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Post by alanpartridge on Aug 30, 2022 9:37:14 GMT -5
Found out today that at Survivor Series 2005 Matt Hardy refused to sell to Taker. He is wearing beanie and just casually leaves ring amidst of drama. Here is clip: Skip to 1:33
Paul London smiling at Vince Mcmahon explosion is up there too. You know any? Edit: Was supposed to be in classic wrestling.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 30, 2022 10:20:22 GMT -5
I don't think of it like that at all. Matt was in the back by the corner, was he supposed to run through the other wrestlers just to take a shot from Taker?? No, of course not. He got out of the ring in fear like some of the other wrestlers started to do.
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Post by k5 on Aug 30, 2022 10:58:12 GMT -5
I don't think of it like that at all. Matt was in the back by the corner, was he supposed to run through the other wrestlers just to take a shot from Taker?? No, of course not. He got out of the ring in fear like some of the other wrestlers started to do. yep, this is clearly what happened.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Aug 30, 2022 12:22:19 GMT -5
I think getting rid of actual sets and using those dumb LED electric festival stages were a dumb move. Every current WWE stage looks the same with little to no effort put in visually (no pun intended). One of my favorite things to do every PPV was to guess how the stages would look. They add atmosphere and presence to the show.
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Post by Quazimoto on Aug 30, 2022 13:29:03 GMT -5
Some of my personal dumbest decisions in wrestling...
WCW and TNA both letting Hogan and friends have so much backstage pull because it terribly effected the on screen product.
WCW announcing that Mick Foley was going to win the WWE Championship on RAW that night. Millions of people switched the channel and basically never went back.
WWE relaunching ECW. The show actually wasn't bad for the most part, but calling it ECW was a huge mistake as it made the audience expect a product WWE weren't willing to offer them.
Changing NXT into NXT 2.0. Should have had NXT invade, leading to them winning SmackDown at Survivor Series so you had NXT SmackDown (more wrestling focused) and WWE RAW (more storyline/entertainment focused). Would have offered two different styles of products to you audience.
Not allowing WCW to survive in name and running it like a separate company after WWE bought the assets. (Note... not sure if that would have been possible or not, depends on the purchase contract).
Lex Luger not winning the WWE title at SummerSlam 93.
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Post by shenmue on Aug 30, 2022 14:31:40 GMT -5
Exploding barb wire death match with very little explosions was pretty dumb, hilarious but dumb.
Turning Austin heel at WM17, I actually enjoyed a lot of Steve's heel work but the fans didn't want it.
WCW unmasking rey, horrible.
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Post by tmnt316 on Aug 30, 2022 14:57:57 GMT -5
Starrcade 97 main event cluster especially since 11yr old me was hoping for Sting to run straight through Hogan.
Katie Vick angle.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Aug 30, 2022 16:48:25 GMT -5
I don’t buy into that. I feel like I’ve always heard both Hardys speak well on Taker and respected him. And I believe that respect was reciprocated.
Edit: watched it a couple of times. I think that was Matt just selling Taker’s presence and impending destruction all while knowing it was too crowded in the ring.
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Post by LK3 on Aug 30, 2022 16:50:09 GMT -5
Boldgerg over The Fiend
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Aug 30, 2022 18:32:19 GMT -5
Verne letting Hogan get away
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Post by X-27 on Aug 30, 2022 18:51:34 GMT -5
Baron Corbin retiring Kurt Angle.
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Post by shenmue on Aug 30, 2022 19:54:08 GMT -5
Add the hiac with seth and losing to Orton at WM.
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Post by k5 on Aug 30, 2022 20:59:39 GMT -5
Baron Corbin retiring Kurt Angle. man, this a million times over.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Aug 30, 2022 21:25:55 GMT -5
Breaking Taker’s Mania streak.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 30, 2022 21:31:04 GMT -5
94% of WCWs booking from 1994-2001.
Bringing in Warrior in 1996.
