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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2022 0:50:43 GMT -5
a few i thought for sure were gonna change hands were:
luger at sslam 93
powers of pain at wm5
nikita over flair at sc86
warriors over horseman at sc87
luger over flair at sc88
orndorff over hogan at SNME cage match
bulldogs over harts at SNME 11
savage over honky at SNME 12
beefcake over honky at wm4
warrior over savage at sslam92
tatanka over micheals at wm9
mega-maniacs over money inc at wm9
perfect over micheals at sslam93
luger over yoko at wm10
what are some you thought for sure were gonna change hands?
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Post by hbkjason on Dec 17, 2022 3:23:40 GMT -5
Great idea man 🙂
Off the top of my head the ones that come to mind are,
Big Boss Man Vs Me. Perfect
I loved the feud between Boss Man and the Heenan Family, it is probably my favourite Heenan feud. However, Boss Man failing to win th Intercontinental Championship at WrestleMania kind of left the ending to this flat. Granted, Bret Hart being the one to take the title from Perfect was the right decision, but it still left this feud that has been going for months without a proper ending.
Shawn Michaels Vs Tatanka
Looking back, I still feel this was a huge mistake. Tatanka was super over and I always felt he should have won the title here. Like the previous match I just mentioned, I liked how things turned out as HBK Vs Jannetty on Raw was awesome.
Shawn Michaels Vs Crush
Good ol' HBK as much as I love him has anyone lost more titles with out getting their shoulders pinned than him 🤣 like Tatanka, Crush was super over and I always felt as Intercontinental Championship reign was for him even if he won it here and Doink cost him the title at Raw the next night would have been good.
I am sure more will come to mind as I think about this more.
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Post by nibs92 on Dec 17, 2022 4:27:35 GMT -5
The big one for me was Luger v Yokozuna Summerslam 93.
The Lex Express investment, supposed one time only shot etc, the booking in the lead up to it practically told you that he was the going to win the title. But alas, no.
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Post by Old Zeke on Dec 17, 2022 5:11:08 GMT -5
The first one that springs to mind for me is Reigns/Lesnar at WM34. I'm not surprised Brock threw the belt at Vince as soon as he walked through the curtain.
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Post by The Brain on Dec 17, 2022 9:00:52 GMT -5
Some great shouts here. I'm gonna add Vader/Bulldog Slamboree 93
Davey got a good push outta the gate in the company to which you really thought he had a chance at dethroning the big man
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 17, 2022 17:33:56 GMT -5
Some great shouts here. I'm gonna add Vader/Bulldog Slamboree 93 Davey got a good push outta the gate in the company to which you really thought he had a chance at dethroning the big man Yeah, I think Davey Boy beating Vader would have been great for Davey Boy, and it wouldn't have hurt Vader. Though, I think his reign would have been short, maybe holding on to it for a PPV or two, then losing it back to Vader. Davey Boy was really over at this time, probably Sting and Flair were the only ones more popular at the time. |
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 17, 2022 17:51:44 GMT -5
a few i thought for sure were gonna change hands were: luger at sslam 93 powers of pain at wm5 nikita over flair at sc86 warriors over horseman at sc87 luger over flair at sc88 orndorff over hogan at SNME cage match bulldogs over harts at SNME 11 savage over honky at SNME 12 beefcake over honky at wm4 warrior over savage at sslam92 tatanka over micheals at wm9 mega-maniacs over money inc at wm9 perfect over micheals at sslam93 luger over yoko at wm10 what are some you thought for sure were gonna change hands? Great list, a lot of these really hurt the person/team when they didn't win. The main ones would be Luger at SSL93, Perfect at SSL93, Tatanka over HBK at WM9, and Luger again at WM10. Luger not winning at SSL93 when he was at his most popular point, hurt his credibility in the eyes of the fans. Then, he finally gets his rematch, only to come up short again, I really think that face Luger was done at this point. Bret and Taker were clearly past him at this point, with Razor very close, if not even. And you had Diesel catching on by the end of the year. Though, had he won the belt at WM10 over Yoko, only to lose it to Bret later that night, I can't see that being any better for him. Perfect really needed a big win with his return in 1992/93, I think holding the belt for a short while in 1993 would have helped his return, but losing three straight PPVs to Luger, Bret and HBK, didn't help, and he didn't do much after this. Though, I believe his back was still an issue, and didn't help as well. It really looked like Tatanka was on his way to the IC title, they built him up really well, and he was really popular at the time. Winning by count-out over HBK at WM9 didn't help, but not getting a rematch and then getting the win definitely hurt him. From there, he was pushed down the card and put in a feud with Bam Bam, then used as fodder to get over Ludvig Borga. Next, he was back to feuding with Bam Bam, then he was put in a go-no-wear feud with IRS. I think the best thing for him would have been for Luger to turn on Tatanka and join the Million Dollar Corporation. This way you have Tatanka as the guy the fans can root for to get back at Luger, and he would have been in a big feud with Luger at the time at the top of the card - it may have rejuvenated his run. For Orndorff, I really think he needed to win one of those matches against Hogan, even