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Post by sonstuds on Dec 16, 2021 16:00:36 GMT -5
*shrugs*
I like Hangman Page and I like good matches so I'm fine with all of this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 16:01:33 GMT -5
Literally watched that hour glued to the screen marveling at just how much Hanger absolutely is on the same level as Bryan or Omega. I already knew that, but I felt like last night showed it to the rest of the world.
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 16, 2021 16:11:44 GMT -5
I think the biggest flaw is what has been pointed out recently in the fact that this was too early for a Hangman/Danielson match.
The match was good I liked it. I didn’t enjoy the finish as much but whatever. I think Hangman should’ve had a more dominant solidifying first defense as champion instead of immediately being thrown into a feud with Bryan where if either of them lose it damages them at the heights both of them are at right now.
I also really like Hangman and I think I’ve documented that prior. When I go to the shows I’ve cheered for him and will continue to attend AEW shows. There’s stuff I dislike about AEW. Im not gonna take everything they give me just because it’s an alternative to WWE which I’m also a fan of and will do the same.
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Post by CM Tusk on Dec 16, 2021 16:46:29 GMT -5
You guys are hilarious. Hangman looked good. Bryan is Bryan. Finish was logical as it showed them as equals while continuing Page’s reign. Match has nothing to do with WWE booking but some of us can’t help but compare at every waking moment. I hope for a rematch but I want Cole to be the one to beat Hangman at this point.
Second half of the show felt flat but that’ll happen sometime. I’m losing interest in Punk vs MJF. Waiting for Miro to just start murking everyone. Black is in my top five in the company but I have not been a fan of his booking past the Cody feud. I’m tired of all these multi man tag matches. Using the lights out for Darby and Sting was beyond stupid.
Still, AEW continues to be on fire and overall I enjoy it.
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Post by K5 on Dec 16, 2021 16:48:07 GMT -5
I think the biggest flaw is what has been pointed out recently in the fact that this was too early for a Hangman/Danielson match. The match was good I liked it. I didn’t enjoy the finish as much but whatever. I think Hangman should’ve had a more dominant solidifying first defense as champion instead of immediately being thrown into a feud with Bryan where if either of them lose it damages them at the heights both of them are at right now. I also really like Hangman and I think I’ve documented that prior. When I go to the shows I’ve cheered for him and will continue to attend AEW shows. There’s stuff I dislike about AEW. Im not gonna take everything they give me just because it’s an alternative to WWE which I’m also a fan of and will do the same. i appreciate your opinion, rather i agree with certain ones or not, because you're both a fan of but critical of both companies. in terms of direct criticisms of last night: although i liked bryan/page starting the night, they didn't have a proper follow up for the night and it affected the tempo of the show. if we'd had that 6 man set up as the night's main event (ftr+mjf vs sting,darby,punk) then we would've had a home run of an episode. aew is far from perfect. i wasn't happy to see jay lethal elimated by matt hardy in the battle royal last week, i agree with the sentiments by some in this thread that we don't get near enough santana and ortiz, but i know that i'm far happier with a lot of things this company does than any in comparison at the moment. we now have a fantastic set up where bryan can be frustrated that he hasn't gotten the job done with aew champions twice in a row, and that page had him dead to rights. page is now on danielson and omega's tier. this is exactly how stars are made, page is aew's first company made legend.
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Post by PJ on Dec 16, 2021 17:37:59 GMT -5
Like I said earlier in this thread. The only thing I didn’t like about the championship match was when they went to the Picture in Picture segment after Hangmen was busted open. For that whole pic in pic segment (3-5 min) you had BD doing jumping jacks and push ups in the ring while Hangman was outside with the doctor “checking his head” and giving him water. So that made it look like Hangman needed a break and help. Sure have the Dr check the head for 30 seconds, but then get away from him and have him get back in the ring.
I rewatched the match this morning and fast forwarded that segment and the match hit so much better where both wrestlers looked great.
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Post by Angusdacat on Dec 16, 2021 18:37:07 GMT -5
I had no problem with the 1 hour. The draw though was crap. NEAT you showed us great wrestling for an hour. You show us great wrestling every week. That's nothing new in AEW. We argued earlier that neither man could lose, but you have to have a finish of some sort somehow. There was ZERO need for a 1 hr draw. Do 30 min and add another match to the show. MAYBE if either man could work as good as Omega the match would've been much more amazing. And don't give me it was to enhance Hangman. He's already over. No one will even remember this match in a few weeks. It did nothing. Maybe have Omega show up on the ramp at the end to ensure a three way dance, I dunno. It needed something and we didn't get it. Imagine thinking Danielson can't work as good as Omega lmao
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Dec 16, 2021 18:44:16 GMT -5
I had no problem with the 1 hour. The draw though was crap. NEAT you showed us great wrestling for an hour. You show us great wrestling every week. That's nothing new in AEW. We argued earlier that neither man could lose, but you have to have a finish of some sort somehow. There was ZERO need for a 1 hr draw. Do 30 min and add another match to the show. MAYBE if either man could work as good as Omega the match would've been much more amazing. And don't give me it was to enhance Hangman. He's already over. No one will even remember this match in a few weeks. It did nothing. Maybe have Omega show up on the ramp at the end to ensure a three way dance, I dunno. It needed something and we didn't get it. Imagine thinking Danielson can't work as good as Omega lmao Danielson is wayyyy better than Omega. It isn't even close.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Dec 16, 2021 18:52:44 GMT -5
I'm not saying that's what this was done for but could this be still telling the story of Hangman questioning himself even as champion? I can see why people are a little let down by the outcome but as long as they use this to tell a story/setup a big PPV match(which I think will happen) I'm ok with everything. Imo both guys looked great and I got to watch a great match ,so it was a win win for me. I will say I'm in the camp of this match happened to quick,I rather seen Page getting his big win in his first defense then what we got and couple months down the road we could've gotten this result.
