crush
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Post by crush on Oct 7, 2022 10:01:23 GMT -5
If Randy does return (there's speculation on his back injury that might prevent it) I honestly suspect his actual tats will be altered to break the copyright. Otherwise, yeah, they'll have to muck around with them on the figures. Probably give him something generic. I doubt they will remove them entirely but I can see them inventing fake tattoos just for the occasion. Edit: That said, this case poses a hell of a precedent for future cases. There's something to be said at this point for WWE having to alter EVERYONE's tattoos due to this case. Reading the case, I don't think so. The issue seemed to relate to using the tattoos as a standalone design in the creation suite. So it seems like the issue is dealing with WWE potentially using the designs as merchandise in their own right, as opposed to being on a visual representation of the person. For this example, I wouldn't expect tattoos on the figures to change unless the logos are pre-copy-written (like a logo or etc.) |
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Post by punksnotdead on Oct 7, 2022 12:40:45 GMT -5
I honesty think this case is going to serve as a warning to other artists who might be kicking around this idea. I'm not going to debate the ethics of it, because I'm not entirely sure at what point we reach "fair" on this this matter, but financially, you'd have to be some kind of dumb*ss to fight this battle with WWE after seeing the end result.
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g4
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Post by g4 on Oct 8, 2022 1:39:10 GMT -5
Agreed. She won. May not have been a lot of money but will 100% set a precedent!!
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Oct 8, 2022 13:39:08 GMT -5
Orton is getting CM Punked? Does that mean CM Punk will do a whiny interview about him while sitting next to a drugged up money mark?
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Post by oldschoolfool on Oct 8, 2022 17:41:08 GMT -5
Agreed. She won. May not have been a lot of money but will 100% set a precedent!! Yeah, it'll serve as a precedent for artists to not even bother going through the hassle of suing. Cause, even if you win, most you'll gain is being able to recover the legal fees. Which is what it sounds like in this instance. |
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Post by slappy on Oct 8, 2022 17:45:15 GMT -5
Trademarks, copyright and IP are so stupid
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Post by Scott! on Oct 8, 2022 17:47:35 GMT -5
Orton probably paid her more than 4 Grand for all those tattoo's, so she must be gutted about the payout she got. Surely WWE will have something in place with her for using the rights to the tattoo's so hopefully it won't affect things.
However, this is 2022 so nothing would surprise me.
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Post by kanepilk on Oct 8, 2022 19:56:14 GMT -5
Trademarks, copyright and IP are so stupid
They absolutely are not. They should be respected.
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bigjohnnybadd
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Post by bigjohnnybadd on Oct 13, 2022 9:58:32 GMT -5
Hard to believe she actually won, but tattoos have long been a legal question of who actually owns them. I have read that in a legal sense, the tattoo artist still retains the right to the original artwork when they tattoo someone, and that the canvas is just paying for the right to wear the tattoos... It's confusing and complicated. I think in this case she was just looking for a money grab. Orton's tattoos consist mostly of generic skulls and tribal designs. He hasn't really used his tattoos in marketing his character, as they would rather use cartoon snakes...
But it makes me think of other wrestlers whose tattoos are more of their identity. How about Brock Lesnar, whose back tat is so iconic that it has actually been used as his logo? And continues to be. Where is that artist? And he has had that tattoo since he was a rookie over 20 years ago.
How about House of Black? They could have a field day with them!
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 13, 2022 10:41:57 GMT -5
She got less than 4 thousand dollars. With the cost of legal fees and the amount of years this has been going on, she probably lost 5 times that.
Totally not worth it, in my opinion. I guess she proved a point, and this has now set legal precedent for future claims…..but money is usually the bottom line when it comes to lawsuits, and she did not come away with anything worthwhile.
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 13, 2022 10:54:38 GMT -5
Trademarks, copyright and IP are so stupid
They absolutely are not. They should be respected.
In general yes, for tattoo yes completely stupid. |
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Post by disorder on Oct 14, 2022 15:11:01 GMT -5
A legitimate artist wouldn’t give a damn and would be happy that their art is getting such a huge stage to be showcased.
