TWJT
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Post by TWJT on Feb 17, 2022 8:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by Sizzle on Feb 17, 2022 12:51:09 GMT -5
I said it in the official AEW thread but I feel like he's going to have a similar role as a guy in a faction like he was with Seth and the Authors of Pain. He's not someone worthwhile enough to be a main event guy and considering the TNT Title trajectory, I don't see him winning that either. I think he'll go a very similar route to Andrade and Aleister Black where they do about the same thing they were doing in WWE (or in Andrade's case, less).
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Post by k5 on Feb 17, 2022 13:33:39 GMT -5
I said it in the official AEW thread but I feel like he's going to have a similar role as a guy in a faction like he was with Seth and the Authors of Pain. He's not someone worthwhile enough to be a main event guy and considering the TNT Title trajectory, I don't see him winning that either. I think he'll go a very similar route to Andrade and Aleister Black where they do about the same thing they were doing in WWE (or in Andrade's case, less). I think you’re confusing being potentially lost in the scramble (aew) to being blatantly miscasted and portrayed as a nothing talent (wwe). let me know when a talent bulldozes half the locker room like lesnar did at the rumble, then we can talk about how people are being used correctly or incorrectly in aew…
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Post by finnbalor1 on Feb 17, 2022 14:20:56 GMT -5
Buddy and Black together is very,very exciting
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 14:34:55 GMT -5
I like him. Maybe he won’t become just another guy like Andrade but only time will tell
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Post by Sizzle on Feb 17, 2022 16:20:37 GMT -5
I said it in the official AEW thread but I feel like he's going to have a similar role as a guy in a faction like he was with Seth and the Authors of Pain. He's not someone worthwhile enough to be a main event guy and considering the TNT Title trajectory, I don't see him winning that either. I think he'll go a very similar route to Andrade and Aleister Black where they do about the same thing they were doing in WWE (or in Andrade's case, less). I think you’re confusing being potentially lost in the scramble (aew) to being blatantly miscasted and portrayed as a nothing talent (wwe). let me know when a talent bulldozes half the locker room like lesnar did at the rumble, then we can talk about how people are being used correctly or incorrectly in aew… Andrade was treated better throughout his WWE run. NXT Champion, US Champion, Royal Rumble final four, Tag Team Title contender for the better part of his last year, plus the Zelina pairing which was great for both of them.
Same could be said for Aleister Black who did much of the same he's doing now: dominant squashes between higher profile feuds with a little occult peculiarity mixed in.
In Murphy's case I don't think he was ever truly miscast either. Long run as Cruiserweight Champion where he won the title in his home country, a prominent role on 205 Live with matches that allowed him to demonstrate his ability before he went to the main roster and feuded with Roman Reigns of all people before beating Daniel Bryan then winning the Tag Team titles. He was also involved in that eyepatch feud that went on throughout 2020.
None of those guys were ever portrayed as "nothing talents" during their time in WWE.
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Post by k5 on Feb 17, 2022 17:24:39 GMT -5
yeah they definitely were portrayed as nothing talents, as nothing can get in the way of brock/Roman/whatever other glass ceiling. people worried about how they’d do on the main rosters, and by the end of it aleister was a meme. they’re still consistently getting more screen time in aew than they did on main roster wwe.
aew being organic enough to allow anyone to potentiate is in and of itself better treatment
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Feb 17, 2022 18:57:27 GMT -5
Malakai, Brody, Buddy and PAC (along with Julia Hart)?
Sign me up!
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Post by McBlake on Feb 18, 2022 16:47:50 GMT -5
Hard to see how he doesn't get lost in the shuffle in AEW either. I hope to be proved wrong because he's a phenomenal talent, but I feel like this comes a bit too late to make a real impact.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Feb 24, 2022 17:19:32 GMT -5
I gotta be honest, I'm happy for Buddy Matthews, but this is just another guy on the roster. AEW is already at WCW level of bloated roster. You could literally cut half their roster at this point, and it'll still be too much. They only got two hours of Dynamite and an hour of Rampage. Dark and Dark Elevation are just there to boost the win-loss records, and put guys in 2-3 minutes.
Sorry for the rant when this thread is about Buddy Matthews. I'm glad he's with Malakai Black, so that's hope they got something decent going on
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 24, 2022 17:40:42 GMT -5
I gotta be honest, I'm happy for Buddy Matthews, but this is just another guy on the roster. AEW is already at WCW level of bloated roster. You could literally cut half their roster at this point, and it'll still be too much. They only got two hours of Dynamite and an hour of Rampage. Dark and Dark Elevation are just there to boost the win-loss records, and put guys in 2-3 minutes. Sorry for the rant when this thread is about Buddy Matthews. I'm glad he's with Malakai Black, so that's hope they got something decent going on I've said it before. Cut:
Aaron Solo Alan Angels Angelico Anthony Ogogo Brandon Cutler Brock Anderson Dustin Rhodes Frankie Kazarian Fuego Del Sol Jack Evans Jeff Parker Joey Janela Kip Sabian Lee Johnson Luther Matt Lee Mayy Sydal Michael Nakazawa Nick Comoroto Peter Avalon QT Marshall Sepentico Sonny Kiss
You know what you're left with? One of the best professional wrestling rosters ever. As for Dark? Let local talent and indie talent do per-show contracts. The AEW roster is bloated with crap. Of course you want to add Cesaro, Windham, Swerve, etc. but you have to get rid of the bloat.
