Does Hogan Get Physical Monday?

This is about to get locked, so I'll say one final thing.


See, this is what I'm talking about. He's clearly a polarizing figure both among fans and wrestlers, and I absolutely understand why, I'd be pissed if I thought he stifled my career too (yet all of these guys still made millions of dollars in the wrestling business, but they didn't get a fake belt off of a specific person or a specific person took a belt off of them). What a bubble we all must live in if the flaws of Terry Bollea warrant the level of hatred that he gets.

I mean, what are the actual transgressions?
Selfish, egotistical, shoots off at the mouth, lies/exaggerations, cutthroat businessman, abused creative control to keep himself on top, held guys down, not so bright in anything non-business related, that doesn't work for me brother (and I'm being critical because several of those are basically parts of the same transgression and the last one is just for fun). That about cover it? (I'm not using racist, because 1 - I don't believe it based on anything else that he's done before or since the tape and 2 - it's become a low-hanging fruit that people use to justify their vitriolic hatred). Yet he gets treated like he's a hair below Benoit, and I don't think anyone has ever compared Benoit to a Nazi! Nobody wants to talk or hear about all of the good that he did. Forget the charity work, how fan friendly he always was, how he was a good company man and role model, how he went overseas to visit the troops in a time when he was the only one to do so, all of the Make a Wish stuff, forget it all. He didn't want to drop the belt to Bret Hart in 93 so none of that matters.

Look, all I'm trying to do is provide some perspective (which is all too often a fool's errand on WFIGS). You don't have to celebrate him, you can dislike or resent him, but you have to acknowledge him, and you cannot devalue what he accomplished no matter how hard you try. As a fan of the character and as someone who recognizes the man's many many many faults and also takes into account that pro wrestling was a very different business that attracted far different personalities then than it does today I can set aside the man from the character. I'm also sympathetic to the fact that he is a human being who happened to have a level of charisma that allowed him to play the role of a live-action 1980's superhero in a time where everything was turned up to 100. It would be hard not to let it all completely go to your head. I'm not here to tear other guys down, but the many misdeeds of so many others have been well documented, yet those are forgotten and those men are given a pass whereas Hogan didn't put over your favorites, so he's a Nazi. Absolutely ludicrous comparison.

That said, I'm also good if he doesn't ever return to WWE television, which is kind of what this should be all about. If you look at this from a logical perspective there's no reason that EVERY Hogan thread has to devolve into this ridiculous fighting.

Edited for spelling error

Heh...I knew somebody would go there.

Nobody (including myself, who exercised the analogy) is comparing Hogan to a Nazi. That's one of the fun little intricacies of discourse on the internet - you use two hot button phrases in proximity to one another, and suddenly all the other words get pared down until you're just left with "Hogan...NAZI!" which isn't even close to what happened here.

It's an extreme analogy, yes, but that's sort of the point - there are familiarities - be it a brand of vehicle or a sports entertainment empire - in everyday life that have histories and backgrounds that do not age well as society slowly tilts toward some sort of self-equilibrium. We don't necessarily need to cast them out of our lives, but we've all got our own way of making peace with the things we like.

Does WWE and, by extension, pro-wrestling (or Volkswagen) exist in 2023 without the contributions of Hulk Hogan or Vince McMahon (or the Nazi party)? No, of course not.
Do we need to continue to celebrate Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon (or the Nazi party) in 2023 as a prerequisite to enjoying WWE's continued output (or driving Volkswagen vehicles)? No, of course not.

An analogy is a comparison, so you did in fact compare them. I feel that the analogy is over the top, so we're going to have to agree to disagree on whether it's cogent, although I won't begrudge you your opinion. I'm not going to put words in your mouth (I acknowledge that you never said he actually was a Nazi), so going solely by what was written this is likely going to have to be chalked up to a disagreement about whether Hogan should still be celebrated, which based on his accomplishments vs his transgressions (compared with those of the Nazi party) I think that he is owed at least that much by the company that he helped become viable enough to still exist. I mean, they don't have to beat us over the head with it, but a simple one-off appearance here and there should be allowed if he wants to do one. Many of us do want to celebrate him, and it isn't (yet) a minority between those who just don't want to see him at all. There are probably a lot who don't care either way though.

I was actually going to tag you in this thread a few hours back, Hogan needed his #1 fan to defend him but you made it on your own after all. I'm proud of you champ.

I never claimed to hate Hogan either, that's just your interpretation of my saying he's a relic that belongs in the past and not in the ring.

Y’all writing essays about Hulk Hogan in 2023 is way more cringey than Hogan cutting a one off promo on a wwe show in 2023 tbh

All of the Hogan disrespect in this thread is so refreshing.

If not for Hogan NONE of us are even typing in this thread. So respect your elders

Sorry if you can’t read above a fourth grade level, but it takes more than three lines in a discussion to contribute anything of merit.


Can we close this topic already? I want theman to do another Hogan figure scenario post, preferably something set in a Michelin star restaurant that devolves into a food fight over Hogan figures.

OP I find you very entertaining even if I’m not entirely sure that you’re not satirizing Hogan stans 🤣