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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Feb 24, 2022 21:45:12 GMT -5
I’m not surprised. Pretty soon WWE will have like 5 guys on their roster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 22:37:03 GMT -5
Very excited to see him wherever he goes. He may not be a talker but he's a magician in the ring and I'm excited to see him with less production and more him.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 24, 2022 23:42:21 GMT -5
Imagine seeing Cesaro in NJPW and working the G1 next year. This needs to happen.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Feb 25, 2022 0:24:01 GMT -5
Imagine seeing Cesaro in NJPW and working the G1 next year. This needs to happen. I was watching Don Tony and Solomonster talk about this, and I agree with you and Solomonster, Cesaro in a G1 would be awesome
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 0:32:20 GMT -5
Imagine seeing Cesaro in NJPW and working the G1 next year. This needs to happen. I was watching Don Tony and Solomonster talk about this, and I agree with you and Solomonster, Cesaro in a G1 would be awesome We could get him and the American Dragon in the g1 in the same year.... Jesus.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Feb 25, 2022 12:24:25 GMT -5
damn shame wwe saw nothing in the guy, he could've easily been top guy if given the chance
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Post by Sizzle on Feb 25, 2022 13:23:10 GMT -5
So apparently he didn't want to leave WWE and WWE doesn't want him gone... This is sounding more and more like a Drew Gulak situation albeit much greater outside interest. It'll be interesting to see how things pan out in the coming weeks.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Feb 25, 2022 13:25:57 GMT -5
So apparently he didn't want to leave WWE and WWE doesn't want him gone... This is sounding more and more like a Drew Gulak situation albeit much greater outside interest. It'll be interesting to see how things pan out in the coming weeks. I read that, he wanted more money, they weren’t really interested in giving him more. They offered him the same contract he is on now.
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Feb 25, 2022 13:26:05 GMT -5
damn shame wwe saw nothing in the guy, he could've easily been top guy if given the chance In that case, anyone can be the top guy. Cesaro is a fantastic wrestler in that ring, undoubtedly. He has a major problem that many seem to share in pro wrestling nowadays. That being the lack of ability to deliver a convincing promo. He just never seemed comfortable whilst speaking into a microphone. A top guy needs that ability, plain and simple. You’ve gotta be able to promote yourself well enough to convince people to watch whatever it is you’re involved in. He can’t do that. I’m hoping to see him pop up elsewhere, but let’s not pretend that he was anything more than he is, which is a great wrestler in that ring with a serious lack of charisma.
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Post by Sizzle on Feb 25, 2022 13:30:01 GMT -5
So apparently he didn't want to leave WWE and WWE doesn't want him gone... This is sounding more and more like a Drew Gulak situation albeit much greater outside interest. It'll be interesting to see how things pan out in the coming weeks. I read that, he wanted more money, they weren’t really interested in giving him more. They offered him the same contract he is on now. I could see it go either way to be fair. He's definitely of value to WWE in more than just an in-ring aspect, but he knows he can make more and is probably using it as leverage. I hope he does get paid more to be fair. He's definitely in that Owens/Zayn tier of guys who at this point seem like lifers. damn shame wwe saw nothing in the guy, he could've easily been top guy if given the chance In that case, anyone can be the top guy. Cesaro is a fantastic wrestler in that ring, undoubtedly. He has a major problem that many seem to share in pro wrestling nowadays. That being the lack of ability to deliver a convincing promo. He just never seemed comfortable whilst speaking into a microphone. A top guy needs that ability, plain and simple. You’ve gotta be able to promote yourself well enough to convince people to watch whatever it is you’re involved in. He can’t do that. I’m hoping to see him pop up elsewhere, but let’s not pretend that he was anything more than he is, which is a great wrestler in that ring with a serious lack of charisma. I feel like the recent feud with Reigns, however great I thought it was, actually kind of exposed him in that regard. Reigns looks like a legit true star and can present himself as such with a manager and by comparison, Cesaro couldn't really live up to that (even though I think the way he carries himself makes him seem legitimate).
