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Post by Grenouille on Apr 29, 2022 22:28:35 GMT -5
Dakota Kai is an interesting one because she had a few dark tryout matches recently but I guess those didn't go too well for her and she never got brought onto the main roster. I can't say I ever became a fan of her or anything and I've always felt like she was always overshadowed by her contemporaries.This is the biggest thing with her even though I find her work very solid. If she is continually overshadowed by fellow NXTers on the main roster she’d have no chance. At the end of the day she’s been in developmental since 2017. It was probably best for both parties to call it good at this point. I could see her do well with Stardom in Japan.
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Post by Sizzle on Apr 29, 2022 23:09:08 GMT -5
Dakota Kai is an interesting one because she had a few dark tryout matches recently but I guess those didn't go too well for her and she never got brought onto the main roster. I can't say I ever became a fan of her or anything and I've always felt like she was always overshadowed by her contemporaries.This is the biggest thing with her even though I find her work very solid. If she is continually overshadowed by fellow NXTers on the main roster she’d have no chance. At the end of the day she’s been in developmental since 2017. It was probably best for both parties to call it good at this point. I could see her do well with Stardom in Japan. It's completely reasonable. She herself wasn't going to renew from what I've seen too. With how good WWE's women's division is at the moment I have a hard time seeing her reach the heights of some of those women as she never even got to the top of NXT.
I wish her the best wherever she lands.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Apr 30, 2022 0:49:58 GMT -5
Still monumentally absurd that WWE sees more in Lacey Evans and Raquel Gonzalez than Dakota Kai.
That's not a call to fire them instead, nobody should lose their job, it just sucks that creative apparently "has more" for those two bland charisma vacuums and other bland charisma vacuums like Theory than an actually good promo and worker in Dakota.
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Post by robbutler01 on Apr 30, 2022 3:22:59 GMT -5
While its a shame that people are let go when they have potential and don't get chance to show it it's really always been the same. People used to be signed to a contract for a wrestling group, work that period and then leave for somewhere new or if they were really popular and doing well renew they would resign for longer. There was no "job for life" in one wrestling group for most people. Look at flair joining wwf in 91, lod in 90, jarret joining wcw and of the times he did. None of them joined for life , just a few years that they were offered on the agreement at that time. it's just the nature of what they do being a wrestler. People need the chance and incentive to evolve and move and that is what happens like this otherwise they get stale and repetitive, jobbed out or sit in catering as there is nothing else to do. Taker, shawn and others were wwf lifers which was due to their legacy and track record and that makes them stand out. Even Hogan had his big wwf run then is act got old and an stale so went to wcw and reinvented himself. I know they are big names but look at people like cardona, cody and so many others that do the same. As much as its a shame to see the spring cleaning when it happens from a "they never had a fair chance" point of view I don't think you can sign that many people and keep them on just because it's not nice to loose a job. The biggest failure is like it has been for many years - wwe creative as many here have said. They have no ideas, mo long term booking plans and regularly fumble what should be easy made stars. Good luck again to all that have been let go and if any of themet have "it" they will get a chance somewhere else and then maybe get a shot to rejoin wwe down the road for more money.
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Post by Scott! on Apr 30, 2022 6:12:28 GMT -5
Dexter Lumis is a head scratcher, but it is what it is. Dakota will do great away from WWE and I honestly think that's a bad move by them. Its not what it is. Maybe Vince never watched Dexter and doesnt get the character at all. I didn’t mean that in a sense of “he was rubbish, who cares”, I was actually begrudgingly admitting that nothing surprises me anymore. Vince hasn’t got a clue and it feels like he’s just drawing random names out a hat to release these days. In no way was I saying it was warranted, it certainly wasn’t. I’ve just got to that point where you can’t predict anything anymore, no one seems safe these days no matter how well they perform.
