mrh
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Post by mrh on Jul 24, 2023 16:18:39 GMT -5
Is anyone else super interested to see if this question comes up in the Q&A. If not, we know Steve didn't want it asked -- so we probably have the answer
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 24, 2023 16:22:24 GMT -5
These were literally supposed to ship, so you have to assume there is a LOT of these figures sat vaulted somewhere? Which is crazy to think aboutā¦what chances that a couple get into peopleās hands?
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ddt4thee
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Post by ddt4thee on Jul 24, 2023 16:23:39 GMT -5
I think half the people on this board work for Mattel or want to the way the excuses are constantly made here. It's so unintentionally funny.
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Jul 24, 2023 16:28:15 GMT -5
Is anyone else super interested to see if this question comes up in the Q&A. If not, we know Steve didn't want it asked -- so we probably have the answer yeah but Iām worried it wonāt be asked and that watching the video will just be a waste of time but yeah no question or the generic corporate answer I feel will basically confirm itās the licensing which  ing sucks. hopefully it was asked and the answer was āit had production issues and youāll see it in a future line-upā but thatās probably just wishful thinking unfortunately |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jul 24, 2023 17:17:02 GMT -5
I think half the people on this board work for Mattel or want to the way the excuses are constantly made here. It's so unintentionally funny. |
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Post by breal59 on Jul 24, 2023 17:23:37 GMT -5
"we stumbled into a couple of roadblocks in his contract and licensing" would be so much a better answer than "we would love to use him again if he ever becomes available" it's the new "we wish them the best in their future endeavours"
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Post by Figure Nova on Jul 24, 2023 18:30:52 GMT -5
These were literally supposed to ship, so you have to assume there is a LOT of these figures sat vaulted somewhere? Which is crazy to think aboutā¦what chances that a couple get into peopleās hands? A few people, including the usual suspects, got hold of Strongbow before he was pulled, so this wouldnāt be surprising at all. |
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 24, 2023 18:37:37 GMT -5
These were literally supposed to ship, so you have to assume there is a LOT of these figures sat vaulted somewhere? Which is crazy to think aboutā¦what chances that a couple get into peopleās hands? If that's the case, they should have been able to use the line "it's too far into production for us to stop now..." correct? |
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Post by redrooster on Jul 24, 2023 18:55:20 GMT -5
Per Mark Sterling on the major pods what not stream āUltimate Macho got cancelled because they lost the Macho man license.ā Of course Iāll wait to hear an official word from Steve, but, itās not looking good.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 24, 2023 19:05:13 GMT -5
These were literally supposed to ship, so you have to assume there is a LOT of these figures sat vaulted somewhere? Which is crazy to think aboutā¦what chances that a couple get into peopleās hands? A few people, including the usual suspects, got hold of Strongbow before he was pulled, so this wouldnāt be surprising at all. I might atually sell my Strongbow. Just don't know what is a fair price. Perhaps I'll make a thread to get some opinions. |
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Post by glassoni0n on Jul 24, 2023 19:27:55 GMT -5
Per Mark Sterling on the major pods what not stream āUltimate Macho got cancelled because they lost the Macho man license.ā Of course Iāll wait to hear an official word from Steve, but, itās not looking good. Sigh, I'm pulling the trigger on those extra Macho's. Better safe than sorry. Somehow, some way, some day, we will reinstate the Macho Man. |
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Post by Flair Forever on Jul 24, 2023 20:10:47 GMT -5
Per Mark Sterling on the major pods what not stream āUltimate Macho got cancelled because they lost the Macho man license.ā Of course Iāll wait to hear an official word from Steve, but, itās not looking good. Sigh, I'm pulling the trigger on those extra Macho's. Better safe than sorry. Somehow, some way, some day, we will reinstate the Macho Man. I love what you've done here  |
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Post by mrh on Jul 25, 2023 1:17:37 GMT -5
These were literally supposed to ship, so you have to assume there is a LOT of these figures sat vaulted somewhere? Which is crazy to think aboutā¦what chances that a couple get into peopleās hands?
I could easily be wrong about this, but I believe to prevent this from happen, they literally destroy the figures rather than vaulting or putting in a warehouse.
