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Post by TWJT on Feb 2, 2022 8:54:56 GMT -5
...will we end up with two belts or one?
So when the roster split was first devised back in the spring 2002 (20 years, holy moly), the idea was that the world champion would switch back and forth from RAW to SD as we moved forward through the year from one PPV to the next. So one month the champ would have a PPV feud with a RAW guy, then the next month a Smackdown guy, on and on. And only one world champ would exist. Once Brock went exclusive to Smackdown in the summer of 2002 the World Title was created and given to Triple H, and the above concept never played out long-term. Finally by the early 2010s both world champions were showing up on both shows (kind of like during the Alliance when the WWF and WCW Champs would both appear on both shows), and then the belts were unified at TLC '13. The Universal Title was created in summer '16, and we went back to the post-summer 2002 concept of a world champ for each show. But if Brock wins the WWE Title at Elimination Chamber, do you think he and Reigns might unify the belts at WM, and we go back to the very original concept of one world champ for two shows? I think it would be interesting, and you still get a world title match at every PPV. So what do you think will happen if Brock and Reigns do Title vs. Title at WM? Will it be like the Becky Two Belts deal where the champ defends two separate belts, or will there be one world champ with one belt defending the title on both brands?
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 2, 2022 9:40:50 GMT -5
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Feb 2, 2022 15:35:46 GMT -5
At WrestleMania, when Roman Reigns successfully defends the Universal Championship Title Belt and wins the World Championship Title Belt, he will bring back the Red strap and hold all 3 Championship Title Belts as the Undisputed WWE Champion of the Universe. Or Brock Lesnar wins, and takes the Championship Title Belts home, till SummerSlam. In the meantime, the Intercontinental and United States Championship Titles are then elevated as the "Main Event" scene for Raw and Smackdown.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Feb 2, 2022 15:43:08 GMT -5
I’d lowkey want them to unify the titles just so they could get rid of the current WWE belt. Imo, it’s long overdue to change the design. It’s just never looked good and looks more like a side plate or cheap ring rather than a prestigious wrestling belt. I don’t really watch AEW, but their belts look decent. As far as this event goes, I want Lashley vs Lesnar vs Reigns… winner takes all the gold to unify the belt.
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Post by CM Tusk on Feb 2, 2022 16:03:07 GMT -5
I’d be interested in them doing one championship again but I’m curious to see if the champ would work both shows. I admittedly want it too because I want to see the IC title become the second most important mens championship in the company again. Please get it back on Sami asap.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 2, 2022 16:52:48 GMT -5
I would love nothing more than one title. Two belts takes the the prestigue of the World title.
You can't the top champion if their is a second belt.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Feb 2, 2022 20:29:21 GMT -5
I’ll pass on unification angle unless the belts are treated separately
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 3, 2022 12:36:21 GMT -5
They’d always struggle to make a unified championship work unless they combined the rosters.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Feb 3, 2022 13:15:28 GMT -5
I would love nothing more than one title. Two belts takes the the prestigue of the World title. You can't the top champion if their is a second belt. And why watch the other brands show if they have no world title to defend? End the brand split? Well then why would I watch Smackdown if it’s just the same storylines I watched on Raw be carried over? There needs to be two belts which is the whole reason they brought back the WHC to begin with. How prestigious it is is built around how the belt is presented, the way the people that hold it treat it.
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 3, 2022 13:16:29 GMT -5
The problem is the WWE championship represents WWE ... but then when they added in WCW and Big Gold yadda yadda ... they gave that belt almost equal prestige. Then it morphed into whatever a "universal" champion is which seems larger than WWE champ. Just go dumb and have it Raw champ and Smackdown champ and let go of your pride and stop calling it WWE champ and whatever a universal champ is supposed to be.
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Post by Evil Abed on Feb 3, 2022 13:35:50 GMT -5
Id rather there just be two titles at this point. Im so tired of unifying and un-unifying titles just because the roster is either good or sucks in the given timeframe.
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Post by Hoobies on Feb 3, 2022 18:59:17 GMT -5
I think it would be two titles. Easy way to pop the ratings by having either Brock/Roman appearing on both shows but also gives an easy out to remove them from a show once they lose the one belt.
