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Post by tenup on Jan 12, 2023 16:32:59 GMT -5
Those of us who were watching the Monday night wars know how hot the Outsiders angle was at the time. Well I remember when the bash at the beach ppv happened my dad guessed the third man would be Yokozuna who was out of WWE at the time and that gave us lots of anticipation because we were huge fans of Yoko. If it did turn out to be Yokozuna I think the Outsiders would have been more ruthless as Kevin Nash stated that Hogan held them back from working a shoot style angle.
If the third man had been Yokozuna it would really have felt like a WWF invasion angle because Hogan (although did raise interest in the angle) was already an established WCW member of the roster. Does anyone else think Yokozuna would've been a good fit for the Outsiders storyline?
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Post by jason88cubs on Jan 12, 2023 17:13:45 GMT -5
Hmmmm...He would have had to be like a enforcer type. It wouldn't have caused a massive deal like Hogan turning did
I could see Yoko as a guy who never talked as mostly Nash did and Yoko did all the dirty work
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Post by tmnt316 on Jan 12, 2023 17:19:49 GMT -5
NWO angle probably gets forgotten about in a couple months and he probably starts jobbing to Giant a lot.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 12, 2023 18:04:48 GMT -5
It would have been a disaster. Yokozuna was a charisma bypass and so overweight that getting him cleared to compete in some states was becoming difficult. It also wouldn't have had the WTF factor that Hogan had.
I was eagerly awaiting this in 1996 and watching regularly at the time. If Yoko had come plodding out it would have been a serious anti climax. Most were expecting Bret Hart because he had been off WWF TV for even longer than Hall & Nash but they topped that(IMHO) with Hogan's turn.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jan 12, 2023 19:35:14 GMT -5
Too big
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jan 12, 2023 19:39:07 GMT -5
Yokozuna was unfortunately a shell of the superstar he had been by 1996.
Definitely a favorite of mine from the New Generation era, but after his big push from 1993-94, Yoko fell down the card and his weight kept going up to the point where he could do very little in the ring without getting blown up immediately.
He would not have had anywhere near the impact that Hogan had being the third man of the nWo.
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Post by The Brain on Jan 12, 2023 19:46:50 GMT -5
Yeah imagine how deflated the crowd would be if he came out.Plus his weight issues like mentioned were a big issue
Big fan of Yoko.Was glad he got a nice WWF Title run but yeah this wouldve bombed hard
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jan 12, 2023 19:59:59 GMT -5
Yeah imagine how deflated the crowd would be if he came out.Plus his weight issues like mentioned were a big issue Big fan of Yoko.Was glad he got a nice WWF Title run but yeah this wouldve bombed hard If Yoko could've just stayed around the weight he was at in late 92/early 93 his main event stature would have continued even after he lost the title. Unfortunately, all of that mobility and agility disappeared completely once he started to really pack on the pounds. By the time he returned at WrestleMania XI, he had become a liability in the ring. |
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 12, 2023 20:07:45 GMT -5
The only people I think could have worked outside Hogan would have been Bret or Shawn and neither of them was going ever going to be an option in 96.
Not only did it need to be Hogan. Hogan needed it to be him.
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Post by MKSavage on Jan 12, 2023 22:10:38 GMT -5
The only people I think could have worked outside Hogan would have been Bret or Shawn and neither of them was going ever going to be an option in 96. Not only did it need to be Hogan. Hogan needed it to be him. I have to agree with this. Only Bret and Shawn from the WWF would have been a good option, either of them joining would have given it more of a WWF invasion feel. But it had to be Hogan, he needed the change, and him becoming a heel after so many years brought a lot of fans back. Sting may have been the only other guy it could have been, him turning would have been shocking, but I still don't believe it would have been as big a deal like it was with Hogan. For Yoko, it was too late for him. Like others have said, his wait was becoming too much of an issue, he lost of mobility. At most, he would have been an enforcer-type performer, not really having a lot of matches. |
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 12, 2023 22:32:54 GMT -5
Even if Yoko was in shape lads? this would have stunk out the place....nowhere near the needle mover required to make this angle hot enough for success.
