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Post by jason88cubs on Dec 21, 2022 20:12:57 GMT -5
I was thinking about Savio earlier and he really is a forgotten guy from his era
Now he never won a title but he was in some notable feuds , he also debuted as Razor's friend and had a feud with Austin
He also fit the Nation of Domination well
I think once he got to Los Boricuas he started to falter.
He was released in 1999 and as far as I know he's never appeared on WWF/E television again
I also had a interest in him especially when he first debuted. He could have been a IC champ (he actually won title from Goldust but Monsoon reversed it) and he had some good reactions as well
Anyone else a fan?
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Post by The Brain on Dec 21, 2022 20:19:42 GMT -5
Dont forget his stint as Kwang
Wasnt really a fan of Savio. He had a helluva spin kick though
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Post by The Brain on Dec 21, 2022 21:37:58 GMT -5
Oh yeah almost forgot the ''Carribean Kid''
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 22, 2022 0:49:35 GMT -5
I liked Savio & feel they could have done more with him as a heel...his feud with Austin was very important to his rise as well. JR says its where Vince really started to have confidence in him....
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Post by hbkjason on Dec 22, 2022 2:36:23 GMT -5
I was really into his run at King of the Ring and his run with Austin was a fun mid card storyline.
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Post by jason88cubs on Dec 22, 2022 14:20:41 GMT -5
I was really into his run at King of the Ring and his run with Austin was a fun mid card storyline. Agree, I was always rooting for him. I just thought he was pretty cool
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 22, 2022 16:17:05 GMT -5
I was never a fan.
Though his BCA figure looked like a pug dog with how they made his eyes and face for it ha ha ha
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Post by nibs92 on Dec 24, 2022 12:07:53 GMT -5
Loved Kwang and Los Boricuas. Feud with Austin was good as well.
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Post by saintegenevieve on Dec 28, 2022 6:55:55 GMT -5
Kwang had the most upside since combat fighting games were popular at the time. Problem is that his body made for bad optics to pull that off. He looked more like E Honda than the stereotype
Savio Vega was an anachronism similar to Tatanka of an Ethnic Rican for a New York audience for a modern audience that was neither Puerto Rican nor Northeastern. He had decent fire, but he was unrelatable. He would have been a possible mainstay in the midcard in the 70s
That he was placed in the Nation of Domination was WWE trying to retain the Nation of Islam character of the group without delving into Afrocentrism that made for heat with the audience. Same with steroid peddler Crush. Why is a Rican and an Aryan Nations biker guy in the Nation? Clarence Mason was legitimately funny - a blowhard NOI attorney with an obnoxious affect typical of the NOI in public: "Lemme educate you!" The gimmick didn't go over since it was transparently phony otherwise
The gang wars made for good TV and a thin budget between the Truth Commission, Disciplines of Apocalypse, Nation of Domination, and Los Boricaus
- Truth Commission: crafted by that hillbilly Jerry Jarrett since he thinks, being a Movement Conservative hack, Tennessee racists would be scared of pro-apartheid South Afrikaners (race traitors to them, basically). To whatever degree that got over in Tennessee, I don't know, but it only made for cool optics in the WWF. Why would a national audience care about pro-apartheid group when Boomers had a knack for name-dropping MLK (equality) and Hitler (evil) any time they had to chime in their political opinions? It was nothing more than filler. This gets dumber once it's known that two are French Canadians and one is American
- Nation of Domination finally started to make sense since everyone in that group was black. Again, this is a "ripped from the headlines" Nation of Islam interpretation. It makes no sense to add non-blacks to the group, especially when one knows Louis Farrakhan's politics?
- Disciples of Apocalypse was more convincing. Pretty much a babyface Aryan Nations biker gang. Group died when Crush left since Chainz was a connected indy wrestler at best. Crush, who did objectively suck, as one of the more plodding, uninspiring big wrestlers ever employed, yet seemingly present for a decade, was the most experienced
- Los Boricaus made sense in terms of being all plausibly of the same ethnicity. Problem is Perez was a jobber who might have won a match on Superstars; Estrada and Castillo were unknowns with no real introduction. Perez was the most amusing since his back hair was gross. Konnan played a better cholo than all of them. Boricaus had a funny theme song
I just think WWF had no idea what to do with him. His body was unimpressive, his peak was as a face, Kwang had the greatest upside except he couldn't play the character, and he kind of meandered for the rest as an ad hoc filler character or as a stock character. At least he was more culturally relevant under the Los Boricaus than as a Caribbean folk hero in an era whose audience no longer resonated with that. And Konnan played a better cholo in every sense
WWF 1996-1997 was weird like that: Scott Putski, Rocky Maivia, New Blackjacks, Savio Vega. Seemed like McMahon was experimenting with 70's style gimmicks, only for all of them to be roundly rejected.
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Post by tmnt316 on Dec 28, 2022 7:10:02 GMT -5
Somewhat liked him cause he looked like my PE teacher who was super cool.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Dec 30, 2022 23:42:16 GMT -5
Kwang will forever be one of my favorite New Gen gimmick jobbers. I would buy that Mattel figure immediately if they ever released one.
Savio was fine, but I think they made a major mistake by pushing him way too hard out of the gate. He was barely a month in by the time of King of the Ring 1995 when he had THREE matches in one night on PPV. Way too much exposure for a guy that the audience barely knew let alone actually cared about. He will unfortunately always have the stink of that event on his resume.
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Post by The Brain on Dec 31, 2022 10:04:16 GMT -5
Kwang will forever be one of my favorite New Gen gimmick jobbers. I would buy that Mattel figure immediately if they ever released one. Savio was fine, but I think they made a major mistake by pushing him way too hard out of the gate. He was barely a month in by the time of King of the Ring 1995 when he had THREE matches in one night on PPV. Way too much exposure for a guy that the audience barely knew let alone actually cared about. He will unfortunately always have the stink of that event on his resume.Yeah their attempt at making him Rocky like in Philly failed miserably
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Post by jason88cubs on Feb 15, 2023 19:06:26 GMT -5
may have been his lowest moment
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