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Post by Weemanv1 on Jan 29, 2023 17:34:03 GMT -5
That men's rumble was something else, arguably a top 3 for me.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 29, 2023 18:06:46 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the mens RR. Cody winning felt right and dammit Gunther looked like an absolute stallion in there. Unreal.
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Post by Scott! on Jan 29, 2023 18:38:11 GMT -5
Men’s Rumble was fantastic, very happy for Cody. Rhea winning from number 1 was so well done as well.
The ending to the Roman/Owens was edge of the seat cinema. That’s the loudest pop I’ve heard since the Hardy’s at Wrestlemania 33, Sami finally turning on the bloodline was insane.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jan 29, 2023 20:16:49 GMT -5
I thought the Pitch Black match looked really cool 🤷♂️ Reminded me of laser tag
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Jan 29, 2023 21:28:20 GMT -5
Still think it was too early to have Jey defy Roman at all. This storyline with Sami been going on for 10 months lol how is it too soon For anyone from the original Bloodline to start walking away from Roman. That shouldn’t happen until after WrestleMania. Where the Bloodline eventually implode. Last night should’ve been the beatdown of Sami Zayn. With either Jey attacking with Jimmy… or Jey being hesitant, but eventually giving into Roman.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 29, 2023 22:03:30 GMT -5
Still think it was too early to have Jey defy Roman at all. This storyline with Sami been going on for 10 months lol how is it too soon And over two years of Roman bullying and gaslighting Jey.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jan 29, 2023 22:04:18 GMT -5
Cole made the moment for me when he said "The American Nightmare is one step closer to The American Dream" and in the moment I took it literally as main eventing WM being a wrestler's American dream but after a second I got the deeper meaning. Just the icing on the moment. One step closer to his father and making him proud by making his own (first) name mean something special in it's own light. Well done.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 29, 2023 22:17:42 GMT -5
I also think after last night there's serious potential for Logan Paul as a heel. The fans don't like or want him...push him as this sh#tbird outsider that thinks wrestling is a joke. The people were thrilled when he got tossed sat night. It was a great pop.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 29, 2023 22:29:25 GMT -5
I’d say the men’s Rumble was a good match but I gotta rewatch it again to see how good it was. I usually end up liking it much more than the first time.
The thing is people will hate it cos they thought Rock Austin etc will show up & I also hoped for it but I still enjoyed the match. The thing is you gotta watch it as a fan & not a over analyser tbh.
If people hated it then it’s cool btw, if they thought it was the worst match ever they it’s still cool, everyone entitled to their opinions anyways but I thought it was a good one. I’d say it don’t get worse than 2022,2014,2015, etc.
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Post by wolvenbear on Jan 30, 2023 4:33:40 GMT -5
I had a whole lot of meh with the Rumble. I couldn't care less about Cody winning. There were certainly worse picks (Omos, Dominick Mysterio, Baron Corbin), but I still do not see the excitement of making Goldust's much less talented younger brother main event. Cody Rhodes v Roman Reigns is not a match I would watch. I would actually prefer they keep it on Reigns, as he is the better wrestler.
The pitch black match was a stupid gimmick, and it was done with an exceptionally mediocre wrestler: LA Knight. A watered down version of the Fiend is not really catching me. Having the Firefly Funhouse puppets be real people is just weird. The Uncle Howdy gimmick turns me off of Wyatt, which is a shame, because the Fiend was one of the more interesting characters they have created in a decade.
Bianca vs Bliss should have been better. They're both really entertaining. I was disappointed in how bad and sloppy it was. I don't know why this wasn't great. On paper, its an amazing match.
The Women's Rumble was the high spot of the night. It was one of the best Rumbles I have ever seen. Well played from beginning to end. My 6/10 for this PPV rests pretty much on this match.
Reigns v Owens part umpteenth was entirely predictible. Unlike others of you, I found zero drama. Since Reigns has beaten Owens like 20 times in this title reign alone, there was never really any question who would win. This was nowhere near as good as their last man standing. It wasn't a bad match, but it also wasn't main event caliber. They made it pretty obvious Zayn was going to turn on Reigns, but then completely made it no big deal by beating him down. That could have been done well, but it wasn't. An underwhelming end to a predictable match.
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Post by Butchers on Jan 30, 2023 9:14:48 GMT -5
Why is predictable bad? Cody was the right choice to win. Rhea was the right choice to win.
I also never understand how someone can say they don't watch the product very closely, but yet don't understand why certain things are done. E.g. Brock and Lashley going out mid way through. If they aren't winning, then you can tell the story of their upcoming Mania match anywhere during the Rumble match. Which if you'd watch the product you would know that was happening as they've been building towards it.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jan 30, 2023 10:19:07 GMT -5
I’ve seen several posts across multiple platforms basically saying “how am I supposed to believe skinny Cody can beat Roman?”
That’s pretty laughable.
