nibs92
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Post by nibs92 on Mar 21, 2023 12:37:36 GMT -5
This has probably been covered before but how did the WWF explain the Ultimate Warriors absence after Summerslam 91? Was he mentioned on tv after his firing?
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Post by The Brain on Mar 21, 2023 14:08:42 GMT -5
He was just completely ignored.They just moved on with Jake/Mach with no mention of em at all
On one hand it's a shame he left as a feud with Jake was intriguing but on the other we wouldve never got the feud with Mach so in the end I'm glad the things went the way they did
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 21, 2023 15:18:27 GMT -5
Yeah he was just ignored....there was talk of shooting an angle where the UT beat the snot outta a body double and stick him in a coffin but Vince likely already knew he was gonna take him back at some point and wanted to preserve him....
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 21, 2023 16:06:13 GMT -5
Now the question is, what would Survivor Series look like had Warrior not been fired? Would Hogan and Taker have faced off in a one-on-one match? Or would Jake and Taker be with the Natural Disasters against Warrior, Sid and LOD. If Warrior isn't fired, do they still do Jake and Taker crashing Macho's wedding? They could still do that, with Warrior and Sid making the save. Jake could still antagonize Savage on the mic each week, and we could still get the snake bite incident. Since Sid ended up getting injured, Warrior would need another man for his team, would he ask Savage to join him as his fourth team member? Warrior, Macho, and LOD vs. Jake, Taker, and the Disasters would have been huge.
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Post by The Brain on Mar 21, 2023 16:11:27 GMT -5
Now the question is, what would Survivor Series look like had Warrior not been fired? Would Hogan and Taker have faced off in a one-on-one match? Or would Jake and Taker be with the Natural Disasters against Warrior, Sid and LOD. If Warrior isn't fired, do they still do Jake and Taker crashing Macho's wedding? They could still do that, with Warrior and Sid making the save. Jake could still antagonize Savage on the mic each week, and we could still get the snake bite incident. Since Sid ended up getting injured, Warrior would need another man for his team, would he ask Savage to join him as his fourth team member? Warrior, Macho, and LOD vs. Jake, Taker, and the Disasters would have been huge. Only downside to this is we wouldnt get Taker beating the pukester to win his 1st World Title and cementing em as a star.But other than that this works 100% Who challenges Hogan for the belt though? Do they go the Warlord route since it was teased or do they even have a WWF Title match on the show? Interesting to think about |
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nibs92
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Post by nibs92 on Mar 21, 2023 16:23:07 GMT -5
Some interesting scenarios. Hogan v Flair at SSeries with Flair taking the belt. Rematch at WM8.
Crazy to think that if warrior stayed, the whole course would have changed. RR92 would have been different for sure and not for the better.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 21, 2023 16:23:15 GMT -5
Now the question is, what would Survivor Series look like had Warrior not been fired? Would Hogan and Taker have faced off in a one-on-one match? Or would Jake and Taker be with the Natural Disasters against Warrior, Sid and LOD. If Warrior isn't fired, do they still do Jake and Taker crashing Macho's wedding? They could still do that, with Warrior and Sid making the save. Jake could still antagonize Savage on the mic each week, and we could still get the snake bite incident. Since Sid ended up getting injured, Warrior would need another man for his team, would he ask Savage to join him as his fourth team member? Warrior, Macho, and LOD vs. Jake, Taker, and the Disasters would have been huge. Only downside to this is we wouldnt get Taker beating the pukester to win his 1st World Title and cementing em as a star.But other than that this works 100% Who challenges Hogan for the belt though? Do they go the Warlord route since it was teased or do they even have a WWF Title match on the show? Interesting to think about That could be the most likely challenger for a one-off match, but Warlord had been beaten by Bulldog a bunch by this point, so he wouldn't have been a serious threat like Taker. Plus, we need to keep him in the Flair/Piper match that way Warlord and Bulldog can still work all PPVs in 1991 together... Maybe the best thing to do is something similar to the Lex/Yoko series match in 1993. Have the Natural Disasters injure either Hawk or Animal leaving another spot open, then bring in Hogan. Or, have Hogan be the one