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Post by judas on May 2, 2022 4:03:52 GMT -5
I’ve sacked it all off now too if I’m honest. Basics are now just statues that struggle to actually stand up and they are all half painted attempts at attires that look like cheap knock offs or they are street clothes. We’ve had two current Edges and both are boring street clothes, yeah cheers for that mr basic designer, just what we all wanted. Hardly any legends now. QC issues out the wazoo.
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IceDragon
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Post by IceDragon on May 2, 2022 5:15:39 GMT -5
i haven't had too many QC issues but the ones I've run into are all very bad. I'm not that picky about loose or tight joints or minor paint issues but I've had about 5 figures now where the joints are literally fused/glued together. It's usually in the thigh. Either it won't spin on the cut between the upper and lower thigh which coincidentally happened to me on different Shawn Michaels figures and by different, I mean the Flashback Heartbreak Hotel one and two Ellering BAF Shawn Michaels and each time with the same leg, the left leg. The Flashback one you can literally see some kind of cured clear resin or glue between the thigh and the lower torso. You cannot move the leg at all at the ball joint or thigh cut. I also have a Mae Young with two left fists. Colonel Mustafa with the paint completely not lined up on his face to the point his eyes and mustache are almost flesh colored. Zodiac head missing the ponytail with a flesh colored hole where it was supposed to be glued. Going back in time, the Legends Sgt. Slaughter left leg fused to ball joint so can't move the leg at all and front part of crotch area completely cracked and broken off. In fact, quite a few older Legends figures have completely fused thighs at the balljoints including the Bushwackers. It's tough for me because these are already tough to find here so I usually have to order them from an online toy store.
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Post by master of the WORLD! on May 2, 2022 5:54:32 GMT -5
I personally haven't had too many QC issues lately. maybe minor stuff here and there but nothing terrible.
as far as if they change the packaging to none windows for me personally I open everything so I don't care in that regard but you can't see obvious QC issues which is annoying.
I collect a lot of stuff that you can't buy at retail and some higher end stuff that mostly comes in a sealed windowless box so there's no way you'd even know if there were any issues anyway. with mass produced stuff like mattels they are much more prone to QC issues though. also the fact that swappers could have a field day with windowless packaging.
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Post by newgenandy on May 2, 2022 6:11:20 GMT -5
I've had next to no QC issues. Weird. Half the time I wonder if it’s down to preference / opinion? Like what you or I consider to be ok paint apps others might not like or vice Versa? Like it depends how picky someone is |
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Post by stc13 on May 2, 2022 7:01:22 GMT -5
There are plenty of things I have issues with Mattel for, but the QC hasn't really been one of them. I can only think of one figure in the past year that I've had an issue with, and that was a CE Bulldog where one leg was just sort of floating on the peg and didn't look like it was attached to his torso.
There are some stray paint marks and things like that, but that's been the case with every line I collect and have seen those issues on WWE figures for as long as I've collected the line. But as with any hobby, if it's more stress than fun, it's time to find something else.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on May 2, 2022 7:47:18 GMT -5
It’s funny how there were none of these issues with the Hasbro line over 30 years ago. All the issues you listed are the result of continuous corner-cutting, nickel and diming, and trying to get away with as much as possible for as much profit as possible. I mean it was probably insanely cheaper and simpler to paint hunks of barely articulate plastic that were 1/4 the size of an elite. Retro people are so weird with their nostalgia and trying to translate toys that were a step above funko pops with modern day figures. Also if anyone thinks modern Hasbro could is a choice than Mattel I highly recommend you look at their Lightning Collection issues from the past year... I'm not even a big Mattel guy but this is just ridiculous lol. |
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Post by Figure Nova on May 2, 2022 7:59:11 GMT -5
It’s funny how there were none of these issues with the Hasbro line over 30 years ago. All the issues you listed are the result of continuous corner-cutting, nickel and diming, and trying to get away with as much as possible for as much profit as possible. I mean it was probably insanely cheaper and simpler to paint hunks of barely articulate plastic that were 1/4 the size of an elite. Retro people are so weird with their nostalgia and trying to translate toys that were a step above funko pops with modern day figures. Also if anyone thinks modern Hasbro could is a choice than Mattel I highly recommend you look at their Lightning Collection issues from the past year... I'm not even a big Mattel guy but this is just ridiculous lol. I know that well meaning folks like you think you have the right attitude, but by being a Mattel apologist and constantly forgiving this BS, you’re actually enabling it. Look at the fiasco with the UE Kane and all the QC issues which were so pathetic that Mattel actually had to send loose arms and heads to customers in the mail. As someone who grew up on He-Man, Thundercats, Ninja Turtles, etc, I don’t ever remember it being a lottery of whether my figure would be cross eyed due to a poor face scan/paint job, if joints would be loose, or accessories broken, etc. Yet here we are in 2022 and this is happening with figures at a $30+ price point. This should not be tolerated, so please stop excusing it. |
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Post by TheHitmanKid on May 2, 2022 7:59:57 GMT -5
Just don't sell your figures if your quitting.