I guess it was okay thinking Styles or Bryan or Punk could beat Lesnar but how the hell can Cody beat Roman? How could a guy the same height and probably 40lbs lighter beat him? Gotta be impossible, right?
Right?
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2023 10:30:11 GMT -5
Sometimes predictable is the way to go & Cody was a good choice to win the Rumble, hopefully he wins the big one at Mania.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jan 30, 2023 10:34:18 GMT -5
I’ve seen several posts across multiple platforms basically saying “how am I supposed to believe skinny Cody can beat Roman?” That’s pretty laughable. I guess it was okay thinking Styles or Bryan or Punk could beat Lesnar but how the hell can Cody beat Roman? How could a guy the same height and probably 40lbs lighter beat him? Gotta be impossible, right? Right? I think some folks look for any reason to not be a fan of something or someone because they already made up their mind on it/them before giving it/them a chance. Then every small detail or discrepancy is amplified 10x so they can feel justified in their feelings when in actuality you don't need a reason to not like a character and nobody really cares if you don't enjoy them either. However, blaming it on simple minded stuff like height or weight when Rey, Bryan, Punk, Styles, Christian and so many more cruiserweights/lightweights have held the big one is weird to me. Nitpicking when and where authenticity or realism should matter in sports entertainment is absolute clown activity. If you have a problem with suspension of disbelief, then you're watching the wrong product imo. EDIT: an example, because I've done it too (albeit jokingly) is Johnny Gargano. Loved his run in NXT with DIY and his feud with Ciampa was stellar. I loathe him on the main roster. Idk if it's his booking or his lackluster storylines but he has fallen completely flat for me so I poke fun at him being the same size as a referee. I still hope he finds his footing and gets a solid IC or US Championship run. I never think to myself "wow he can't win because he's smaller than his opponent" bc that mindset doesn't make any sense when wrestling has been running David/Goliath programs for decades. Andre/Hogan. 123 Kid/Razor Ramon. HBK/Diesel and the list goes on.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jan 30, 2023 10:55:24 GMT -5
I’ve seen several posts across multiple platforms basically saying “how am I supposed to believe skinny Cody can beat Roman?” That’s pretty laughable. I guess it was okay thinking Styles or Bryan or Punk could beat Lesnar but how the hell can Cody beat Roman? How could a guy the same height and probably 40lbs lighter beat him? Gotta be impossible, right? Right? I think some folks look for any reason to not be a fan of something or someone because they already made up their mind on it/them before giving it/them a chance. Then every small detail or discrepancy is amplified 10x so they can feel justified in their feelings when in actuality you don't need a reason to not like a character and nobody really cares if you don't enjoy them either. However, blaming it on simple minded stuff like height or weight when Rey, Bryan, Punk, Styles, Christian and so many more cruiserweights/lightweights have held the big one is weird to me. Nitpicking when and where authenticity or realism should matter in sports entertainment is absolute clown activity. If you have a problem with suspension of disbelief, then you're watching the wrong product imo. EDIT: an example, because I've done it too (albeit jokingly) is Johnny Gargano. Loved his run in NXT with DIY and his feud with Ciampa was stellar. I loathe him on the main roster. Idk if it's his booking or his lackluster storylines but he has fallen completely flat for me so I poke fun at him being the same size as a referee. I still hope he finds his footing and gets a solid IC or US Championship run. I never think to myself "wow he can't win because he's smaller than his opponent" bc that mindset doesn't make any sense when wrestling has been running David/Goliath programs for decades. Andre/Hogan. 123 Kid/Razor Ramon. HBK/Diesel and the list goes on. You hit the nail on the head. I’m about the same way on Gargano. I think he’s boring but he’s got a fanbase and just because he doesn’t do anything for me doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve a spot on the roster, title run, etc I love Cody. I’ve become a massive fan. I want him to beat Roman clean and have a nice title run as I think he deserves it. Not everyone does, and that’s perfectly fine. I understand why some people don’t like him I do feel like there’s still a good portion of fans in the “it’s still real to me dammit” sector and comments like “how can skinny Cody beat Roman” or “Roman can’t win without cheating” - lol of course he can. Anyone can beat anyone if that’s the way it’s booked
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Jan 30, 2023 12:51:30 GMT -5
I had a whole lot of meh with the Rumble. I couldn't care less about Cody winning. There were certainly worse picks (Omos, Dominick Mysterio, Baron Corbin), but I still do not see the excitement of making Goldust's much less talented younger brother main event. Cody Rhodes v Roman Reigns is not a match I would watch. I would actually prefer they keep it on Reigns, as he is the better wrestler. The pitch black match was a stupid gimmick, and it was done with an exceptionally mediocre wrestler: LA Knight. A watered down version of the Fiend is not really catching me. Having the Firefly Funhouse puppets be real people is just weird. The Uncle Howdy gimmick turns me off of Wyatt, which is a shame, because the Fiend was one of the more interesting characters they have created in a decade. Bianca vs Bliss should have been better. They're both really entertaining. I was disappointed in how bad and sloppy it was. I don't know why this wasn't great. On paper, its an amazing match. The Women's Rumble was the high spot of the night. It was one of the best Rumbles I have ever seen. Well played from beginning to end. My 6/10 for this PPV rests pretty much on this match. Reigns v Owens part umpteenth was entirely predictible. Unlike others of you, I found zero drama. Since Reigns has beaten Owens like 20 times in this title reign alone, there was never really any question who would win. This was nowhere near as good as their last man standing. It wasn't a bad match, but it also wasn't main event caliber. They made it pretty obvious Zayn was going to turn on Reigns, but then completely made it no big deal by beating him down. That could have been done well, but it wasn't. An underwhelming end to a predictable match. Sounds like you just shouldn’t watch to be honest, especially If the ending was no drama and not entertaining to you. Men’s rumble was good, women’s rumble was good, main event was good and the ending was great. Pitch black match was the carny aspect that wrestling has always had. Bianca and Alexa was really the only stinker. But if the women’s match was all that did it for you, I don’t think you’re going to enjoy much of any of the programs.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2023 15:16:53 GMT -5
I read that the Rumble was the highest grossing gate in its history while making 7.7 million, nearly 8 million! Impressive numbers.
