58:51 GMT -5
Is there a reason they are hyping this up as 2 women main eventing? Isnt this like the billionth time? Im sure Charlotte has done it. I know Bliss-Banks main evented at least once. I'm guessing because Liv is winning and they want it to feel like a really big moment. Or not.
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Post by Chip on Dec 6, 2021 23:01:18 GMT -5
he absolutely does, are you kidding me? dude has been going strong since 2006. over 15 year career and no sign of stopping. he's a top guy on the mic all time. dude has won 20 major championships in the company. he's been a legit top start for over a decade easily The Miz is an all-time great wrestler/superstar/sports-entertainer. Where is he all time? Top 5? 10? 20? 30? hard to pinpoint. absolutely not top 20 or anything. i could see him in the 40-50 range though. would take a bit of work to figure it all out when you think about how many wrestlers have existed. thats a good number
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 6, 2021 23:08:51 GMT -5
Is there a reason they are hyping this up as 2 women main eventing? Isnt this like the billionth time? Im sure Charlotte has done it. I know Bliss-Banks main evented at least once.
When you've had women main event at Wrestlemania there is no need to hype up two women being in the main event on Raw. But then again... Vince feels the WWE universe are morons and forgets easily what happened just a week earlier, so it makes sense that they would hype this up for us.
But I feel Liv should have won tonight. "Gotta make new stars!" says Vince. "Keep the title on the same old stars!" says Vince.
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Post by jking1979 on Dec 6, 2021 23:20:29 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Liv Morgan but it would have been something new for her to win the womens title tonight. I like when Edge does promos. RAW needs Norman Smiley because they lack entertainment.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Dec 7, 2021 1:49:33 GMT -5
It would've been horrible if Morgan had won - but it's going to happen eventually, unfortunately. Fancy putting her in the main event.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Dec 7, 2021 4:00:51 GMT -5
Becky using the ropes is fine, albeit a little repetitive. What I hate is that she holds it in a way that wouldn’t offer any advantage whatsoever.
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Post by Alexarules16 on Dec 7, 2021 7:39:45 GMT -5
I don’t care what her haters say Becky’s reign has been awesome
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 7, 2021 7:55:57 GMT -5
i like this Edge/Miz feud a lot. two of the all time greats, going at it. the past 2 weeks have given it a storyline and a purpose. which is what you're supposed to do in wrestling. both guys are absolutely fantastic on the mic and its proving that as long as you give the audience good material and good promos, the matches matter. im really looking forward to the match at the PPV and hope we get a nice little feud out of this What's this now? Miz doesn't belong anywhere near that conversation. This.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Dec 7, 2021 8:54:49 GMT -5
Is there a reason they are hyping this up as 2 women main eventing? Isnt this like the billionth time? Im sure Charlotte has done it. I know Bliss-Banks main evented at least once. It was the 17th anniversary of the first time a women’s title match (and a women’s match in general) main evented Raw. Also possibly testing how Liv does in a main event.
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Post by jking1979 on Dec 7, 2021 11:22:35 GMT -5
I remember when it really was RAW is WAR. It is now RAW is snore because it puts me to sleep. I know some of these wrestlers have to be better than that. It makes me miss a real talent like Bray Wyatt.
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Post by PJ on Dec 7, 2021 14:27:44 GMT -5
Well, I haven’t watched all of RAW yet. And I did fast forward a couple matches/segments. So I am up to the Woman’s title match now. But my biggest complaint to this point is why wasn’t the count broken and restarted when Ford jumped out of the ring towards Omos?
And I think it’s the same ref in this woman’s match and he broke the count on Morgan’s dive onto Becky. So now he knows the rules? Makes no sense. lol
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 7, 2021 14:56:24 GMT -5
It would've been horrible if Morgan had won - but it's going to happen eventually, unfortunately. Fancy putting her in the main event.
We had to sit through the horrible gimmick of Nikki A.S.H. with the Raw Women's Title for a month. We could handle Liv Morgan for a month too with the Raw Women's Title.
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Post by bWo on Dec 7, 2021 19:19:58 GMT -5
Where is he all time? Top 5? 10? 20? 30? hard to pinpoint. absolutely not top 20 or anything. i could see him in the 40-50 range though. would take a bit of work to figure it all out when you think about how many wrestlers have existed. thats a good number Oh. I think those numbers get to a point where we're just splitting hairs. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Ric Flair. The Undertaker. The Miz............ That's where I thought you were going with Miz being an "all timer."
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Dec 7, 2021 19:41:30 GMT -5
is jeff hardy on drugs again?
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Post by Chip on Dec 7, 2021 21:43:12 GMT -5
hard to pinpoint. absolutely not top 20 or anything. i could see him in the 40-50 range though. would take a bit of work to figure it all out when you think about how many wrestlers have existed. thats a good number Oh. I think those numbers get to a point where we're just splitting hairs. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Ric Flair. The Undertaker. The Miz............ That's where I thought you were going with Miz being an "all timer." yeah i was saying Miz is on the level of stars like Edge, Big Show, Booker T, Hall & Nash, Perfect, DiBiase, Batista, Steamboat, Sgt. Slaughter, JBL, The Dudley's there's a pretty large list of wrestlers/performers who are just entrenched for all time. main events, world titles, memorable feuds, long careers, varying wrestling abilities the guys like Austin, Rock, Flair, etc are on another planet altogether. its almost not even right to count them in a list of others.
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Post by bWo on Dec 9, 2021 12:51:50 GMT -5
Oh. I think those numbers get to a point where we're just splitting hairs. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Ric Flair. The Undertaker. The Miz............ That's where I thought you were going with Miz being an "all timer." yeah i was saying Miz is on the level of stars like Edge, Big Show, Booker T, Hall & Nash, Perfect, DiBiase, Batista, Steamboat, Sgt. Slaughter, JBL, The Dudley's there's a pretty large list of wrestlers/performers who are just entrenched for all time. main events, world titles, memorable feuds, long careers, varying wrestling abilities the guys like Austin, Rock, Flair, etc are on another planet altogether. its almost not even right to count them in a list of others.They generally aren't on the same list with others. That's why names like Rock, Austin, Flair are all timers, and guys like the Miz aren't. That's what I meant. Top 5, 10, 15, maybe 20. Once you get up into 30's and 40's it's just guys who were better than most, but don't belong in a conversation with the best of the best. Miz isn't the best of the best.
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