DonDaBomb13
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Post by DonDaBomb13 on Dec 29, 2021 17:59:42 GMT -5
Toni Storm has been grossly misused since she left NXT UK (the WWE main roster ruins many from NXT). Now that she is gone from WWE, was an Elite figure of her ever discussed with Mattel/Steve? I can't recall. I do think that her basic figures were actually pretty good, but an Elite would have been great. I will miss Toni. What a waste of talent!
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Post by RybackV1 on Dec 29, 2021 18:00:29 GMT -5
never saw much in her tbh
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Post by captncharisma19 on Dec 29, 2021 18:13:20 GMT -5
never saw much in her tbh based on what? WWE/NXT?
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Post by RybackV1 on Dec 29, 2021 18:24:55 GMT -5
never saw much in her tbh based on what? WWE/NXT? Everything from the MYC to Main Roster run. Only thing she ever did that caught my eye was that time she hit thaf cool ass finisher on smackdown in her debut , only to never use it again
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Post by CM Tusk on Dec 29, 2021 18:32:18 GMT -5
Grossly seems like a bit of a stretch. Could she have done more? Sure. But she was in a feud with arguably one of the biggest female stars in wrestling feuding for the championship. Just because she didn’t beat Charlotte for the belt doesn’t mean she was treated like garbage and thrown away.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Dec 29, 2021 22:43:39 GMT -5
Meh
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Post by shanieomaniac on Dec 29, 2021 22:46:00 GMT -5
Toni Storm has been grossly misused since she left NXT UK (the WWE main roster ruins many from NXT). Now that she is gone from WWE, was an Elite figure of her ever discussed with Mattel/Steve? I can't recall. I do think that her basic figures were actually pretty good, but an Elite would have been great. I will miss Toni. What a waste of talent! I'm just happy we got the basics. Those were pretty dang snazzy, especially considering they were sculpted. (Although the sculpting didn't line up with the chase paint job). Would I have loved an Elite? Of course. I'm always up for women's elites. But at least we got something.
Can't say much for use/misuse though. I never saw her in NXT so my exposure to her was limited.
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Post by secondwhiteline on Dec 30, 2021 0:00:31 GMT -5
Toni Storm has been grossly misused since she left NXT UK (the WWE main roster ruins many from NXT). Now that she is gone from WWE, was an Elite figure of her ever discussed with Mattel/Steve? I can't recall. I do think that her basic figures were actually pretty good, but an Elite would have been great. I will miss Toni. What a waste of talent! I'm just happy we got the basics. Those were pretty dang snazzy, especially considering they were sculpted. (Although the sculpting didn't line up with the chase paint job). Would I have loved an Elite? Of course. I'm always up for women's elites. But at least we got something.
Can't say much for use/misuse though. I never saw her in NXT so my exposure to her was limited.
I've been following her since she was in Stardom and she's a hell of an in-ring talent. But she's never been a great promo, which is obviously a detriment in a WWE kind of setting. She didn't even really seem to get much of a shot in NXT proper, even after a great run in NXT UK.
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Post by captncharisma19 on Dec 30, 2021 2:59:20 GMT -5
Everything from the MYC to Main Roster run. Only thing she ever did that caught my eye was that time she hit thaf cool ass finisher on smackdown in her debut , only to never use it again So yes, you have only knowledge of her McMahon-produced work.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Dec 30, 2021 13:42:34 GMT -5
Everything from the MYC to Main Roster run. Only thing she ever did that caught my eye was that time she hit thaf cool ass finisher on smackdown in her debut , only to never use it again So yes, you have only knowledge of her McMahon-produced work. So? Maybe that's all he watches. If she didn't impress him as presented, then it stands to reason he might not be a fan. Personally, if someone is entertaining, that should transcend whoever's producing the material. Plenty of people before Toni Storm have been booked through a river of sh*t and still have managed to entertain. The notion that a valid opinion on a talent can only be formed by way a thorough familiarity with their work outside "the machine" basically sets up a built-in disregard for those talents whose only experience is the machine, because it negates work within the confines of WWE as a basis of opinion...which is dumb.