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Feb 25, 2022 14:04:09 GMT -5
Seeing the people that this company thinks has star power has really put the entire main roster in perspective for me. I think the current NXT roster is just atrocious minus a few special guys. If that roster is what WWE thinks is going to be the future, I get why they'd let Cesaro go. I am sure they're going to continue letting people go who fans love.
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Post by McBlake on Feb 25, 2022 15:25:49 GMT -5
If only he good deliver a good promo in one of those 5 languages.
He's an incredible talent and genuinely THE nicest wrestler I've ever met but he was never making it in a Vince McMahon run WWE.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Feb 25, 2022 15:32:39 GMT -5
damn shame wwe saw nothing in the guy, he could've easily been top guy if given the chance In that case, anyone can be the top guy. Cesaro is a fantastic wrestler in that ring, undoubtedly. He has a major problem that many seem to share in pro wrestling nowadays. That being the lack of ability to deliver a convincing promo. He just never seemed comfortable whilst speaking into a microphone. A top guy needs that ability, plain and simple. You’ve gotta be able to promote yourself well enough to convince people to watch whatever it is you’re involved in. He can’t do that. I’m hoping to see him pop up elsewhere, but let’s not pretend that he was anything more than he is, which is a great wrestler in that ring with a serious lack of charisma. Meh, Lack of promo skills can be easily fixed up with a manager, just have someone speak for Him and Cesaro can do his thing in the ring, also hes shown charisma in the past
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Feb 25, 2022 16:17:50 GMT -5
In that case, anyone can be the top guy. Cesaro is a fantastic wrestler in that ring, undoubtedly. He has a major problem that many seem to share in pro wrestling nowadays. That being the lack of ability to deliver a convincing promo. He just never seemed comfortable whilst speaking into a microphone. A top guy needs that ability, plain and simple. You’ve gotta be able to promote yourself well enough to convince people to watch whatever it is you’re involved in. He can’t do that. I’m hoping to see him pop up elsewhere, but let’s not pretend that he was anything more than he is, which is a great wrestler in that ring with a serious lack of charisma. Meh, Lack of promo skills can be easily fixed up with a manager, just have someone speak for Him and Cesaro can do his thing in the ring, also hes shown charisma in the past If it was the 80s in the era of the manager that may be possible. But Managers seem to be a lost art in wrestling. I suppose we’ll see his ceiling outside of WWE in the near future. If he gets booked at the top and carries programs successfully I’ll eat my words. All the best!
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 25, 2022 17:17:55 GMT -5
damn shame wwe saw nothing in the guy, he could've easily been top guy if given the chance In that case, anyone can be the top guy. Cesaro is a fantastic wrestler in that ring, undoubtedly. He has a major problem that many seem to share in pro wrestling nowadays. That being the lack of ability to deliver a convincing promo. He just never seemed comfortable whilst speaking into a microphone. A top guy needs that ability, plain and simple. You’ve gotta be able to promote yourself well enough to convince people to watch whatever it is you’re involved in. He can’t do that. I’m hoping to see him pop up elsewhere, but let’s not pretend that he was anything more than he is, which is a great wrestler in that ring with a serious lack of charisma. Bret wasn’t a great speaker until 1997. Nobody would list Benoit or Brock as some of the best promos ever. Yet they got over with their presentation and in-ring skills. Cesaro could have fit that. Heck, they even gave him Paul Heyman, yet we quickly found out that was only as a way to keep Heyman on TV talking about Brock. It was never designed to benefit Cesaro.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Feb 25, 2022 17:49:47 GMT -5
In that case, anyone can be the top guy. Cesaro is a fantastic wrestler in that ring, undoubtedly. He has a major problem that many seem to share in pro wrestling nowadays. That being the lack of ability to deliver a convincing promo. He just never seemed comfortable whilst speaking into a microphone. A top guy needs that ability, plain and simple. You’ve gotta be able to promote yourself well enough to convince people to watch whatever it is you’re involved in. He can’t do that. I’m hoping to see him pop up elsewhere, but let’s not pretend that he was anything more than he is, which is a great wrestler in that ring with a serious lack of charisma. Bret wasn’t a great speaker until 1997. Nobody would list Benoit or Brock as some of the best promos ever. Yet they got over with their presentation and in-ring skills. Cesaro could have fit that. Heck, they even gave him Paul Heyman, yet we quickly found out that was only as a way to keep Heyman on TV talking about Brock. It was never designed to benefit Cesaro. Brock has a one of a kind presence that No could replicate. And I mean Cesaro is a great worker but he is not close to the worker the other two are. Also, Bret turned into a hell of a promo in 97 but he was decent before that. He wasn’t amazing but he had his one or two promos that he did well.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Feb 25, 2022 18:07:45 GMT -5
Bret was horrible on the mic, even in 1997.
