TWJT
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Post by TWJT on Mar 17, 2022 11:14:55 GMT -5
I think we all agree that The Rock is the biggest star to ever emerge from the pro wrestling industry, but before him was the man who is still arguably #2, Hulk Hogan.
But my question is...is Cena getting close to surpassing Hogan? With The Peacemaker, other films, and generally becoming a household name known to even non-wrestling fans, I feel like we may be closing in on Cena being considered a bigger star than Hulk Hogan.
Is Cena getting close to surpassing Hogan in star power?
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 17, 2022 12:46:14 GMT -5
In terms of actual current star power, Cena is way above Hogan. Cena’s in major movies and is the lead in his own critically-acclaimed, wildly popular superhero series.
The Hulkster hasn’t had a major wrestling match in around fifteen years, and hasn’t done much outside of wrestling in that timeframe either (except for the tape and the racism). He’s an old man, and while memes and stuff keep his name still known, Thunder in Paradise was never on the pop culture radar like Peacemaker was.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 17, 2022 12:58:35 GMT -5
Hogan accomplished more in the wrestling industry.
Cena has done more outside and sold more merchandise.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 17, 2022 13:26:02 GMT -5
This one is hard to say tbh... all I know is Hogan Cena Rock Austin are the 4 biggest stars in wrestling & sports entertainment history and there are way too many honourable mentions to name.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Mar 17, 2022 13:35:28 GMT -5
He's baby Hogan. Hogan is like God. But John is Jesus.
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The Real Chillary
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Post by The Real Chillary on Mar 17, 2022 13:37:29 GMT -5
This one is hard to say tbh... all I know is Hogan Cena Rock Austin are the 4 biggest stars in wrestling & sports entertainment history and there are way too many honourable mentions to name. I'd argue that Andre is tied with Austin. Austin had the bigger impact in wrestling, but outside of the bubble Andre and Piper had more reach. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 17, 2022 15:49:55 GMT -5
Cena's way bigger than Hogan.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 17, 2022 15:56:35 GMT -5
This one is hard to say tbh... all I know is Hogan Cena Rock Austin are the 4 biggest stars in wrestling & sports entertainment history and there are way too many honourable mentions to name. I have sammartino, hogan, stone cold and cena as the mount Rushmore of wrestling. |
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Mar 17, 2022 16:29:30 GMT -5
Cena is bigger NOW for sure. But compare Hogan's high to Cena's high? No contest. Hogan destroys him.
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Post by CM Tusk on Mar 17, 2022 17:35:29 GMT -5
It’s tricky because if we are talking “box office” Batista is technically bigger than both Cena and Hogan.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 17, 2022 18:41:26 GMT -5
I have no idea, I haven’t watched anything outside of wrestling that Cena is in. What about Batista? Wouldn’t he count as a Hollywood break in star? I think people also really like Batista as far as acting goes. I would be interesting in seeing him as Bane in a Batman movie.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 17, 2022 20:27:54 GMT -5
I have no idea, I haven’t watched anything outside of wrestling that Cena is in. What about Batista? Wouldn’t he count as a Hollywood break in star? I think people also really like Batista as far as acting goes. I would be interesting in seeing him as Bane in a Batman movie. Batista has gotten rave reviews even for movies that were absolutely terrible (Scorpion King 3, Man with the Iron Fists, Kickboxer Vengeance). He took those roles because his acting career had to start somewhere. |
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Post by k5 on Mar 17, 2022 21:51:38 GMT -5
when you judge the size of the business to the performer in it, cena doesn't even glimpse hogan's impact. but sure, cena is currently more recognized as hogan comes from a previous era.
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fishhook36
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Post by fishhook36 on Mar 17, 2022 22:21:59 GMT -5
Haha John Cena bigger than Hulk Hogan what a joke. Hulk changed wrestling as both a heel and a face.when Cena has that impact get back to me.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 18, 2022 2:06:34 GMT -5
Haha John Cena bigger than Hulk Hogan what a joke. Hulk changed wrestling as both a heel and a face.when Cena has that impact get back to me. That isn't remotely what he even said. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 18, 2022 11:10:20 GMT -5
This one is hard to say tbh... all I know is Hogan Cena Rock Austin are the 4 biggest stars in wrestling & sports entertainment history and there are way too many honourable mentions to name. I have sammartino, hogan, stone cold and cena as the mount Rushmore of wrestling. Good list. There are too many names that could also deserve a spot but I’d leave em as honourable mentions. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Mar 18, 2022 11:11:06 GMT -5
This one is hard to say tbh... all I know is Hogan Cena Rock Austin are the 4 biggest stars in wrestling & sports entertainment history and there are way too many honourable mentions to name. I'd argue that Andre is tied with Austin. Austin had the bigger impact in wrestling, but outside of the bubble Andre and Piper had more reach. I agree with Andre & Piper and maybe Macho Man & Batista as well |
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 18, 2022 11:54:47 GMT -5
Its kinda hard to evaluate something like this. Hogan is/was the biggest star in wrestling but he's just a bleep in Hollywood. Someone like The Rock was big in wrestling & Hollywood but he's also been in Hollywood so long that majority of people know he was a wrestler but if you're not an actual wrestling fan probably couldn't name anything he did in the business.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 18, 2022 12:05:53 GMT -5
Nobody is ever touching Hulk. It's just not possible. Hulk was on top at a time when this stuff mattered. Hogan affected people. WWE now, and pretty much since 2001, it's just a show. They are people playing roles. It's like going to a concert, or a play, you are going to be entertained.
I don't know how many people on here were even alive and fans at Wrestlemania 7, but this was like real life. If Hogan lost, the United States was losing the war to Iraq. That's how it felt. People wanted Slaughter dead. Hogan represented the entire country.....you can't get that kind of emotion from fans these days because kayfabe is dead and people know it's all part of the show.
Even MJF, who is undoubtedly the BEST heel in the business right now...when he says and does evil things, the fans pop for it. People tune in specifically to see what he's going to do or say and fans cheer and laugh. Nobody is waiting in the parking lot to stab him or calling AEW HQ with death threats on MJF.
When Slaughter joined Iraq, nobody was laughing. Nobody was entertained. It was a treasonous betrayal....Hogan was defending America and that's legit how it felt and people believed and it seriously affected people.
So no. Cena is not, never will be, and nobody else will ever surpass Hulk Hogan. And when Hulk joined the nWo, it mattered. Now, people turn heel and face every few months and nobody really cares. Jericho turned heel and the fans still sang his song this week.
John Cena could legit come out on TV and knock over Becky Lynch's baby stroller, and people would laugh instead of getting upset.
Cena is bigger in Hollywood than Hogan is....but I don't think that translates to overcoming Hogan's overall "star power". Like somebody pointed out, Batista is technically a bigger box office draw than Cena, but I don't consider Batista to be a name "everyone knows". Everyone knows Hulk. A lot of people know Cena, but EVERYBODY knows Hogan.
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Post by casanova on Mar 18, 2022 12:39:53 GMT -5
No mention of The Rock? He must be way above Hogan and Cena.
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Hogan VS Flair
