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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 30, 2022 23:12:32 GMT -5
Honestly, everyone would be saying Vince tearing both of his quads was the worst if it didn't make for such a memorable moment and everybody knows it. Outside the ridiculousness of that moment, it was a fun Rumble. Eddie, Benoit and Holly killing Puder. Everyone joining together to get out Hassan. Cena and Batista shining.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 30, 2022 23:13:50 GMT -5
Honestly, everyone would be saying Vince tearing both of his quads was the worst if it didn't make for such a memorable moment and everybody knows it. There is a lot to like about the 2005 Rumble. That one is no where close to the bottom of the list.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 30, 2022 23:28:23 GMT -5
The Rumble wasn't that bad. People had unrealistic expectations of an AEW/Impact star winning or their favorite career mid carder getting a useless push. The right guy one, even if it was predictable.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jan 30, 2022 23:59:14 GMT -5
In all honesty, I'm more mad about the finish of the women's rumble then the men's. I in no way wanted to see Ronda back ever. I don't care how well she has taken to the business she comes off as a whiner and a quitter and frankly toxic for the entire environment to me.
Brock was "The Next Big Thing" before he ever hit UFC. I mean, sure the way things went down smacks deeply of the "The WWE has no idea what it is doing right now" but I'm more excited for Brock being the winner than Ronda. Brock vs Roman at Mania might be decent, who knows? Although I do feel they are dragging the Paul Heyman aspect of it a bit too far, it's starting to seem like something you'd see on an episode of Maury. Having an unpredictable element like that works best if there is some remaining level of loyalty involved but having Heyman just keep deferring to who ever is winning at the moment only makes him look like a weak sleezebag who has no impact on the situation.
But, in general, yeah. The men's rumble was bad, but I can't help but think that, while more surprise entrants would have been nice, the WWE decimating their women's roster to the point that more than half the women in the rumble aren't even on the payroll felt horribly awkward to me, which was made worse when it was Ronda who came back and won it.
You want to talk about "no star power"?
The women's rumble was a huge example of that. Sure. there were stars, but not the type that are actually relevant to the conversation. Just goes to show that the company as a whole has no idea how to make stars and, the ones they have, they have no idea how to use.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 31, 2022 0:04:14 GMT -5
Honestly, everyone would be saying Vince tearing both of his quads was the worst if it didn't make for such a memorable moment and everybody knows it. 2005 is a top-tier rumble. Eddie and Benoit starting it off. Those two and Holly hazing Puter. Everyone going after Muhammad Hassan. The Angle and HBK interactions. Batista, Cena, Edge, and Rey making it to the final four (these four would become the pillars of the company over the next few years), the Batista and Cena botch, and the Vince incident.
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jan 31, 2022 0:13:24 GMT -5
It amazes me that the same company managed to book the 2018, arguably one of the best Rumbles of all time, also booked this years Rumble.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jan 31, 2022 1:08:28 GMT -5
11, 14, 15, 18 (greatest royal rumble) & 22. 2012 had a very wrong winner but had good surprises
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 31, 2022 1:24:12 GMT -5
If we are just talking about the Royal Rumble match itself, I never cared for the 1994, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2011, 2015 rumbles. I never cared how they were organized and done.
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Post by Hoobies on Jan 31, 2022 2:31:16 GMT -5
If we are just talking about the Royal Rumble match itself, I never cared for the 1994, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2011, 2015 rumbles. I never cared how they were organized and done. I like 99 for the car crash kinda Rumble that it is. And I enjoy the 2001 one. But I used to really like the 2002 one. Like it was one from my childhood, but watching it back recently, it is a very slow paced Rumble at points. Not as good as I remembered.
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Post by tenup on Jan 31, 2022 3:21:39 GMT -5
To the OP ASR how was Lesnar "the logical winner"? Nothing was achieved in the men's Rumble with him entering and winning it. If Lesnar wants to go on to WM and face Reigns he simply just has to show up on Smackdown and start a fued with him.
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Post by Mclovin on Jan 31, 2022 3:44:54 GMT -5
2010 2011 1995 2017 Those IMO were the worst ever Rumbles. Hold on hold on, 2010? Alright the 2011 Rumble f*cking sucked. So did every Rumble from 2012-2015. So did '93 and '95. 2017 is alright. But the 2010 Rumble is easily top five-seven all-time. CM Punk's domination of the first 10 minutes, Shawn's entire performance, it has one of the best finishes in Rumble history. Also I know we're talking about the Rumble matches themselves, but 2010's World Heavyweight and ECW Championship matches (I know what you're thinking but hear me out) were great. So good that it raises up the whole card, even Piggy James.
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Post by Mclovin on Jan 31, 2022 3:46:22 GMT -5
11, 14, 15, 18 (greatest royal rumble) & 22. 2012 had a very wrong winner but had good surprises If I'm being honest I'd rather have Jericho win in 2017 instead of 2012. And I'm an Orton fan through and through.