It also said the merchandise & sponsorship numbers were the highest it’s been & the videos of the Bloodline/Sami & Logan Paul done big numbers on YouTube & social media, they are the highest Viewed WWE videos of 2023 so far.
The PPV was entertaining for me overall and it’s good to know that it is was a success
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Post by cableV on Jan 30, 2023 16:51:55 GMT -5
- All-time gate record at more than $7.7 million, far surpassing the previous Royal Rumble high in 2017 by more than 50 percent.
- Viewership of the event saw a 52 percent increase versus the previous record set in 2022.
- The 2023 Royal Rumble broke all-time venue merchandise and sponsorship records. - Merchandise sales were up 135 percent versus the record set in 2022. - Royal Rumble sponsorship revenue was up nearly 200 percent versus 2022 and featured the first-ever sponsored match (MTN DEW PITCH BLACK) and sponsored countdown clock (Applebee’s).
On social, the Roman Reigns-Sami Zayn videos generated 20 million-plus views across all WWE platforms and became the most-viewed WWE clip of 2023. Additional highlights include Logan Paul and Ricochet’s high-flying collision which amassed 26.5 million views across WWE and Paul’s platforms, and the launch of Reigns’ TikTok account which netted 100K followers in the first 24 hours.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jan 30, 2023 17:11:16 GMT -5
- All-time gate record at more than $7.7 million, far surpassing the previous Royal Rumble high in 2017 by more than 50 percent. - Viewership of the event saw a 52 percent increase versus the previous record set in 2022. - The 2023 Royal Rumble broke all-time venue merchandise and sponsorship records. - Merchandise sales were up 135 percent versus the record set in 2022. - Royal Rumble sponsorship revenue was up nearly 200 percent versus 2022 and featured the first-ever sponsored match (MTN DEW PITCH BLACK) and sponsored countdown clock (Applebee’s). On social, the Roman Reigns-Sami Zayn videos generated 20 million-plus views across all WWE platforms and became the most-viewed WWE clip of 2023. Additional highlights include Logan Paul and Ricochet’s high-flying collision which amassed 26.5 million views across WWE and Paul’s platforms, and the launch of Reigns’ TikTok account which netted 100K followers in the first 24 hours. Damn! Very impressive
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Post by wolvenbear on Jan 30, 2023 23:43:40 GMT -5
Sounds like you just shouldn’t watch to be honest, especially If the ending was no drama and not entertaining to you. Men’s rumble was good, women’s rumble was good, main event was good and the ending was great. Pitch black match was the carny aspect that wrestling has always had. Bianca and Alexa was really the only stinker. But if the women’s match was all that did it for you, I don’t think you’re going to enjoy much of any of the programs. Which would be a failing of the company, not of me. But moving on. I'm sorry, but what part would you say is dramatic? Was it that you knew, going in, that Kevin Owens had no chance of winning? Was it the dragged out beatdown that has occurred afterwards, which has actually been the end of at least 3 Reigns/KO matches? Was it the predictable turn of Sami Zayn, which WWE has been telegraphing since at least a week ago? What part of "completely predictable and obvious" does it for you? Because we can agree that the match was decent, but it was not amazing, and it will not be remembered even later this year. If you were pleased with the show, cool. I'm happy for you. I was not. And it's a bit presumptuous to tell someone that they shouldn't watch wrestling because they disagree with your take. And considering that the general take of EVERYONE is "this was ok but nothing amazing" (average ratings of B- to C+ on most sites), it seems egotistical to tell someone falling in the general range that they are wrong.
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