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Post by jking1979 on Feb 4, 2022 5:28:58 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns should have a bra and panties match at Wrestlemania.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 4, 2022 20:32:29 GMT -5
I would love nothing more than one title. Two belts takes the the prestigue of the World title. You can't the top champion if their is a second belt. And why watch the other brands show if they have no world title to defend? End the brand split? Well then why would I watch Smackdown if it’s just the same storylines I watched on Raw be carried over? There needs to be two belts which is the whole reason they brought back the WHC to begin with. How prestigious it is is built around how the belt is presented, the way the people that hold it treat it. Put it like this being the champion of a show doesn't hold the same power as being the champion of the company. Also the champ could appear on both shows, just like the Unified Tag champions did a decade ago.
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Feb 7, 2022 8:37:16 GMT -5
Whatever brings back the big gold belt.
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Post by robbutler01 on Feb 7, 2022 10:48:18 GMT -5
And why watch the other brands show if they have no world title to defend? End the brand split? Well then why would I watch Smackdown if it’s just the same storylines I watched on Raw be carried over? There needs to be two belts which is the whole reason they brought back the WHC to begin with. How prestigious it is is built around how the belt is presented, the way the people that hold it treat it. Put it like this being the champion of a show doesn't hold the same power as being the champion of the company. Also the champ could appear on both shows, just like the Unified Tag champions did a decade ago. Couldn't agree more. I would see it working like in the old nwa territories as others have said for years. Flair (or wwe/universal champ) was overall champion of the organisation and would go from one to another defending against the no 1 contender or top champ from that region (or show as it would be now). This would make the claim of being the wwe or universal champ mean something other than just being the champ of that show. You can't be considered the top guy in wwe or universe (urgh!) if ur only really the top guy on one show as far as I'm concerned. Plus then the forgotten IC and US belts might actually get a chance to mean something. And to go back on the point by tylerbreezee of why watch if there's no world champ. The reason to watch the show shouldn't be based on having a pretend "world" / TV brand champ on it. It should be because the show is well booked, entertaining and the stars are good enough to grab your support and interest.... oh wait wwe can't manage that lol
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Post by shanieomaniac on Feb 8, 2022 6:12:21 GMT -5
On one hand, I fully think it could work and that it would be great if done well.
But, as stated, the entire thing behind a world champion is really how they are booked and I hate to say it, but WWE's track record of booking champions as a whole has never been stellar. Roman is an outlier, I still remember when the WWE title was being passed around like a hotcake in the Attitude Era and none of the reigns really meant anything. I mean, look at Charlotte. She's what an 11 time champ at this point? After less than a decade in the company? That's not impressive, that means that you've lost the belt 10 times in that short a period of time.
Roman's reign (heh) is one of the best things they've got going on right now. It's compelling and and I love the storytelling to it. However, the company seems to have no idea what it's doing with the WWE title and really, I'm not sure I trust the WWE to pull off unifying the titles. It feels like something that would get very messy very quickly.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 8, 2022 11:44:44 GMT -5
If Brock and Roman do title vs. title, I would assume Roman is winning and will hold both belts for at least a few weeks. Similar to what they did with "Becky 2 Belts", I don't see them unifying them into one title, unless WWE wants to end the brand split, which I don't see happening.
Roman will just hold both titles until he loses one, likely the WWE title, because I see WWE wanting to continue his Universal Title run for as long as possible to set a record that they will likely never want to break. To keep Roman strong, I'm sure there will be heavy interference and controversy when he does lose the WWE title, and whomever his Universal Title challenger is can be the one to cost him the WWE title.
The whole company has essentially revolved around Roman Reigns since 2015, and it doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon. It is what it is.
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on Feb 8, 2022 11:55:39 GMT -5
No real point in pushing two World championships. No real point in having any championships outside of the one Head Cheese is holding on FOX. Everything else is secondary in their mind anyway.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 14, 2022 8:55:53 GMT -5
Have Reigns win both Titles but no unification. Maybe have Rollins beat Reigns for the WWE Title but have Reigns hold onto the Universal Title til Lesnar finally beats em for it.
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