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Post by Alexarules16 on Apr 30, 2022 6:45:34 GMT -5
I don't think these are as surprising as people are making them out to be. Dexter Lumis, for as much as I like him and have been a fan of his run in NXT, is one dimensional and has a pretty obvious ceiling. He's played pretty much the same character since TNA and I think that holds him back a bit. I think the biggest loss in regards to him is his partnership with Indi Hartwell. I do really like him though and I hope to see him in the future. Dakota Kai is an interesting one because she had a few dark tryout matches recently but I guess those didn't go too well for her and she never got brought onto the main roster. I can't say I ever became a fan of her or anything and I've always felt like she was always overshadowed by her contemporaries. Harland wasn't that big of a surprise. Although he was touted as the next Brock Lesnar when he got signed, it is really hard to even be half as good as Lesnar and I guess WWE saw that he didn't have it in him. Malcolm Bivens is the biggest loss of this whole thing for me. Though he wasn't a legit release (he didn't resign with the company so this is probably more beneficial for him in regards to getting work elsewhere sooner) I feel like he had such potential for a main roster spot as a manager or even continuing doing big things for guys in NXT. Diamond Mine has been a highlight of wrestling as a whole for me as long as they've been around (even in their different incarnations) and it sucks that the heart and soul of the group is gone, but I guess he wants to explore other opportunities so that's no biggie. Overall I think the releases in this batch were not the biggest stars in the world. Sucks to see anyone lose their jobs obviously but I think they'll all land on their feet eventually. It was booking that had dakota overshadowed not her herself she was a perfect underdog babyface
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Post by Alexarules16 on Apr 30, 2022 6:46:41 GMT -5
Still monumentally absurd that WWE sees more in Lacey Evans and Raquel Gonzalez than Dakota Kai. That's not a call to fire them instead, nobody should lose their job, it just sucks that creative apparently "has more" for those two bland charisma vacuums and other bland charisma vacuums like Theory than an actually good promo and worker in Dakota. Lacey actually has charisma
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Post by Alexarules16 on Apr 30, 2022 6:48:12 GMT -5
Dakota Kai is an interesting one because she had a few dark tryout matches recently but I guess those didn't go too well for her and she never got brought onto the main roster. I can't say I ever became a fan of her or anything and I've always felt like she was always overshadowed by her contemporaries.This is the biggest thing with her even though I find her work very solid. If she is continually overshadowed by fellow NXTers on the main roster she’d have no chance. At the end of the day she’s been in developmental since 2017. It was probably best for both parties to call it good at this point. I could see her do well with Stardom in Japan. It’s not her fault wwe had her overshadowed by others if they would have booked her better she’d be doing big things
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Post by Sizzle on Apr 30, 2022 8:03:00 GMT -5
I don't think these are as surprising as people are making them out to be. Dexter Lumis, for as much as I like him and have been a fan of his run in NXT, is one dimensional and has a pretty obvious ceiling. He's played pretty much the same character since TNA and I think that holds him back a bit. I think the biggest loss in regards to him is his partnership with Indi Hartwell. I do really like him though and I hope to see him in the future. Dakota Kai is an interesting one because she had a few dark tryout matches recently but I guess those didn't go too well for her and she never got brought onto the main roster. I can't say I ever became a fan of her or anything and I've always felt like she was always overshadowed by her contemporaries. Harland wasn't that big of a surprise. Although he was touted as the next Brock Lesnar when he got signed, it is really hard to even be half as good as Lesnar and I guess WWE saw that he didn't have it in him. Malcolm Bivens is the biggest loss of this whole thing for me. Though he wasn't a legit release (he didn't resign with the company so this is probably more beneficial for him in regards to getting work elsewhere sooner) I feel like he had such potential for a main roster spot as a manager or even continuing doing big things for guys in NXT. Diamond Mine has been a highlight of wrestling as a whole for me as long as they've been around (even in their different incarnations) and it sucks that the heart and soul of the group is gone, but I guess he wants to explore other opportunities so that's no biggie. Overall I think the releases in this batch were not the biggest stars in the world. Sucks to see anyone lose their jobs obviously but I think they'll all land on their feet eventually. It was booking that had dakota overshadowed not her herself she was a perfect underdog babyface I think she plays a similar role to Liv Morgan where they’re decent but nowhere near the pinnacle of talent that exists in their time. The four horsewomen, Bianca, Asuka, and even Rhea Ripley were all far more developed as characters and just all around wrestlers in much less time than Kai even spent in NXT. She’s been in developmental for half a decade, and as as is the case with past talent it’s usually for a reason.
