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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 7, 2022 18:19:50 GMT -5
I’ll be honest. I didn’t even know who this guy was until today. I agree with what some people said about the time frame. You don’t know what people go through until you’re in the same position. She could have easily been scared or going through a mental breakdown and not know what to do. I was in a similar position a while ago, where I was completely lost in a situation and didn’t speak up out of fear. Lesson learned, you only have yourself in this world.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Apr 7, 2022 18:53:17 GMT -5
Man, there's alot of victim blaming going on in this thread. Behaviour like this is why victims don't come forward when stuff like this happens. Who cares if she waited a year to come out with it? Who cares if he is divorcing her and the pics came out now? If the situation is as bad as they say (which it more than likely is) he deserves to be fired. You guys are giving him a pass because he's a flippy midget you're a fan of. Do better, Wfigs. Nah, this is America. Innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty on he said/she said nonsense. As others (almost everyone) has said, if true… he deserves everything coming to him. Keyword: IF
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Post by kinnikuman on Apr 7, 2022 19:01:53 GMT -5
Man, there's alot of victim blaming going on in this thread. Behaviour like this is why victims don't come forward when stuff like this happens. Who cares if she waited a year to come out with it? Who cares if he is divorcing her and the pics came out now? If the situation is as bad as they say (which it more than likely is) he deserves to be fired. You guys are giving him a pass because he's a flippy midget you're a fan of. Do better, Wfigs. And the proof he did it is where now? Her ... tweet? Do better, Chunk.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 19:18:04 GMT -5
I’ll be honest. I didn’t even know who this guy was until today. I agree with what some people said about the time frame. You don’t know what people go through until you’re in the same position. She could have easily been scared or going through a mental breakdown and not know what to do. I was in a similar position a while ago, where I was completely lost in a situation and didn’t speak up out of fear. Lesson learned, you only have yourself in this world. We can look to that exact idea with the Nassar case. Some of those people had been holding onto it for over 2 decades! The early ones that did speak up essentially got shut down by the people in positions of power. It was only after a couple of the accusations started to gain traction that others began to feel comfortable going forward.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 7, 2022 20:16:07 GMT -5
Man, there's alot of victim blaming going on in this thread. Behaviour like this is why victims don't come forward when stuff like this happens. Who cares if she waited a year to come out with it? Who cares if he is divorcing her and the pics came out now? If the situation is as bad as they say (which it more than likely is) he deserves to be fired. You guys are giving him a pass because he's a flippy midget you're a fan of. Do better, Wfigs. Nah, this is America. Innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty on he said/she said nonsense. As others (almost everyone) has said, if true… he deserves everything coming to him. Keyword: IF That doesn't invalidate anything I said.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 7, 2022 20:17:00 GMT -5
Man, there's alot of victim blaming going on in this thread. Behaviour like this is why victims don't come forward when stuff like this happens. Who cares if she waited a year to come out with it? Who cares if he is divorcing her and the pics came out now? If the situation is as bad as they say (which it more than likely is) he deserves to be fired. You guys are giving him a pass because he's a flippy midget you're a fan of. Do better, Wfigs. And the proof he did it is where now? Her ... tweet? Do better, Chunk. This right here is why victims never come forward with anything. You are immediately calling her a liar.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Apr 7, 2022 20:24:32 GMT -5
Nah, this is America. Innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty on he said/she said nonsense. As others (almost everyone) has said, if true… he deserves everything coming to him. Keyword: IF That doesn't invalidate anything I said. Oh, it most definitely does. Nobody is giving anyone a “pass”. The situation is that nobody knows any facts (nor probably ever will) so you can’t cast judgment based off of non-concrete evidence. It’s all he said/she said. You continue to claim that everyone is calling her a liar and that he is innocent. Which isn’t true. Majority of these comments have simply pointed out that outside of her word versus his (or Desmond’s wife, rather)… nothing has be proven as fact. More simple hypothetical opinions on the matter. Perfect example above. He said “Where is her proof? Her tweets?” and you accused him of immediately calling her a liar. When in reality he’s pointing out that one side of a story isn’t always evidence or fact.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 7, 2022 20:31:38 GMT -5
