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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 14, 2024 20:25:03 GMT -5
Wait. So that Continental Crown Championship is literally just another title? There's just too many championships in AEW/ROH right now AEW World Championship- Samoa Joe AEW TNT Championship- Christian Cage AEW International Championship- Orange Cassidy AEW FTW Championship- Hook AEW Continental Championship- Eddie Kingston AEW World Tag Team Championship- Ricky Starks & Big Bill AEW World Trios Championship- Billy Gunn & The Acclaimed ROH Championship- Eddie Kingston ROH TV Championship- Kyle Fletcher ROH Pure Championship- Wheeler Yuta ROH Tag Team Championship- Undisputed Kingdom ROH Trios Championship- Mogul Embassy That's 17 guys who are holding a belt of some sort and you can have a 16-man tournament where everybody in it is a champion. Meh, I don't see any problem with 12 titles. I know of another place that has 13 (including women though). Companies these days have way too big rosters. They need titles. Otherwise everyone would be in catering. You can argue it devalues the AEW world title ... but when you have as many elite guys in AEW as you do, they can't all go for the belt at the same time.
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 14, 2024 20:29:22 GMT -5
My problem with all those belts is that with the exception of Samoa Joe and Toni Storm, I have no investment or personal interest in any of the current reigns. *shrugs*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 2:53:06 GMT -5
My problem with all those belts is that with the exception of Samoa Joe and Toni Storm, I have no investment or personal interest in any of the current reigns. *shrugs* Because there’s no reason to care about the current champions, when they’re having meaningless title defenses.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jan 15, 2024 3:37:23 GMT -5
I just don't see anything special in Moriarty. Theyve tried putting him with couple different groups now and nothing seems to click. He still just feels like another guy on the roster.
That's not exactly the trios titles I'm hoping the Bang Bang Gang collects but hopefully this is a way to unify the titles and we can finally move on from this awful Acclaimed run with them
Nice warm-up for The Virtuosa,excited for her and the Timeless one
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 15, 2024 15:40:29 GMT -5
My problem with all those belts is that with the exception of Samoa Joe and Toni Storm, I have no investment or personal interest in any of the current reigns. *shrugs* Because there’s no reason to care about the current champions, when they’re having meaningless title defenses. There's no written rule in pro wrestling that says you have to care about a champion. Or even hate a champion. Sometimes you give a belt to someone talented who wins it in a kick ass match. Example, I don't care at all about Swerve (nor hate him) ... but I know he's elite as it gets and deserves a damn belt.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 15, 2024 15:46:20 GMT -5
I just don't see anything special in Moriarty. Theyve tried putting him with couple different groups now and nothing seems to click. He still just feels like another guy on the roster. That's not exactly the trios titles I'm hoping the Bang Bang Gang collects but hopefully this is a way to unify the titles and we can finally move on from this awful Acclaimed run with them Nice warm-up for The Virtuosa,excited for her and the Timeless one He reminds me of Scorpio Sky. Maybe they should tag. Be like a modern day Doom, minus the masks. And yes ... dear god get the belts off Billy Gunn and the Scissor Boys. That team has jumped the shark.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 10:32:48 GMT -5
Because there’s no reason to care about the current champions, when they’re having meaningless title defenses. There's no written rule in pro wrestling that says you have to care about a champion. Or even hate a champion. Sometimes you give a belt to someone talented who wins it in a kick ass match. Example, I don't care at all about Swerve (nor hate him) ... but I know he's elite as it gets and deserves a damn belt. There’s no written rule in pro-wrestling of anything.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 16, 2024 11:10:12 GMT -5
There's no written rule in pro wrestling that says you have to care about a champion. Or even hate a champion. Sometimes you give a belt to someone talented who wins it in a kick ass match. Example, I don't care at all about Swerve (nor hate him) ... but I know he's elite as it gets and deserves a damn belt. There’s no written rule in pro-wrestling of anything. So you have no reason to be bothered by a wrestler not making you care, no? If you need to care there is always Hallmark Channel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 11:40:14 GMT -5
There’s no written rule in pro-wrestling of anything. So you have no reason to be bothered by a wrestler not making you care, no? If you need to care there is always Hallmark Channel. You just used “be bothered by” and “not making you care” in the same sentence. I think you’re missing the point of not caring about something. Not caring, meaning not bothered by any of it. Dismissing of it.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 16, 2024 13:07:50 GMT -5
So you have no reason to be bothered by a wrestler not making you care, no? If you need to care there is always Hallmark Channel. You just used “be bothered by” and “not making you care” in the same sentence. I think you’re missing the point of not caring about something. Not caring, meaning not bothered by any of it. Dismissing of it. I think what you mean to say then is, I don't like watching (insert wrestler here).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 15:24:35 GMT -5
You just used “be bothered by” and “not making you care” in the same sentence. I think you’re missing the point of not caring about something. Not caring, meaning not bothered by any of it. Dismissing of it. I think what you mean to say then is, I don't like watching (insert wrestler here). Kinda assumed that was implied with “nobody cares about (insert wrestler here)”… because I don’t care about what he does.