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Post by qdogg on Dec 30, 2021 14:26:15 GMT -5
I'm fine with the basic we got of her
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Post by captncharisma19 on Dec 30, 2021 15:00:42 GMT -5
So yes, you have only knowledge of her McMahon-produced work. So? Maybe that's all he watches. If she didn't impress him as presented, then it stands to reason he might not be a fan. Personally, if someone is entertaining, that should transcend whoever's producing the material. Plenty of people before Toni Storm have been booked through a river of sh*t and still have managed to entertain. The notion that a valid opinion on a talent can only be formed by way a thorough familiarity with their work outside "the machine" basically sets up a built-in disregard for those talents whose only experience is the machine, because it negates work within the confines of WWE as a basis of opinion...which is dumb. I disagree. To confine oneself to "the machine" is limiting one's view. Plato's allegory of the cave comes to mind here.
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Post by D Rock on Dec 30, 2021 15:39:05 GMT -5
I think she falls into a category that a lot of wrestlers do. She had a lot of talent, but lacked direction, character and storylines. So many wrestlers just all blend together nowadays and can easily be interchanged.
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Post by marklud on Dec 30, 2021 17:06:40 GMT -5
my god there's some terrible takes in here lol.
Anyways Toni's great and I'm thrilled we at least got her basic for my Stardom shelf
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Post by rastlinfigures on Dec 30, 2021 17:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Dec 30, 2021 17:35:42 GMT -5
So? Maybe that's all he watches. If she didn't impress him as presented, then it stands to reason he might not be a fan. Personally, if someone is entertaining, that should transcend whoever's producing the material. Plenty of people before Toni Storm have been booked through a river of sh*t and still have managed to entertain. The notion that a valid opinion on a talent can only be formed by way a thorough familiarity with their work outside "the machine" basically sets up a built-in disregard for those talents whose only experience is the machine, because it negates work within the confines of WWE as a basis of opinion...which is dumb. I disagree. To confine oneself to "the machine" is limiting one's view. Plato's allegory of the cave comes to mind here. It doesn't matter if he saw her freaking birth and everything since, or one match. If he ain't a fan, he ain't a fan. It isn't that serious.
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Post by K5 on Dec 30, 2021 18:02:24 GMT -5
So yes, you have only knowledge of her McMahon-produced work. So? Maybe that's all he watches. If she didn't impress him as presented, then it stands to reason he might not be a fan. Personally, if someone is entertaining, that should transcend whoever's producing the material. Plenty of people before Toni Storm have been booked through a river of sh*t and still have managed to entertain. The notion that a valid opinion on a talent can only be formed by way a thorough familiarity with their work outside "the machine" basically sets up a built-in disregard for those talents whose only experience is the machine, because it negates work within the confines of WWE as a basis of opinion...which is dumb. plenty of people have been booked through a river of crapand their career died from it. if your premise was correct, wcw 2000 was terrible not because of terrible booking or structural incompetence, it was on the talent. which is absurd. or that Steve Austin shouldn’t have been given the opportunity to be Stone Cold, he should’ve made the ringmaster work. “the machine” has and does misuse talent on a near chronic basis. not dumb at all to suggest that it is far from the grade maker for talent when their talent expectations are recognizably absurd and off kilter.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Dec 30, 2021 19:21:26 GMT -5
I disagree. To confine oneself to "the machine" is limiting one's view. Plato's allegory of the cave comes to mind here. It doesn't matter if he saw her freaking birth and everything since, or one match. If he ain't a fan, he ain't a fan. It isn't that serious. Said it better than I did. Wrestling is serious business.
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 1, 2022 18:20:26 GMT -5
She probably wasn't scheduled for an elite
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jan 1, 2022 18:38:35 GMT -5
I finally been a part of the forum long enough to say, "I only buy characters from [insert childhood wrestling era]." I have zero interest in NXT and all of the goofy roster call up and blunders. If WWE gave me some time to be invested in a Toni Storm elite, that's one thing....... but another NXT call-up to be fed to a main roster talent?! I'm sorry, but I'll pass and concentrate on my HBKs, Bret Harts, Warriors, Hogans, etc...
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