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Post by CM Tusk on Dec 16, 2021 18:58:11 GMT -5
I had no problem with the 1 hour. The draw though was crap. NEAT you showed us great wrestling for an hour. You show us great wrestling every week. That's nothing new in AEW. We argued earlier that neither man could lose, but you have to have a finish of some sort somehow. There was ZERO need for a 1 hr draw. Do 30 min and add another match to the show. MAYBE if either man could work as good as Omega the match would've been much more amazing. And don't give me it was to enhance Hangman. He's already over. No one will even remember this match in a few weeks. It did nothing. Maybe have Omega show up on the ramp at the end to ensure a three way dance, I dunno. It needed something and we didn't get it. Imagine thinking Danielson can't work as good as Omega lmao It’s up there with worst takes ever made on this site haha
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Dec 16, 2021 19:34:51 GMT -5
Imagine thinking Danielson can't work as good as Omega lmao It’s up there with worst takes ever made on this site haha The guy that posted this thinks WWE isn't wrestling but AEW is. He's full of bad takes.
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Post by kinnikuman on Dec 16, 2021 20:34:56 GMT -5
I had no problem with the 1 hour. The draw though was crap. NEAT you showed us great wrestling for an hour. You show us great wrestling every week. That's nothing new in AEW. We argued earlier that neither man could lose, but you have to have a finish of some sort somehow. There was ZERO need for a 1 hr draw. Do 30 min and add another match to the show. MAYBE if either man could work as good as Omega the match would've been much more amazing. And don't give me it was to enhance Hangman. He's already over. No one will even remember this match in a few weeks. It did nothing. Maybe have Omega show up on the ramp at the end to ensure a three way dance, I dunno. It needed something and we didn't get it. Imagine thinking Danielson can't work as good as Omega lmao He can't. Is he more technical? By leaps and bounds. Is he more fluid? No. Faster? No. Better aerialist? No. Better seller? No. Better match caller? No.
Danielson is ELITE as it gets. One of the best pure wrestlers EVER. But there can be better, and Omega is better. I wasn't knocking BD. I was saying Omega makes matches better because of his style. He gives you strong style AND high flying. BD doesn't.
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Post by K5 on Dec 16, 2021 20:40:10 GMT -5
it's pretty easy to say omega has had the far better matches within the last five years at least.
bryan finally being free to wrestle again might change that quickly though, he's been killing it in aew.
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Post by Angusdacat on Dec 17, 2021 5:40:52 GMT -5
Imagine thinking Danielson can't work as good as Omega lmao He can't. Is he more technical? By leaps and bounds. Is he more fluid? No. Faster? No. Better aerialist? No. Better seller? No. Better match caller? No.
Danielson is ELITE as it gets. One of the best pure wrestlers EVER. But there can be better, and Omega is better. I wasn't knocking BD. I was saying Omega makes matches better because of his style. He gives you strong style AND high flying. BD doesn't.
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Post by bWo on Dec 17, 2021 7:29:28 GMT -5
I see Larry, Curly, and Moe came back. Does Shemp know about this betrayal?
Danielson - Page was awesome. I grew up watching hockey (before it turned into whatever it is now) and games ended in tough, hard fought draws. I have no problems seeing that in a match. I think they might have to let the next hour long extravaganza end in the last minute or so though. You don't want people to automatically think it's going to be a draw once they get up to half an hour/45 minutes. Just to keep it fresh I think they have to.
The show slowed after the opener, but it was still a decent night.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 8:02:19 GMT -5
I had no problem with the 1 hour. The draw though was crap. NEAT you showed us great wrestling for an hour. You show us great wrestling every week. That's nothing new in AEW. We argued earlier that neither man could lose, but you have to have a finish of some sort somehow. There was ZERO need for a 1 hr draw. Do 30 min and add another match to the show. MAYBE if either man could work as good as Omega the match would've been much more amazing. And don't give me it was to enhance Hangman. He's already over. No one will even remember this match in a few weeks. It did nothing. Maybe have Omega show up on the ramp at the end to ensure a three way dance, I dunno. It needed something and we didn't get it. Imagine thinking Danielson can't work as good as Omega lmao This place has some really bad takes but I think that one takes the cake lol
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Post by kinnikuman on Dec 17, 2021 10:35:44 GMT -5
Not sure some of you get what I was throwing down. Look ...
Who puts on more exciting matches:
- HBK or Bret Hart - Prime RVD or Samoa Joe - AJ Styles or Randy Orton - PAC or Stone Cold
I wasn't talking about ability, lol. I love BD. I wasn't knocking him.
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Post by shenmue on Dec 17, 2021 11:51:26 GMT -5
Pac and stone cold mentioned together for the first time in history there.
Steve austin was more entertaining than pac in promos and matches.
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Post by kinnikuman on Dec 17, 2021 15:01:57 GMT -5
Pac and stone cold mentioned together for the first time in history there. Steve austin was more entertaining than pac in promos and matches. Entertaining the crowd with beers, fingers, stunners, and cussing isn't wrestling. I'm talking about wrestling and the action in the ring. Stunning Steve? Now that's a different story. He could wrestle. Stone Cold is one of the worst things to ever happen to the wrestling business (and sadly, the best thing). WHAT!?
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Post by CM Tusk on Dec 17, 2021 16:34:03 GMT -5
The original comment claimed Bryan couldn’t work as well as Omega.
Which is so hilariously bad.
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