if he cheated to do so. The match in Toronto or the cage match on SNME would have been a good time to do it. I could definitely see him winning the belt through outside interference over Hogan at the Big Event in Toronto, then lose it back to him at SNME in the cage match. This way Hogan has the belt to start towards WM3 with Andre. Though, it would have been interesting to see Orndorff win over Hogan at The Big Event, then they do the SNME cage match with the tie finish, with Orndorff keeping the belt. It looks like Hogan has lost the belt for good. Then on the following SNME have a baby face Andre takes on Orndorff for the title, with Hogan in Andre's corner and Heenan in Orndorff's corner. In the match, have Andre turn heel, with the help of Heenan, and win the title. Then have Hogan run in and ask Andre what's going on, only to have Andre attack Hogan and leave him laying, then walkout as Champion with Heenan. It would be a double-turn situation, with Andre turning heel and aligning with Heenan, and Orndorff turning back face (eventually when he returns to get revenge on Heenan and the family). Then you set up WM3 of heel champion Andre vs. Hulk Hogan. Andre gets a short run with the belt, and at WM3, Hogan gets his belt back with the win over Andre. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2022 20:03:09 GMT -5
what are some you thought for sure were gonna change hands? Great list, a lot of these really hurt the person/team when they didn't win. The main ones would be Luger at SSL93, Perfect at SSL93, Tatanka over HBK at WM9, and Luger again at WM10. Luger not winning at SSL93 when he was at his most popular point, hurt his credibility in the eyes of the fans. Then, he finally gets his rematch, only to come up short again, I really think that face Luger was done at this point. Bret and Taker were clearly past him at this point, with Razor very close, if not even. And you had Diesel catching on by the end of the year. Though, had he won the belt at WM10 over Yoko, only to lose it to Bret later that night, I can't see that being any better for him. Perfect really needed a big win with his return in 1992/93, I think holding the belt for a short while in 1993 would have helped his return, but losing three straight PPVs to Luger, Bret and HBK, didn't help, and he didn't do much after this. Though, I believe his back was still an issue, and didn't help as well. It really looked like Tatanka was on his way to the IC title, they built him up really well, and he was really popular at the time. Winning by count-out over HBK at WM9 didn't help, but not getting a rematch and then getting the win definitely hurt him. From there, he was pushed down the card and put in a feud with Bam Bam, then used as fodder to get over Ludvig Borga. Next, he was back to feuding with Bam Bam, then he was put in a go-no-wear feud with IRS. I think the best thing for him would have been for Luger to turn on Tatanka and join the Million Dollar Corporation. This way you have Tatanka as the guy the fans can root for to get back at Luger, and he would have been in a big feud with Luger at the time at the top of the card - it may have rejuvenated his run. For Orndorff, I really think he needed to win one of those matches against Hogan, even if he cheated to do so. The match in Toronto or the cage match on SNME would have been a good time to do it. I could definitely see him winning the belt through outside interference over Hogan at the Big Event in Toronto, then lose it back to him at SNME in the cage match. This way Hogan has the belt to start towards WM3 with Andre. Though, it would have been interesting to see Orndorff win over Hogan at The Big Event, then they do the SNME cage match with the tie finish, with Orndorff keeping the belt. It looks like Hogan has lost the belt for good. Then on the following SNME have a baby face Andre takes on Orndorff for the title, with Hogan in Andre's corner and Heenan in Orndorff's corner. In the match, have Andre turn heel, with the help of Heenan, and win the title. Then have Hogan run in and ask Andre what's going on, only to have Andre attack Hogan and leave him laying, then walkout as Champion with Heenan. It would be a double-turn situation, with Andre turning heel and aligning with Heenan, and Orndorff turning back face (eventually when he returns to get revenge on Heenan and the family). Then you set up WM3 of heel champion Andre vs. Hulk Hogan. Andre gets a short run with the belt, and at WM3, Hogan gets his belt back with the win over Andre. perfect scenerio for tatanka/luger & hulk/orndorff! luger needed to turn bad, not tatanka. |
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Post by Kill Em' All on Dec 18, 2022 3:45:09 GMT -5
Edge going over Jericho at WM 26
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 19, 2022 22:38:42 GMT -5
Road Warriors not beating Arn & Tully is a great shout....THAT was THE time to do it.
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Post by CM Tusk on Dec 20, 2022 1:30:25 GMT -5
A few Wrestlemania ones for me
Shayna over Becky at 36
Asuka over Charlotte at 34
Rock at 16
Booker at 19
Cena or Triple H at 24
Orton at 25
Cena at 27
Shamrock at 14
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Post by jason88cubs on Dec 20, 2022 9:38:09 GMT -5
Luger over Yoko at Summerslam. I still don't get it
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 20, 2022 14:47:01 GMT -5
Rock not winning at 16 turned out for the best. Sh#tty dead crowd & an overstuffed ME.
Backlash 2000 was an awesome dramatic match with a blistering hot crowd plus Austin had clearance to participate.
I thanks the wrestling gods daily Austin wasn't cleared to return at WM2000 & Vince had to push plans down the road to Backlash
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