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Post by k5 on Feb 24, 2022 18:38:53 GMT -5
I gotta be honest, I'm happy for Buddy Matthews, but this is just another guy on the roster. AEW is already at WCW level of bloated roster. You could literally cut half their roster at this point, and it'll still be too much. They only got two hours of Dynamite and an hour of Rampage. Dark and Dark Elevation are just there to boost the win-loss records, and put guys in 2-3 minutes. Sorry for the rant when this thread is about Buddy Matthews. I'm glad he's with Malakai Black, so that's hope they got something decent going on I've said it before. Cut: Aaron Solo Alan Angels Angelico Anthony Ogogo Brandon Cutler Brock Anderson Dustin Rhodes Frankie Kazarian Fuego Del Sol Jack Evans Jeff Parker Joey Janela Kip Sabian Lee Johnson Luther Matt Lee Mayy Sydal Michael Nakazawa Nick Comoroto Peter Avalon QT Marshall Sepentico Sonny Kiss You know what you're left with? One of the best professional wrestling rosters ever. As for Dark? Let local talent and indie talent do per-show contracts. The AEW roster is bloated with crap. Of course you want to add Cesaro, Windham, Swerve, etc. but you have to get rid of the bloat.
the majority of those guys aren’t featured regularly and aren’t taking the time away from the names getting ‘lost in the mix’ are talents misused in aew? sure, but once again, in comparison to wwe, they don’t just have meaningless nothing matches with the same guy for months on end in nowhere feuds before being used as comedy toys and disregarded. there’s a huge difference.
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Feb 24, 2022 20:23:22 GMT -5
I've said it before. Cut: Aaron Solo Alan Angels Angelico Anthony Ogogo Brandon Cutler Brock Anderson Dustin Rhodes Frankie Kazarian Fuego Del Sol Jack Evans Jeff Parker Joey Janela Kip Sabian Lee Johnson Luther Matt Lee Mayy Sydal Michael Nakazawa Nick Comoroto Peter Avalon QT Marshall Sepentico Sonny Kiss You know what you're left with? One of the best professional wrestling rosters ever. As for Dark? Let local talent and indie talent do per-show contracts. The AEW roster is bloated with crap. Of course you want to add Cesaro, Windham, Swerve, etc. but you have to get rid of the bloat.
the majority of those guys aren’t featured regularly and aren’t taking the time away from the names getting ‘lost in the mix’ are talents misused in aew? sure, but once again, in comparison to wwe, they don’t just have meaningless nothing matches with the same guy for months on end in nowhere feuds before being used as comedy toys and disregarded. there’s a huge difference. But TK can't afford the nobodies and the star free agents. Cut the clutter, and just have a stacked roster. That way every match is great.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 22:35:02 GMT -5
We don't know what contracts many of those are on. Ie serpentico does Spanish commentary, Dustin coaches the women's division, etc. Some of those guys are getting paid for other reasons and just happen to wrestle. Not all, but some. I'm sure a fair amount in that list are on part time contracts, some of which aren't going to be renewed. Plus, the Cody bucks gotta free up some $$!
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Feb 25, 2022 7:13:45 GMT -5
You get rid of all your “lesser known talent” and you end up with guys like Andrade eating pins for other talents on a weekly basis.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Feb 25, 2022 8:10:38 GMT -5
You get rid of all your “lesser known talent” and you end up with guys like Andrade eating pins for other talents on a weekly basis. There needs to be a balance in every company. AEW hasn't found that yet
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Feb 25, 2022 8:15:05 GMT -5
You get rid of all your “lesser known talent” and you end up with guys like Andrade eating pins for other talents on a weekly basis. There needs to be a balance in every company. AEW hasn't found that yet It feels like they wanna be what Ring of Honor and TNA were in 2002-2004, with the quality of the wrestling… but they wanna build talent like it’s the 90’s. Sadly, in this era, you can’t do both.
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Post by k5 on Feb 25, 2022 10:53:09 GMT -5
the majority of those guys aren’t featured regularly and aren’t taking the time away from the names getting ‘lost in the mix’ are talents misused in aew? sure, but once again, in comparison to wwe, they don’t just have meaningless nothing matches with the same guy for months on end in nowhere feuds before being used as comedy toys and disregarded. there’s a huge difference. But TK can't afford the nobodies and the star free agents. Cut the clutter, and just have a stacked roster. That way every match is great. how do you possibly know what tk can afford? this thread is goofy. the roster isn’t the issue with aew’s talent presentation, it’s a lack of organization leading to stalemates (jay lethal) or misused/inconsistently used characters. serpentico is taking zero screen time from anyone overall.
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CymruX2
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Post by CymruX2 on Mar 2, 2022 10:04:56 GMT -5
it's all well and good saying get rid if Nakazawa etc but they're only used as enhancement talent, while also having quite important roles in company functionality backstage.
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