We can't have another thread a couple months later talking about how you "started collecting again" and how you "regret selling your favorite figures"
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Post by newgenandy on May 2, 2022 8:22:28 GMT -5
It’s funny how there were none of these issues with the Hasbro line over 30 years ago. All the issues you listed are the result of continuous corner-cutting, nickel and diming, and trying to get away with as much as possible for as much profit as possible. I mean it was probably insanely cheaper and simpler to paint hunks of barely articulate plastic that were 1/4 the size of an elite. Retro people are so weird with their nostalgia and trying to translate toys that were a step above funko pops with modern day figures. Also if anyone thinks modern Hasbro could is a choice than Mattel I highly recommend you look at their Lightning Collection issues from the past year... I'm not even a big Mattel guy but this is just ridiculous lol. Tbf I collect the McDonald’s funkos and out of 6 only 1 has perfect paint application, and that’s grimace and he’s a hunk of purple with little else to detail |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 2, 2022 8:27:30 GMT -5
Honestly, collecting just like any other hobby or fandom, should make you happy. If the pros outweigh the cons, then it’s probably healthy to get away. It often feels like a lot of people here should do the same. ...don't you mean if the cons outweigh the pros? |
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on May 2, 2022 8:45:54 GMT -5
The truth of the matter is, the quality of the line was way better 10 years ago, it’s sad, but true.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on May 2, 2022 9:10:45 GMT -5
I mean it was probably insanely cheaper and simpler to paint hunks of barely articulate plastic that were 1/4 the size of an elite. Retro people are so weird with their nostalgia and trying to translate toys that were a step above funko pops with modern day figures. Also if anyone thinks modern Hasbro could is a choice than Mattel I highly recommend you look at their Lightning Collection issues from the past year... I'm not even a big Mattel guy but this is just ridiculous lol. I know that well meaning folks like you think you have the right attitude, but by being a Mattel apologist and constantly forgiving this BS, you’re actually enabling it. Look at the fiasco with the UE Kane and all the QC issues which were so pathetic that Mattel actually had to send loose arms and heads to customers in the mail. As someone who grew up on He-Man, Thundercats, Ninja Turtles, etc, I don’t ever remember it being a lottery of whether my figure would be cross eyed due to a poor face scan/paint job, if joints would be loose, or accessories broken, etc. Yet here we are in 2022 and this is happening with figures at a $30+ price point. This should not be tolerated, so please stop excusing it. lmao pointing out the fallacy of comparing glorified McDonald's toys that are over 30 years old to highly articulated figures is not being a "Mattel apologist". I hate to tell you but the reason you don't remember those things from when you were a kid is nostalgia and not looking for things as a child 30 years ago. You can check my history and I criticize Mattel's pricing and issues plenty, I'm just tired of seeing people use nostalgia as an argument point because it doesn't mean anything. |
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Post by Figure Nova on May 2, 2022 9:46:16 GMT -5
I know that well meaning folks like you think you have the right attitude, but by being a Mattel apologist and constantly forgiving this BS, you’re actually enabling it. Look at the fiasco with the UE Kane and all the QC issues which were so pathetic that Mattel actually had to send loose arms and heads to customers in the mail. As someone who grew up on He-Man, Thundercats, Ninja Turtles, etc, I don’t ever remember it being a lottery of whether my figure would be cross eyed due to a poor face scan/paint job, if joints would be loose, or accessories broken, etc. Yet here we are in 2022 and this is happening with figures at a $30+ price point. This should not be tolerated, so please stop excusing it. lmao pointing out the fallacy of comparing glorified McDonald's toys that are over 30 years old to highly articulated figures is not being a "Mattel apologist". I hate to tell you but the reason you don't remember those things from when you were a kid is nostalgia and not looking for things as a child 30 years ago. You can check my history and I criticize Mattel's pricing and issues plenty, I'm just tired of seeing people use nostalgia as an argument point because it doesn't mean anything. I’d put my WM Bret Hart that I recently purchased and can’t even pose correctly because the left arm is so loose that it won’t hold an arm up correctly vs an 80s or 90s piece any day. I’ll never take the “well it has 32 points of articulation so…you know…you can forgive Nash only having half a beard, Piper being cross eyed or Goon’s waist spinning around like a fidget spinner!” Approach and I demand better. |