That doesn't invalidate anything I said. Oh, it most definitely does. Nobody is giving anyone a “pass”. The situation is that nobody knows any facts (nor probably ever will) so you can’t cast judgment based off of non-concrete evidence. It’s all he said/she said. You continue to claim that everyone is calling her a liar and that he is innocent. Which isn’t true. Majority of these comments have simply pointed out that outside of her word versus his (or Desmond’s wife, rather)… nothing has be proven as fact. More simple hypothetical opinions on the matter. Perfect example above. He said “Where is her proof? Her tweets?” and you accused him of immediately calling her a liar. When in reality he’s pointing out that one side of a story isn’t always evidence or fact. I disagree. He IS calling her a liar. He's saying she doesn't have proof of her claims, so if he isn't calling her a liar, what is he saying? Wfigs has a horrible track record when it comes to stuff like this. There are still people here that think Dream is innocent even after the overwhelming evidence against him surfaced. Also, the guy thinks Hitler is funny. It's not far fetched to see how he could beat his wife. EDIT: There's like 5 comments on the first page of this thread alone calling her a liar. So obviously people here think she's full of crap.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Apr 7, 2022 20:41:03 GMT -5
Oh, it most definitely does. Nobody is giving anyone a “pass”. The situation is that nobody knows any facts (nor probably ever will) so you can’t cast judgment based off of non-concrete evidence. It’s all he said/she said. You continue to claim that everyone is calling her a liar and that he is innocent. Which isn’t true. Majority of these comments have simply pointed out that outside of her word versus his (or Desmond’s wife, rather)… nothing has be proven as fact. More simple hypothetical opinions on the matter. Perfect example above. He said “Where is her proof? Her tweets?” and you accused him of immediately calling her a liar. When in reality he’s pointing out that one side of a story isn’t always evidence or fact. I disagree. He IS calling her a liar. He's saying she doesn't have proof of her claims, so if he isn't calling her a liar, what is he saying? Wfigs has a horrible track record when it comes to stuff like this. There are still people here that think Dream is innocent even after the overwhelming evidence against him surfaced. Also, the guy thinks Hitler is funny. It's not far fetched to see how he could beat his wife. He’s stating that without complete evidence, it’s just her word. Something that wouldn’t hold up in court. Reason being… there’s no actual proof that he did what she claims he did. No judge or jury would look at a picture and hear a story and go “Welp, that’s all the evidence I needed to see. Case closed.” My personal opinion, I think they’re both nuts. What truly happened? No idea. Nobody here knows though, that’s for sure.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Apr 7, 2022 20:47:06 GMT -5
EDIT: There's like 5 comments on the first page of this thread alone calling her a liar. So obviously people here think she's full of crap. I just re-read every comment on this thread. I counted 2-3 that said they believe she’s a liar, or sounds like a liar… based off of the tweets/pictures/story from Desmond’s wife. But I’m done debating this.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 7, 2022 20:53:04 GMT -5
I disagree. He IS calling her a liar. He's saying she doesn't have proof of her claims, so if he isn't calling her a liar, what is he saying? Wfigs has a horrible track record when it comes to stuff like this. There are still people here that think Dream is innocent even after the overwhelming evidence against him surfaced. Also, the guy thinks Hitler is funny. It's not far fetched to see how he could beat his wife. He’s stating that without complete evidence, it’s just her word. Something that wouldn’t hold up in court. Reason being… there’s no actual proof that he did what she claims he did. No judge or jury would look at a picture and hear a story and go “Welp, that’s all the evidence I needed to see. Case closed.” My personal opinion, I think they’re both nuts. What truly happened? No idea. Nobody here knows though, that’s for sure. His statement on the first page implies that she's lying because she sat on it for a year without going to the police. There are hundreds of reasons that someone doesn't go to the police.