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on Apr 30, 2022 11:40:40 GMT -5
I don't think anyone who is a fan of pro wrestling should be upset when a pro wrestler is let go from WWE. They should be happy. They can go wrestle and do what they love now. WWE can keep their models and actors. The only thing upsetting is there will be some audience that holds a stigma around them that they weren't "good enough" to hang in WWE
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 30, 2022 14:15:05 GMT -5
Oh good, people losing their jobs is good news because WWE brands their pro wrestling a different name and it’s totally different than pro wrestling everywhere else.
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Post by The Real Chillary on Apr 30, 2022 17:59:47 GMT -5
Tegan Knox being injury prone was Dakota's downfall,
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Post by casanova on May 1, 2022 7:36:30 GMT -5
People are losing their job everyday. I honestly don’t get all this hyper sensitive stuff in threads like these. Unfortunately this is part of the business. While it is nothing to joke about, there is obviously nothing wrong to discuss this and also compare the released workers to others. It is not offending to wonder about WWEs decisions.
What’s happening with Roderick Strong now could also be interesting for the Creeds. The Diamond Mine felt a little to fade away and focus on the Creed Brothers lately, which wasn’t a bad thing in my opinion. I don’t see them being experienced enough to go on their own, so either Strong is taking over or they put someone else on their side who is able tondo the mic work. Joe Gacy comes to my mind.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on May 2, 2022 17:15:05 GMT -5
Seeing some reports Roddy asked for his release 🤔
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Post by LA Times on May 2, 2022 18:24:50 GMT -5
Seeing some reports Roddy asked for his release 🤔 When you see where his 3 buds and his wife are, who can blame him.
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Post by tylerbreezee on May 2, 2022 19:37:07 GMT -5
I love how it’s always “budget cuts” when really it’s just people they don’t find as money makers currently or in the future and are not longer an investment they want to continue with.
I don’t understand the reason to lie
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on May 2, 2022 21:16:53 GMT -5
I love how it’s always “budget cuts” when really it’s just people they don’t find as money makers currently or in the future and are not longer an investment they want to continue with. I don’t understand the reason to lie They haven't caught up with the times, when in the past you had to at least put up a public front and feign some remorse about what such a difficult decision it was to make
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Post by k5 on May 2, 2022 21:47:14 GMT -5
gotta wonder if there’s gonna be some female talent dismissed soon enough if the rumoured attire meeting being skipped by some is a legit report.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 22:18:17 GMT -5
gotta wonder if there’s gonna be some female talent dismissed soon enough if the rumoured attire meeting being skipped by some is a legit report. It'd be a weird thing for Athena/Ember to lie about, and she's where that story came from. She was careful not to out any of the others who skipped the meetings though, so unless they say it post release, we're not likely to find out beyond just noticing who's attire isn't changing.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 2, 2022 23:19:42 GMT -5
Hoped Lumis would've been given a go on the main roster... He got that gimmick/character over without uttering a word. I don't think anyone who is a fan of pro wrestling should be upset when a pro wrestler is let go from WWE. They should be happy. They can go wrestle and do what they love now. WWE can keep their models and actors. Ah, this old chestnut... Newsflash... every "pro-wrestler" is an actor. That's why they have stage names and hold an equity card. "Pro-wrestling" is itself a form of acting - performers/entertainers, portraying a character while acting out scripted storylines and choreographed matches.
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