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Post by hbkjason on Jan 13, 2023 0:53:34 GMT -5
Nash and Hall were so freaking cool, Yokozuna is about as uncool as you can get! I just do not see this working in anyway at all, when the WWF eventually let Yokozuna talk for that short while it was horrible! Not to mention that by 1996 he was is terrible shape. It had to be Hogan for this to explode the way that it did.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jan 13, 2023 17:02:46 GMT -5
He wouldn’t have lasted, both JR and Cornette said the reason they had to let him go is because he couldn’t even get licensed to perform in a lot of states anymore.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 13, 2023 17:48:30 GMT -5
It would make zero sense whatsoever!
The only men who would make sense being the third man and having it still be successful are Hogan, Savage, Sting, Luger, or Bret Hart. That's it.
Yokozuna as the leader of the NWO?? No way! I honestly wouldn't even want to see him as a member of the group. He just wouldn't fit.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 13, 2023 18:55:33 GMT -5
Early 90s Yoko would have been interesting but 96 Yoko was way too big and wasnt nearly as athletic. It would have been a dumpster fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 23:34:37 GMT -5
only hogan, bret, shawn or maybe ultimate warrior woulda made it as big as it was IMO speaking of Bash at the Beach 96, here is a cool custom poster i saw fro it recently: Attachment Deleted |
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Post by MKSavage on Jan 14, 2023 1:42:37 GMT -5
only hogan, bret, shawn or maybe ultimate warrior woulda made it as big as it was IMO speaking of Bash at the Beach 96, here is a cool custom poster i saw fro it recently: View AttachmentWarrior is definitely an interesting option. But I don't know if he would have gone as far as Hogan did as a heel, not sure Warrior would have allowed himself to look like a wimp the way Hogan did for other guys. But in terms of name recognition, he would be a viable option. Also, that poster is amazing. Those 1991 and 1992 posters/VHS covers were my favorites. I would love to see someone do that style for all Royal Rumble events (at least for the ones I watched 1988-2002), and some other events like War Games or Survivor Series. |
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Post by hbkjason on Jan 14, 2023 2:33:18 GMT -5
only hogan, bret, shawn or maybe ultimate warrior woulda made it as big as it was IMO speaking of Bash at the Beach 96, here is a cool custom poster i saw fro it recently: View AttachmentDude that is an awesome take all three of those guys would make for such interesting possibilities! While I think Warrior would be the wild card with clever booking you could make it work. I actually think Shawn or Bret would have made it work too, especially Bret given how good a heel faction leader he was in 97. |
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Post by MKSavage on Jan 14, 2023 15:28:41 GMT -5
only hogan, bret, shawn or maybe ultimate warrior woulda made it as big as it was IMO speaking of Bash at the Beach 96, here is a cool custom poster i saw fro it recently: View AttachmentDude that is an awesome take all three of those guys would make for such interesting possibilities! While I think Warrior would be the wild card with clever booking you could make it work. I actually think Shawn or Bret would have made it work too, especially Bret given how good a heel faction leader he was in 97. Yeah, both Shawn and Bret could have made it work, they were probably the two best workers at this time in wrestling (in-ring wise), and they could both play the heel character well. Shawn probably would have meshed better with Hall and Nash, but Bret probably would have been a better leader of the group, I feel at that time, he was a bigger name than HBK. But in the end, I do think Hogan was the best option for the 3rd guy, no one had a more recognizable name in the wrestling world - both to wrestling fans and non-wrestling fans - than him. Plus, him turning was the icing on the cake that the group needed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 17:45:03 GMT -5
not sure if he'd mesh well with hall/nash but piper may have worked as well acting all crazy like he used to.
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