“Boy toy, you’re an American and you stink. I’m calling you out right now.”
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Feb 25, 2022 18:07:48 GMT -5
In that case, anyone can be the top guy. Cesaro is a fantastic wrestler in that ring, undoubtedly. He has a major problem that many seem to share in pro wrestling nowadays. That being the lack of ability to deliver a convincing promo. He just never seemed comfortable whilst speaking into a microphone. A top guy needs that ability, plain and simple. You’ve gotta be able to promote yourself well enough to convince people to watch whatever it is you’re involved in. He can’t do that. I’m hoping to see him pop up elsewhere, but let’s not pretend that he was anything more than he is, which is a great wrestler in that ring with a serious lack of charisma. Bret wasn’t a great speaker until 1997. Nobody would list Benoit or Brock as some of the best promos ever. Yet they got over with their presentation and in-ring skills. Cesaro could have fit that. Heck, they even gave him Paul Heyman, yet we quickly found out that was only as a way to keep Heyman on TV talking about Brock. It was never designed to benefit Cesaro. Fair enough. Brock is chalked full of charisma. Benoit had an intensity that was all too real. Bret spoke with conviction. Cesaro is great as a wrestler in that ring, no doubt. He just doesn’t have the charisma, conviction or intensity needed to be at the top of a card. Supreme talent in the ring, but I think his ceiling was reached in WWE.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 25, 2022 20:40:50 GMT -5
He just doesn’t have the charisma, conviction or intensity needed to be at the top of a card. That’s pretty much it. He could sell tickets to an indie event, but he’s never going to carry a TV show.
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Post by Crane on Feb 25, 2022 20:44:40 GMT -5
It's crazy to me how Cesaro didn't win another singles title after his US Title reign in 2012-13. He consistently had good matches and was one of the hottest stars on the main roster in 2015. He should have been the one to take the US Title off Cena during the weekly US Open Challenges, not Alberto Del Rio.
While I loved The Bar, that Best of 7 Series final at Clash of Champions 2016 should have led to a Hell in a Cell match with Sheamus at the following PPV. Maybe whoever went on to face Owens could've lost and then they still formed a team based on mutual respect earned from the series, not just being forced together like they were.
I think the only misuse of Cesaro was making him a Paul Heyman guy, then doing absolutely nothing with that. Like, I literally cannot think of a single thing they did together after they united, besides the match with Sheamus at Payback 2014, which Cesaro lost. (Looked it up and the Heyman partnership lasted from April 7th - July 21st in 2014. He proceeded to go on a losing streak after this.) Also, his booking post Wrestlemania: Backlash last year. He once again went on a losing streak after that match with Reigns. He won two matches in that entire span from last year to his exit from WWE.
I kind of hope he goes to NJPW instead of AEW so he can face guys like Ishii or Cobb, but I have to say Cesaro climbing the ladder and grabbing the brass ring, then going on to defeat Sammy Guevara for the TNT Title would be a nice catharsis of sorts.
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