to replace the injured Sid, then have Hogan kind of force Warrior to ask for Savage to be on the team to replace the injured LOD member. Warrior/Hogan/Macho/Animal vs. Jake/Taker/Quake/Typhoon could work. Hogan got involved with Taker earlier in the year, so he would fit in with that, and he had history with Quake and Typhoon, so there's that. They could do just 4 survivor series matches, just give the Flair/Piper and Warrior/Jake matches more time to make up the difference from losing the Hogan/Taker match. Having Taker and Hogan in this match could set up a match on Tuesday in Texas - with Taker winning. Have Taker and Hogan get taken out of the match by count-out, have them brawl all the way back to the locker room. This would leave Warrior and Savage vs. just Jake. Have Warrior and Savage not work well together, like their match with the Nasty Boys in 1992, this causes Jake to eliminate Savage, then Warrior eliminates Jake. |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 21, 2023 16:27:12 GMT -5
Some interesting scenarios. Hogan v Flair at SSeries with Flair taking the belt. Rematch at WM8. Crazy to think that if warrior stayed, the whole course would have changed. RR92 would have been different for sure and not for the better. And, we wouldn't have gotten that great return at WM8.  |
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Post by The Brain on Mar 21, 2023 16:29:24 GMT -5
Only downside to this is we wouldnt get Taker beating the pukester to win his 1st World Title and cementing em as a star.But other than that this works 100% Who challenges Hogan for the belt though? Do they go the Warlord route since it was teased or do they even have a WWF Title match on the show? Interesting to think about That could be the most likely challenger for a one-off match, but Warlord had been beaten by Bulldog a bunch by this point, so he wouldn't have been a serious threat like Taker. Plus, we need to keep him in the Flair/Piper match that way Warlord and Bulldog can still work all PPVs in 1991 together... Maybe the best thing to do is something similar to the Lex/Yoko series match in 1993. Have the Natural Disasters injure either Hawk or Animal leaving another spot open, then bring in Hogan. Or, have Hogan be the one to replace the injured Sid, then have Hogan kind of force Warrior to ask for Savage to be on the team to replace the injured LOD member. Warrior/Hogan/Macho/Animal vs. Jake/Taker/Quake/Typhoon could work. Hogan got involved with Taker earlier in the year, so he would fit in with that, and he had history with Quake and Typhoon, so there's that. They could do just 4 survivor series matches, just give the Flair/Piper and Warrior/Jake matches more time to make up the difference from losing the Hogan/Taker match. Having Taker and Hogan in this match could set up a match on Tuesday in Texas - with Taker winning. Have Taker and Hogan get taken out of the match by count-out, have them brawl all the way back to the locker room. This would leave Warrior and Savage vs. just Jake. Have Warrior and Savage not work well together, like their match with the Nasty Boys in 1992, this causes Jake to eliminate Savage, then Warrior eliminates Jake. What about the Rumble match then? Does the WWF Title get vacated and put up for grabs? If it doesnt then it wouldnt be fair to Flair! |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 21, 2023 16:33:30 GMT -5
That could be the most likely challenger for a one-off match, but Warlord had been beaten by Bulldog a bunch by this point, so he wouldn't have been a serious threat like Taker. Plus, we need to keep him in the Flair/Piper match that way Warlord and Bulldog can still work all PPVs in 1991 together... Maybe the best thing to do is something similar to the Lex/Yoko series match in 1993. Have the Natural Disasters injure either Hawk or Animal leaving another spot open, then bring in Hogan. Or, have Hogan be the one to replace the injured Sid, then have Hogan kind of force Warrior to ask for Savage to be on the team to replace the injured LOD member. Warrior/Hogan/Macho/Animal vs. Jake/Taker/Quake/Typhoon could work. Hogan got involved with Taker earlier in the year, so he would fit in with that, and he had history with Quake and Typhoon, so there's that. They could do just 4 survivor series matches, just give the Flair/Piper and Warrior/Jake matches more time to make up the difference from losing the Hogan/Taker match. Having Taker and Hogan in this match could set up a match on Tuesday in Texas - with Taker winning. Have Taker and Hogan get taken out of the match by count-out, have them brawl all the way back to the locker room. This would leave Warrior and Savage vs. just Jake. Have Warrior and Savage not work well together, like their match with the Nasty Boys in 1992, this causes Jake to eliminate Savage, then Warrior eliminates Jake. What about the