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Post by Angusdacat on Jan 16, 2024 15:52:30 GMT -5
Including jobbers and an actual child AEW has a roster of 160. And there can be up to 21 active champions as of this writing.
That's one title per 7.6 people, being generous.
For reference, the numbers for WWE/NXT average one title per 13.5 people.
There's pros and cons with both, but I think the most important aspect of championships is the understanding of what makes them different from one another and what makes them important. If they all blend together and people can just go back and forth challenging for whatever, the titles mean less. If there aren't clear distinctions on what it takes to challenge for a title, the titles mean less. Weight classes were always an easy way to differentiate championships. In the modern era, the concept of TV titles was clear and fun, even if arbitrary.
Regardless of HOW you do it, there's got to be SOMETHING. If anyone can challenge for anything at anytime AND the titles are too similar, you enter questions of "why doesn't every wrestler just keep challenging for different titles until they win something. How is every open challenge just 1 on 1, often involving the same people?"
I love when companies get creative, especially with singles titles. I wish we could see some of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 16:33:27 GMT -5
Including jobbers and an actual child AEW has a roster of 160. And there can be up to 21 active champions as of this writing. That's one title per 7.6 people, being generous. For reference, the numbers for WWE/NXT average one title per 13.5 people. There's pros and cons with both, but I think the most important aspect of championships is the understanding of what makes them different from one another and what makes them important. If they all blend together and people can just go back and forth challenging for whatever, the titles mean less. If there aren't clear distinctions on what it takes to challenge for a title, the titles mean less. Weight classes were always an easy way to differentiate championships. In the modern era, the concept of TV titles was clear and fun, even if arbitrary. Regardless of HOW you do it, there's got to be SOMETHING. If anyone can challenge for anything at anytime AND the titles are too similar, you enter questions of "why doesn't every wrestler just keep challenging for different titles until they win something. How is every open challenge just 1 on 1, often involving the same people?" I love when companies get creative, especially with singles titles. I wish we could see some of that. Just create another one. No need to get creative. 😏
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 17, 2024 11:19:15 GMT -5
Including jobbers and an actual child AEW has a roster of 160. And there can be up to 21 active champions as of this writing. That's one title per 7.6 people, being generous. For reference, the numbers for WWE/NXT average one title per 13.5 people. There's pros and cons with both, but I think the most important aspect of championships is the understanding of what makes them different from one another and what makes them important. If they all blend together and people can just go back and forth challenging for whatever, the titles mean less. If there aren't clear distinctions on what it takes to challenge for a title, the titles mean less. Weight classes were always an easy way to differentiate championships. In the modern era, the concept of TV titles was clear and fun, even if arbitrary. Regardless of HOW you do it, there's got to be SOMETHING. If anyone can challenge for anything at anytime AND the titles are too similar, you enter questions of "why doesn't every wrestler just keep challenging for different titles until they win something. How is every open challenge just 1 on 1, often involving the same people?" I love when companies get creative, especially with singles titles. I wish we could see some of that. Great post. Both companies need to work on it. But I'm not sure there is an answer. It would require more programming to incorporate more storytelling for each belt.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 20, 2024 22:06:55 GMT -5
Whoa ... Copeland vs Suzuki next week on Dynamite. Surreal.
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Post by JCF on Jan 20, 2024 22:26:24 GMT -5
Roderick Strong sucks. Boringgggggg
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Post by BaLoR RoLLiNS on Jan 20, 2024 23:10:40 GMT -5
Undisputed Kingdom is already a joke. All that time on the devil storyline for me to not even care to tune back in. I think Cole was on TV 1 time. Wardlow is barely out there. What is this and where the hell is it going?
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Post by switchbladeera on Jan 20, 2024 23:32:20 GMT -5
Whoa ... Copeland vs Suzuki next week on Dynamite. Surreal. The AEW I love is truly back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2024 6:47:36 GMT -5
Bang bang scissor gang gotta be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Putting BC Gold and Acclaimed together is a mistake unless it’s an angle forBC to turn on them, otherwise this just lame to me
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2024 6:48:50 GMT -5
Collision has gone downhill since Punk exited. Also, Adam Page throws horrible forearms. He hit Trevor Murdoch Jr in the shoulder every time and it looked like sht. It became dynamite 2 electric boogaloo rather quickly
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