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Post by alanpartridge on Aug 31, 2022 5:02:12 GMT -5
I don't think of it like that at all. Matt was in the back by the corner, was he supposed to run through the other wrestlers just to take a shot from Taker?? No, of course not. He got out of the ring in fear like some of the other wrestlers started to do. He was punished for it. For most of 2006 he was irrelevant. Matt Hardy was more over than Edge at Summerslam 2005. He could have been world champ in 2006. Instead he was in a tag team with Tatanka. Here is source: Is it really any surprise to hear that Matt Hardy had heat with The Undertaker? Mid 2000's Hardy always had a very high opinion of himself, despite failing to live up to his early career potential. Taker had actually been a keen supporter of The Hardy Boyz / Edge and Christian in the early 2000's, but only Edge and Christian really fulfilled their potential. The major heat from Taker to Matt was stemming from Survivor Series 2005. Undertaker came in and cleaned house at the end, but Matt rolled out the ring and avoided taking a bump. He had originally be booked to take a choke slam, but he had told an agent that he wasn't happy with being made to look weak. When word of that got back to Undertaker afterwards, he was furious. He sought out a tape and had it played it back, observing how Hardy avoided him. Taker then yelled at Hardy, asking him if he thought he was above the rest of the locker room. Matt just took the telling off, but his WWE career never really recovered from that night.
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Post by alanpartridge on Aug 31, 2022 5:04:09 GMT -5
I don't think of it like that at all. Matt was in the back by the corner, was he supposed to run through the other wrestlers just to take a shot from Taker?? No, of course not. He got out of the ring in fear like some of the other wrestlers started to do. yep, this is clearly what happened.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 31, 2022 6:18:32 GMT -5
Breaking Taker’s Mania streak. I second this
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Post by k5 on Aug 31, 2022 11:36:26 GMT -5
I don't think of it like that at all. Matt was in the back by the corner, was he supposed to run through the other wrestlers just to take a shot from Taker?? No, of course not. He got out of the ring in fear like some of the other wrestlers started to do. He was punished for it. For most of 2006 he was irrelevant. Matt Hardy was more over than Edge at Summerslam 2005. He could have been world champ in 2006. Instead he was in a tag team with Tatanka. Here is source: Is it really any surprise to hear that Matt Hardy had heat with The Undertaker? Mid 2000's Hardy always had a very high opinion of himself, despite failing to live up to his early career potential. Taker had actually been a keen supporter of The Hardy Boyz / Edge and Christian in the early 2000's, but only Edge and Christian really fulfilled their potential. The major heat from Taker to Matt was stemming from Survivor Series 2005. Undertaker came in and cleaned house at the end, but Matt rolled out the ring and avoided taking a bump. He had originally be booked to take a choke slam, but he had told an agent that he wasn't happy with being made to look weak. When word of that got back to Undertaker afterwards, he was furious. He sought out a tape and had it played it back, observing how Hardy avoided him. Taker then yelled at Hardy, asking him if he thought he was above the rest of the locker room. Matt just took the telling off, but his WWE career never really recovered from that night. wow, crazy. I had no idea.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 31, 2022 12:26:04 GMT -5
I don't think of it like that at all. Matt was in the back by the corner, was he supposed to run through the other wrestlers just to take a shot from Taker?? No, of course not. He got out of the ring in fear like some of the other wrestlers started to do. He was punished for it. For most of 2006 he was irrelevant. Matt Hardy was more over than Edge at Summerslam 2005. He could have been world champ in 2006. Instead he was in a tag team with Tatanka. Here is source: Is it really any surprise to hear that Matt Hardy had heat with The Undertaker? Mid 2000's Hardy always had a very high opinion of himself, despite failing to live up to his early career potential.Taker had actually been a keen supporter of The Hardy Boyz / Edge and Christian in the early 2000's, but only Edge and Christian really fulfilled their potential. The major heat from Taker to Matt was stemming from Survivor Series 2005. Undertaker came in and cleaned house at the end, but Matt rolled out the ring and avoided taking a bump. He had originally be booked to take a choke slam, but he had told an agent that he wasn't happy with being made to look weak. When word of that got back to Undertaker afterwards, he was furious. He sought out a tape and had it played it back, observing how Hardy avoided him. Taker then yelled at Hardy, asking him if he thought he was above the rest of the locker room. Matt just took the telling off, but his WWE career never really recovered from that night. This is just Matt completely. He has sparks of interest with V1 and the Broken stuff, but the guy has always believed he’s more important than he is. It’s seemed he’s realized in recent years that he needs to be with his brother for anyone to care about him and unfortunately exploits Jeff to try and make it happen.
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