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Post by k5 on Apr 7, 2022 20:55:52 GMT -5
Oh, it most definitely does. Nobody is giving anyone a “pass”. The situation is that nobody knows any facts (nor probably ever will) so you can’t cast judgment based off of non-concrete evidence. It’s all he said/she said. You continue to claim that everyone is calling her a liar and that he is innocent. Which isn’t true. Majority of these comments have simply pointed out that outside of her word versus his (or Desmond’s wife, rather)… nothing has be proven as fact. More simple hypothetical opinions on the matter. Perfect example above. He said “Where is her proof? Her tweets?” and you accused him of immediately calling her a liar. When in reality he’s pointing out that one side of a story isn’t always evidence or fact. I disagree. He IS calling her a liar. He's saying she doesn't have proof of her claims, so if he isn't calling her a liar, what is he saying? Wfigs has a horrible track record when it comes to stuff like this. There are still people here that think Dream is innocent even after the overwhelming evidence against him surfaced. Also, the guy thinks Hitler is funny. It's not far fetched to see how he could beat his wife. EDIT: There's like 5 comments on the first page of this thread alone calling her a liar. So obviously people here think she's full of crap. you lost any credibility in the argument with this ridiculous take lol
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 7, 2022 21:18:38 GMT -5
Yup looking like 100% the Hitler photo.
They did what they had to do given how expendable he is. Definitely not worth the possible backlash. I don’t know, maybe don’t do racist sh**, even as a joke. Guess I skipped that phase in my youth.
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Post by k5 on Apr 7, 2022 21:32:18 GMT -5
Yup looking like 100% the Hitler photo. They did what they had to do given how expendable he is. Definitely not worth the possible backlash. I don’t know, maybe don’t do racist sh**, even as a joke. Guess I skipped that phase in my youth. you mustn’t of ever enjoyed South Park then
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 21:35:28 GMT -5
Yup looking like 100% the Hitler photo. They did what they had to do given how expendable he is. Definitely not worth the possible backlash. I don’t know, maybe don’t do racist sh**, even as a joke. Guess I skipped that phase in my youth. you mustn’t of ever enjoyed South Park then Lmao I remember back in like 98 or something when South Park was still very new, there was a website where a dude drew all the WCW and WWF guys South park style. It was awesome and 10 year old me definitely did the same.
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 7, 2022 21:45:00 GMT -5
you mustn’t of ever enjoyed South Park then Lmao I remember back in like 98 or something when South Park was still very new, there was a website where a dude drew all the WCW and WWF guys South park style. It was awesome and 10 year old me definitely did the same. Used to check out probably the same site all the time. It was such an odd connection but I was into it. Also there is a difference in watching satire and comedies and making yourself look like Hitler or throwing out racial slurs for a laugh. This dude took the time to shave into that mustache, comb his hair over, and throw up the salute and took a photo. He may have out grown this level of immaturity, but any company would have rightfully taken immediate action. No different than the Kendrick situation in AEW.
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Post by Scott! on Apr 7, 2022 21:51:45 GMT -5
The whole situations a proper mess. I will say that if he did abuse/hit his wife then yeah, I understand why the reaction would be that they didn't want the bad press of having still kept him employed. The only thing with that is, if he didn't and they've fired him without any proof other than that picture she posted then it does seem incredibly harsh on the guy. Not gonna defend him if it's true, but if it's not then I actually have sympathy for the guy.
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Post by k5 on Apr 7, 2022 21:52:25 GMT -5
I’m not debating if it was ignorant of him or that wwe made the decision they had to (I don’t blame them), only that if we’re going to personally lambast someone, maybe we shouldn’t be enjoying humour derived from similar intent.
and considering beyond the mat mentioned how the only thing rivalling the wwf in 1998 with merchandise sales for the age demographic of young males was South Park, it was culturally aligned for the South Park/wwf drawings. I used to have a bunch saved on a floppy disc. we’re old. lol
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 7, 2022 22:44:07 GMT -5
Wait....he got fired for shaving his stache like Hitler & then taking a pic of it...sending it privately to his GF who years later decides to post it pubic?
He didnt do anything like actually promote hate, propaganda or I dunno kill 6 million Jewish people....Just took a photo?
BTW when I shave I make a shaving cream stache like Hulk Hogan and cut promos in front of the mirror...Nobody please get me fired.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Apr 8, 2022 0:45:04 GMT -5
BTW when I shave I make a shaving cream stache like Hulk Hogan and cut promos in front of the mirror...Nobody please get me fired. As long as you're not an expert at something your employer doesn't like or weren't brought in by someone your boss now despises, I'm sure you'll be fine 😉
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