Rumble match then? Does the WWF Title get vacated and put up for grabs? If it doesnt then it wouldnt be fair to Flair! Yeah, you have the same thing happen at Tuesday in Texas that happened at SS91 (Flair gets involved and costs Hogan the title). They could vacate the title just from what happened then, or they could do a return match on Superstars or Challenge, and have the same thing happen then that happened at Tuesday in Texas (Hogan uses the ashes to beat Taker), then they could vacate the title and everything after that happens the way it did. Or, you could have Taker defend the title against Hogan at RR92, Hogan regains the title and defends the belt at WM8 against the winner of the rumble, Ric Flair - who last eliminates Warrior or Savage who would then be Flair's first opponent for the WWF title after he beats Hogan for the belt at WM8. |
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Post by The Brain on Mar 21, 2023 16:35:41 GMT -5
What about the Rumble match then? Does the WWF Title get vacated and put up for grabs? If it doesnt then it wouldnt be fair to Flair! Yeah, you have the same thing happen at Tuesday in Texas that happened at SS91 (Flair gets involved and costs Hogan the title). They could vacate the title just from what happened then, or they could do a return match on Superstars or Challenge, and have the same thing happen then that happened at Tuesday in Texas (Hogan uses the ashes to beat Taker), then they could vacate the title and everything after that happens the way it did. Or, you could have Taker defend the title against Hogan at RR92, Hogan regains the title and defends the belt at WM8 against the winner of the rumble, Ric Flair - who last eliminates Warrior or Savage who would then be Flair's first opponent for the WWF title after he beats Hogan for the belt at WM8.  |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 21, 2023 19:23:23 GMT -5
Yeah, you have the same thing happen at Tuesday in Texas that happened at SS91 (Flair gets involved and costs Hogan the title). They could vacate the title just from what happened then, or they could do a return match on Superstars or Challenge, and have the same thing happen then that happened at Tuesday in Texas (Hogan uses the ashes to beat Taker), then they could vacate the title and everything after that happens the way it did. Or, you could have Taker defend the title against Hogan at RR92, Hogan regains the title and defends the belt at WM8 against the winner of the rumble, Ric Flair - who last eliminates Warrior or Savage who would then be Flair's first opponent for the WWF title after he beats Hogan for the belt at WM8. Starting to think my final four for that rumble would be Flair, Savage, Warrior and Jake. |
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 21, 2023 19:53:02 GMT -5
I'd love to know what kind of impact Warriors abrupt departure had.
Anybody listen to the podcast featuring the guy who took over from Prichard when Bruce was canned in 91? It's meant to be pretty interesting
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Post by hbkjason on Mar 22, 2023 6:08:59 GMT -5
I'd love to know what kind of impact Warriors abrupt departure had. Anybody listen to the podcast featuring the guy who took over from Prichard when Bruce was canned in 91? It's meant to be pretty interesting I didn't even know that was a thing, I will have to check it out. Also, I think it would have been interesting to see if they could have perhaps gone down the road of Warrior embracing the dark side Jake was teaching him and have him become a heel, would tie into him facing Undertaker, but Undertaker would be face and Warrior heel. |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 22, 2023 8:23:22 GMT -5
I'd love to know what kind of impact Warriors abrupt departure had. Anybody listen to the podcast featuring the guy who took over from Prichard when Bruce was canned in 91? It's meant to be pretty interesting I didn't even know that was a thing, I will have to check it out. Also, I think it would have been interesting to see if they could have perhaps gone down the road of Warrior embracing the dark side Jake was teaching him and have him become a heel, would tie into him facing Undertaker, but Undertaker would be face and Warrior heel.That would have been interesting. Had everything stayed the same for Survivor Series 1991 and Royal Rumble 1992, Warrior could have been the one to dump Hogan out instead of Sid. If WrestleMania stays the same, Taker faces Jake, Flair faces Savage, but Hogan faces heel Warrior. Sid can stay a babyface for the time being, and he saves Hogan from Warrior and Papa Shango. Warrior faces Taker and Sid during the spring and summer of 1992, then eventually, we get a Macho/Warrior feud, this time with Warrior as the heel and Savage as the face. |
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