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Post by The American Daydream on Nov 20, 2022 12:45:46 GMT -5
I feel like it depends. You can have intergender matches to garner heat like Dudleys beating up on Torrie or someone small and womanly like that, but on the other end if you have someone like Chyna or Rhea Ripley it's easily believable that they could crush weak heels like Jarrett, Christian, Jericho etc especially when they dwarf some of them.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Nov 20, 2022 15:12:16 GMT -5
I mean, I'm sure he isn't in real life. But the stone cold character (and I loved scsa) always seemed so trailer park-y to me. It wouldn't take much to convince me that character is racist and holds all Asians responsible for pearl harbor. Or something, I don't know. I'm just saying I'd be able to buy into that scenario as easy (probably easier) as I would "rhea is big and therefore tough as the guys" or "ronda was in the ufc, she can obviously beat brock" This thread is about to take a dive lol
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Post by Teddy Bearburg on Nov 20, 2022 16:10:15 GMT -5
In this same vein, I could see WWE one day giving Ronda Rousey a shot at the WWE Championship. As a stunt, A possibly desperate stunt... As a for reals trained and champion MMA fighter, it would not be hard to make it believable she could fight and hang with the men. For reals right now, she could easily beat up 3/4ths of the men on the planet. I forgot we got to see Nia Jax or was it Tamina? in the Royal Rumble. I also think she could beat up half of the roster lol. Yeah, Nia was in the Rumble and they had even advertised her one on one versus Moxley before they ultimately scrapped it.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Nov 21, 2022 11:33:20 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of intergender wrestling. It always made me uncomfortable.
To each their own. Everything ain’t for everybody.
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Post by kinnikuman on Nov 21, 2022 14:15:41 GMT -5
IBTL
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 21, 2022 18:19:29 GMT -5
People really will just look for a reason to be angry and outraged at something, no matter how hard they have to reach.
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Post by kinnikuman on Nov 21, 2022 19:59:59 GMT -5
I have no problem with his own personal thing of not wanting to do it. You do you, man. I don't care for those matches either. But I do find it funny he comes off as he'd easily whip a female in a "fight". There are plenty of female wrestlers who you could easily book to beat him clean. He comes off a bit old fashioned I guess, comparing them to his 20 yo daughter. Meanwhile, Jordynne Grace could probably kick his old ass in real life lol.
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Post by saintegenevieve on Nov 25, 2022 2:40:20 GMT -5
This essentially boils down to NPC's yelling at him to 'Hit women in the name of equality, bigot' There is a weird subsection of wrestling fans that are VERY into seeing women bleed. I didn't really want to comment on this. Just going to share some thoughts. I have never met a more misogynistic group of people in my life than ECW fans online, and I've been around a lot of tough crowds. It's almost like these people think the average woman is obliged to show her breasts to them or is some stripper type like Francine. Total neckbeard fanbase What's weird is my middle school coach was an ECW fan. Really nice guy. Donated about $200 a few months back for school supplies. He was one of those OG fans of ECW. (He was from Pennsylvania.) He's the exception though. I sometimes wonder after having dealt with ECW fans if 80% of them ever dealt with a real woman.
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Post by saintegenevieve on Nov 25, 2022 2:49:17 GMT -5
So why did I stop watching WWF?
1. WCW buyout 2. Jericho as champion 3. When Dudleys powerbombed either Fabulous Moolah or Mae Young.
WWF was always a campy product, even during the Attitude Era days, when it was almost too silly and weird to be offensive. When they started powerbombing old women 10 feet down, "Hot Lesbian Action," and weird teams like Billy & Chuck who weren't subtle enough to be funny, I tuned out. Product became really desperate and mean-spirited. Looking back, I think McMahon stopped caring once he bought up everything and was politically protected on Wall Street
Intergender matches, unless they're going for heat or a spot to get someone over, don't really make any sense. It's the kind of thing I'll hear from one of my progressive friends whose like "I think women should be drafted," just to make a social point. Besides the demographic disaster that would befall a country for doing something so stupid, it's a waste of time for a machine needing efficiency, given that a third of men would be disqualified from a draft (at least). So she's asking for a draft of women so the state could find the 5% or so who'd be capable of doing infantry? It's the dumbest thing in the world.
Progressives (ethically) are weird neo-Kantians with a first principle fixation on their pleasure and pain principle, which already is shoddy. I think the intergender fixation stems from that and that pro wrestling itself is creatively exhausted and has been for a good 20 years
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Nov 27, 2022 16:42:26 GMT -5
There is a weird subsection of wrestling fans that are VERY into seeing women bleed. I didn't really want to comment on this. Just going to share some thoughts. I have never met a more misogynistic group of people in my life than ECW fans online, and I've been around a lot of tough crowds. It's almost like these people think the average woman is obliged to show her breasts to them or is some stripper type like Francine. Total neckbeard fanbase What's weird is my middle school coach was an ECW fan. Really nice guy. Donated about $200 a few months back for school supplies. He was one of those OG fans of ECW. (He was from Pennsylvania.) He's the exception though. I sometimes wonder after having dealt with ECW fans if 80% of them ever dealt with a real woman. Most wrestling fans are neckbeards. Have you been to a live show? It's downright embarrassing how a bunch of the "fans" act.
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Post by k5 on Nov 28, 2022 0:25:35 GMT -5
to me it’s kinda weird to just throw the baby out with the bath water on this one
is stone cold and triple h giving lita a legitimate beating acceptable? no. but if a match is portraying two contestants on an even level safely, I don’t know how it differs from violence portrayed in film or television, or why this would be an issue.
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Post by saintegenevieve on Dec 6, 2022 16:31:11 GMT -5
I didn't really want to comment on this. Just going to share some thoughts. I have never met a more misogynistic group of people in my life than ECW fans online, and I've been around a lot of tough crowds. It's almost like these people think the average woman is obliged to show her breasts to them or is some stripper type like Francine. Total neckbeard fanbase What's weird is my middle school coach was an ECW fan. Really nice guy. Donated about $200 a few months back for school supplies. He was one of those OG fans of ECW. (He was from Pennsylvania.) He's the exception though. I sometimes wonder after having dealt with ECW fans if 80% of them ever dealt with a real woman. Most wrestling fans are neckbeards. Have you been to a live show? It's downright embarrassing how a bunch of the "fans" act. Honestly, I never really thought about it. I haven't been to a WWE show in 20 years. I'd never go to an indy show in California like "Pro Wrestling Guerrilla." Thought about going to New Japan out here and realized that the Japanese talent is sparse and the fans were exactly what you say. I used to go to a few indys in my home area since there wasn't much going on in town. Just normal working class guys mainly moonlighting a character. A lot of service guys were in attendance and families, some with handicaps who probably like wrestling for the escapism. I used to see a lot of those types in really small rural towns where you might find maybe 50 people in an audience. Kind of a window into what Stampede or Memphis must have looked like
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