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on May 2, 2022 9:57:13 GMT -5
Lmk if you sell your figures
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ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on May 2, 2022 9:59:29 GMT -5
I've been feeling this way for a year or longer now. 2021 was the least amount of WWE figures I've ever purchased. I get every UE for my MOC collection and a few exclusives but I bought almost nothing from the regular lines. Now with price hikes, I'm certainly not going to be buying more figures. I am not going to pay more money when I see worse and worse figures being released -- its really that simple. Quality control and just totally wrong parts are two things that are so frustrating because these complaints all fall on deaf ears. No one from Mattel engages their consumers on these topics and you have people pushing us to buy sh** figures for a $3 or $4 price increase.
I don't think quality control is as frustrating as the lack of care put into the releases. Wrong parts, poor design and a lack of exciting characters. The parts issue is what annoys me the most to be honest. Things like the giraffe legs on the first Elite Karrion Kross figure; or the wrong kickpads on the long-awaited Elite Gargano; that total P.O.S. Firefly funhouse Bray Wyatt RSE; or the fact that Mattel uses the same Undertaker scan for 2001 and 2021 Undertaker. This list goes on and on and on and on. Things are just flat out designed bad and we just get posts on social media from the design team telling us we're wrong.
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Post by kinnikuman on May 2, 2022 10:08:01 GMT -5
I've had next to no QC issues. Weird. Half the time I wonder if it’s down to preference / opinion? Like what you or I consider to be ok paint apps others might not like or vice Versa? Like it depends how picky someone is The most paint issues I see people complain about are the FX face. I think I may have ONE figure out of hundreds that have the eyes slightly askew. I don't know how all these people are getting these wildly badly printed face apps. I know they exist, but I don't have them. Other than Hammer Valentine being stiff (which I fixed) and Kenny Omega v1 being hard to stand ... I can't think of any crazy leg issues. The OP is saying he gets SO many messed up figures he wants to quit. That's crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 10:18:40 GMT -5
Got my 2 Ricky Steamboats Saturday, the white attire steamboat had paint blotches on his chest, back and on his tights, but nothing serious that would stand out unless you got the figure in hand and looked at it. The yellow attire had somewhat of the same issue but not as bad, but for whatever reason he had scratches on his chest like it got paint on his chest and the worker tried to scrape it off. And as usual with ALL of the extra hand figures, when you try and switch hands all of them are so loose they just spin , so the extra hands are just pointless at this point
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Post by kinnikuman on May 2, 2022 10:20:07 GMT -5
Also, if you want perfection, your only option is Hot Toys or Sideshow Collectibles, and you pay for it. If you want perfect from a mass produced $30 figure from China ... you're going to be unhappy.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on May 2, 2022 10:28:42 GMT -5
If Mattel switches to plastic free packaging then I'll be done collecting as well. If I'm buying a figure in store, then literally every time I do I have to look through multiple figures in order to get one with proper paint apps. So the idea of it being a total crap shoot on whether I get a good one or not sounds like too much of a headache
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Post by Figure Nova on May 2, 2022 10:34:13 GMT -5
If Mattel switches to plastic free packaging then I'll be done collecting as well. If I'm buying a figure in store, then literally every time I do I have to look through multiple figures in order to get one with proper paint apps. So the idea of it being a total crap shoot on whether I get a good one or not sounds like too much of a headache Agreed, it’s one step away from being a damn blind bag at that point. |
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