Also, Randy’s tattoos are just skulls
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Oct 19, 2022 12:12:36 GMT -5
On topic with Orton and his tattoos. Did anyone see the new riddle and Orton foco bobble head? His tattoos are essential like tribal flames now.
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Post by viper412 on Oct 19, 2022 12:44:26 GMT -5
On topic with Orton and his tattoos. Did anyone see the new riddle and Orton foco bobble head? His tattoos are essential like tribal flames now. missing a lot, no back or rib tattoos. I kinda like the look but for accuracy purposes it sucks |
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Post by DrakeParker on Oct 19, 2022 13:32:31 GMT -5
On topic with Orton and his tattoos. Did anyone see the new riddle and Orton foco bobble head? His tattoos are essential like tribal flames now. Now he looks like "Raging" Andy Organ from 5 Star Wrestling |
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 19, 2022 15:05:18 GMT -5
Punk has Pepsi and GI Joe logos tatted on him so Mattel and video games just modified them. Mattel and 2K better do the same with Orton. Also, why did the lady wait until 2018 to do anything when Orton has had the majority of his tattoos since way before then? He’s had most of them since what, late 2000s? He’s been in every WWE game for probably the last 15 years at least and has had multiple action figures released. Then what about Orton? He paid for the tattoos. It’s not like he got the tattoos to increase his finances because of her work. Doesn't the Jazwares one have some sort of Pepsi tattoo? |
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Post by kiloinnorcal on Oct 19, 2022 15:59:37 GMT -5
we are getting to a point where lawsuits are REALLY  ing ridiculous. a waste of time, energy and money. It all started with an old lady and a hot cup of coffee. |
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 19, 2022 17:11:35 GMT -5
we are getting to a point where lawsuits are REALLY ing ridiculous. a waste of time, energy and money. It all started with an old lady and a hot cup of coffee. This is a common misconception. McDonalds was serving coffee that was way too hot for human consumption and were warned repeatedly. The woman ordered a coffee through the drive-thru and the coffee spilled on her. It fused part of her genitals to her leg. She wasn't asking for millions of dollars, she asked them to cover the cost of her surgery that she needed. McDonalds refused so she sued. It wasn't a lawsuit because she spilled hot coffee on herself, she sued because McDonald's had been warned more than once that they were serving coffee that was entirely way too hot and they wouldn't cover her medical costs. |
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Oct 19, 2022 17:15:39 GMT -5
It all started with an old lady and a hot cup of coffee. This is a common misconception. McDonalds was serving coffee that was way too hot for human consumption and were warned repeatedly. The woman ordered a coffee through the drive-thru and the coffee spilled on her. It fused part of her genitals to her leg. She wasn't asking for millions of dollars, she asked them to cover the cost of her surgery that she needed. McDonalds refused so she sued. It wasn't a lawsuit because she spilled hot coffee on herself, she sued because McDonald's had been warned more than once that they were serving coffee that was entirely way too hot and they wouldn't cover her medical costs. Wow, never heard of this. However, that's insane. I bet if it was one of us, we'd sue as well. Remember, you'll be the one suffering if you keep your mouth shut. Corporations don't give a damn unless it involves $$$ out their pocket. |
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 19, 2022 17:23:11 GMT -5
This is a common misconception. McDonalds was serving coffee that was way too hot for human consumption and were warned repeatedly. The woman ordered a coffee through the drive-thru and the coffee spilled on her. It fused part of her genitals to her leg. She wasn't asking for millions of dollars, she asked them to cover the cost of her surgery that she needed. McDonalds refused so she sued. It wasn't a lawsuit because she spilled hot coffee on herself, she sued because McDonald's had been warned more than once that they were serving coffee that was entirely way too hot and they wouldn't cover her medical costs. Wow, never heard of this. However, that's insane. I bet if it was one of us, we'd sue as well. Remember, you'll be the one suffering if you keep your mouth shut. Corporations don't give a damn unless it involves $$$ out their pocket. She was only asking for 20k, McDonald's refused so she sued. They ended up having to give her 3 million. |
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