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Post by tdoggpsu on Jul 25, 2023 1:53:19 GMT -5
These were literally supposed to ship, so you have to assume there is a LOT of these figures sat vaulted somewhere? Which is crazy to think aboutā¦what chances that a couple get into peopleās hands? If that's the case, they should have been able to use the line "it's too far into production for us to stop now..." correct?Ā Why do people think that Mattel can just āuse a lineā as an excuse to still release a figure when WWE tells them they cannot? Mattel doesnāt unilaterally make decisions with WWEās intellectual property without their input. The same is true when people question why a figure looks a certain way or has a certain attire and Steve references, ālicensor input.ā Mattel doesnāt make these decisions in a vacuum. |
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Jul 25, 2023 1:53:38 GMT -5
These were literally supposed to ship, so you have to assume there is a LOT of these figures sat vaulted somewhere? Which is crazy to think aboutā¦what chances that a couple get into peopleās hands? If that's the case, they should have been able to use the line "it's too far into production for us to stop now..." correct?Ā I wish they had, guess it must have been a big oversight and a real last minute slam on the breaks but this thing was literally supposed to be in hand around now, there has to be some out there. I did wonder if they maybe destroy them but that might depend on how quickly/confident they are of getting the licence back. I know Mattel arenāt short of a few dollars but these must have been fully manufactured, thatās a lot of product to waste and destroy. Find it hard to believe that nobody out there has any of these or that some havenāt fallen through the net. |
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Post by RSCTom on Jul 25, 2023 2:58:22 GMT -5
Not that I want to ease all the unbelievable bellyaching but I did ask the question and it did get answered
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 25, 2023 4:08:07 GMT -5
If that's the case, they should have been able to use the line "it's too far into production for us to stop now..." correct? Why do people think that Mattel can just āuse a lineā as an excuse to still release a figure when WWE tells them they cannot? Mattel doesnāt unilaterally make decisions with WWEās intellectual property without their input. The same is true when people question why a figure looks a certain way or has a certain attire and Steve references, ālicensor input.ā Mattel doesnāt make these decisions in a vacuum. How do you know they can't? That was the "line" given as the reason when asked about how the Warlord and Berzerker figures made it out a few years ago. When the lawsuit came out and WWE asked them to cancel/stop making figure of all wrestlers in the lawsuit, they did, but Warlord and Berzerker made it out because "they were too far along in production to stop". Others who weren't "too far along" were cancelled, I believe Koko B. Ware and the Barbarian were two of them. Maybe Warlord and Berzerker were much further along than this UE Macho King, but that is why people think that. |
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 25, 2023 4:25:56 GMT -5
Why do people think that Mattel can just āuse a lineā as an excuse to still release a figure when WWE tells them they cannot? Mattel doesnāt unilaterally make decisions with WWEās intellectual property without their input. The same is true when people question why a figure looks a certain way or has a certain attire and Steve references, ālicensor input.ā Mattel doesnāt make these decisions in a vacuum. How do you know they can't? That was the "line" given as the reason when asked about how the Warlord and Berzerker figures made it out a few years ago. When the lawsuit came out and WWE asked them to cancel/stop making figure of all wrestlers in the lawsuit, they did, but Warlord and Berzerker made it out because "they were too far along in production to stop". Others who weren't "too far along" were cancelled, I believe Koko B. Ware and the Barbarian were two of them. Maybe Warlord and Berzerker were much further along than this UE Macho King, but that is why people think that.Ā I think the key difference is Macho's contract expired (like Stings) vs. WWE telling Mattel to stop making figures since they are suing us. If WWE even terminated the Legends contracts for people that sued (they could have just let the contract play out without releasing merch), they could have waited until after merch that was in production was released. I do think that Koko was further along since he went up for preorder, but I think he was the first that sued that had a figure coming out relatively soon. I think the production rule started after that (and maybe even because of that scenario - ie Mattel being pissed that they had to cancel a figure that was almost released). |
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Post by ddt4thee on Jul 25, 2023 6:48:07 GMT -5
C'mon guys, don't worry or care about anything, especially stuff like figures you want getting cancelled. Just consume what is available.
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Post by Flair Forever on Jul 25, 2023 6:56:52 GMT -5
Why do people think that Mattel can just āuse a lineā as an excuse to still release a figure when WWE tells them they cannot? Mattel doesnāt unilaterally make decisions with WWEās intellectual property without their input. The same is true when people question why a figure looks a certain way or has a certain attire and Steve references, ālicensor input.ā Mattel doesnāt make these decisions in a vacuum. How do you know they can't? That was the "line" given as the reason when asked about how the Warlord and Berzerker figures made it out a few years ago. When the lawsuit came out and WWE asked them to cancel/stop making figure of all wrestlers in the lawsuit, they did, but Warlord and Berzerker made it out because "they were too far along in production to stop". Others who weren't "too far along" were cancelled, I believe Koko B. Ware and the Barbarian were two of them. Maybe Warlord and Berzerker were much further along than this UE Macho King, but that is why people think that. Let's not forget... We heard months ago that the figure was "delayed". They may have paused production early enough - and now, enough time has passed - to warrant the cancellation. Can't just keep a figure staged for production in "waiting to see" status that could take years.... |
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