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Post by Mclovin on Jan 31, 2022 3:52:14 GMT -5
If we are just talking about the Royal Rumble match itself, I never cared for the 1994, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2011, 2015 rumbles. I never cared how they were organized and done. I like 99 for the car crash kinda Rumble that it is. And I enjoy the 2001 one. But I used to really like the 2002 one. Like it was one from my childhood, but watching it back recently, it is a very slow paced Rumble at points. Not as good as I remembered. The first 20 minutes of the '01 Rumble are f*cking trash. But everything from about #11 on was incredible ('01 Kane is my favorite Rumble performance ever). The last 20 minutes are incredible. With 2002, I love that one alot. I love the Hurricane spot, I love Kane throwing out Big Show, I love Perfect's return. It's easily top 5. 1999 is my least favorite Rumble. I'd watch the '93 Rumble twice before I watch that one. I actually like the 1994 edition, between Diesel's reign of dominance and the finish it was the most innovative Rumble yet and is actually my favorite 90's Rumble besides '90 and everyone's favorite '92.
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Jan 31, 2022 4:40:27 GMT -5
I haven't watched any Rumbles after 2002 but have watched all Rumbles prior and would rate 2001 Rumble the best. Hardcore weapons, surprises, Kane's massive performance, star power and just the way Austin won was huge.👍
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Post by cage on Jan 31, 2022 6:58:53 GMT -5
CM Punk was absolutely fantastic in the 2010 Royal Rumble, so it certainly wasn't that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2022 7:09:48 GMT -5
Both rumbles this year were insanely boring to me. My most hated is whatever year Kane and Big Show eliminated all of the over fan favorites one by one and made them look like chumps. Also, 1995 was pretty brutal
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jan 31, 2022 7:49:52 GMT -5
Surprised people don't like the 2001 Rumble. It's top three of all time imo.
2001, 1992, 2005 and 2018 are probably the top four.
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Post by MKSavage on Jan 31, 2022 9:52:17 GMT -5
I like 99 for the car crash kinda Rumble that it is. And I enjoy the 2001 one. But I used to really like the 2002 one. Like it was one from my childhood, but watching it back recently, it is a very slow paced Rumble at points. Not as good as I remembered. The first 20 minutes of the '01 Rumble are f*cking trash. But everything from about #11 on was incredible ('01 Kane is my favorite Rumble performance ever). The last 20 minutes are incredible. With 2002, I love that one alot. I love the Hurricane spot, I love Kane throwing out Big Show, I love Perfect's return. It's easily top 5. 1999 is my least favorite Rumble. I'd watch the '93 Rumble twice before I watch that one. I actually like the 1994 edition, between Diesel's reign of dominance and the finish it was the most innovative Rumble yet and is actually my favorite 90's Rumble besides '90 and everyone's favorite '92.I agree with you on this one, I really enjoyed the 1994 Rumble. For me it is the 4th best rumble of the 90s behind 1992, 1990, and 1991. I thought the match was well paced, Diesel dominance at the beginning was great. The stuff in the middle between Diesel, Macho, Crush, Bam Bam and Doink was really fun. Shawn coming in in the middle of the match and dumping out Diesel, and the Luger/Bret stuff was done well. Even though, the finish is not everyone's favorite, it was at least different - and it was done well. If I am not mistaken, the reason they went with the two winner finish was because Vince had not decided yet who he wanted the WWF champion to be. Vince really wanted Luger, but Luger wasn't doing well at the house show gates compared to Bret, and most of the company wanted Bret as the champion. After the event, Vince felt that Bret got the better reaction when announced as the winner, so he went with Bret at WM10.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 31, 2022 10:24:50 GMT -5
I love 2001 for the star power alone, and there were legit three or four names that could have realistically won (Austin, Rock, Taker, and Kane).
2004 is another one that doesn’t seem to get a ton of love (I get ignoring it in hindsight, but the Rumble itself is still super entertaining). Benoit had the story of being entered #1 by Heyman, but knowing Vince’s history to that point, there was still a lot of doubt as to if he’d actually win from #1 (HBK was the only one to have done it to that point, and Benoit wasn’t pushed like a top star like HBK was). Angle seemed like a likely candidate to win that one. Goldberg too (this was before it was known that he wasn’t resigning). Heck, even Orton and Cena seemed like prime candidates at the time to get a major rub from winning the Rumble. Add in the moments like The Cat dancing, Taker’s gong going off to scare Kane, everyone trying to eliminate Show, the Lesnar/Goldberg interactions, and Benoit winning make it a great Rumble.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 31, 2022 13:06:57 GMT -5
To the OP ASR how was Lesnar "the logical winner"? Nothing was achieved in the men's Rumble with him entering and winning it. If Lesnar wants to go on to WM and face Reigns he simply just has to show up on Smackdown and start a fued with him. It makes sense since Lesnar is the biggest or 2nd biggest star on the roster, Reigns screwed him and had Reigns faced Lesnar at Day One then I’m sure Lesnar would have lost & would have ended up in the Rumble and won anyways. I know he could have challenged Reigns without winning but why not give one of their big stars another Rumble win? Lesnar has been over as hell since returning and I’ve always wanted him to win a 2nd Rumble. There are a few other guys who could have won the Rumble but imo Lesnar winning was the right move.
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