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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 14:26:04 GMT -5
They should have ran Lawler vs Roddy I thought that was the play too before, but the event ended at nearly midnight on a Sunday Toronto time and Okada/Bryan was "only" 30 minutes and likely cut a bit short due to the time and Bryan's forearm.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jun 26, 2023 14:36:40 GMT -5
Catching the MJF match. MJF is in a league of his own in AEW as far as character work and how he presents himself. Dude is a genius. Also, Tanahashi moves around like Matt Hardy. One of the guys sitting next to me and myself were both remarking during this match how good mjf was at hiding a lot of tanahashis limitations. They were still there when tana had to run or do semi high spots, but overall mjf was unreal at limiting it. There were a couple of times early that MJF seemed to be too quick to where he needed to be but once he got the feel and did his heel tactics it all came together pretty nicely on tv
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Post by shenmue on Jun 26, 2023 15:46:26 GMT -5
I enjoyed the show but i don't enjoy the you hit me and then i hit you back spots, far too nany throughout the show, eddie Kingston is the worst culprit, i just find it silly, it looks awful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 16:05:52 GMT -5
AEW should really look into starting their PPV's earlier if theyre going to run that long. Its a battle to stay up til midnight on a Sunday night when you have to work the next day.
Also, as a guy who doesnt follow NJPW at all, last night was fantasic. That Omega/Ospreay match was 10/10
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 26, 2023 17:42:20 GMT -5
Bully Ray says that Eddie Kingston is their stone Cold and he needs to be pushed. He is their every man, their next level star. While I can see what he is talking about. I think Eddie Kingston is a bit too past his prime for that. I don’t think you are getting another 5-10 years out of him. I mean hell he was semi retired before AEW came calling.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jun 26, 2023 17:51:14 GMT -5
The pop if Eddie beat MJF would be insane. Yes please.
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Post by Angusdacat on Jun 26, 2023 19:07:37 GMT -5
I’ve been saying for years that in my mind Shawn Michaels is the greatest all around pro wrestler of all time, with Bryan in a close second. I think Danielson has officially surpassed Shawn. Just the greatest wrestler ever in my opinion. Exact same thought. The dude understands WRESTLING like no one on earth
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Post by Crane on Jun 26, 2023 20:27:11 GMT -5
Last night was my first time traveling out of the country from Michigan to Canada. 4.5 hour drive, but wasn't bad but there was some bad traffic due to construction that caused me to miss the first half of the pre-show. I got there literally to see the final move of Athena Vs. Billie Starkz. Was rooting for Billie, but I'm sure she'll get more chances seeing as she's signed now. ELP Vs. Stu & LIJ Vs. United Empire were both fun quick matches. MJF Vs. Tanahashi - I wasn't really a fan of this match. I'm not a Tanahashi fan at all, so I was already uninterested in this match. MJF mocking Tana's walk was a great spot. MJF using the Dynamite ring is becoming a tired spot already. Obviously MJF was going to win and he did. Punk Vs. Kojima - I haven't been a huge fan of Punk's 2 matches since his return, but this match was really good. Kojima dropping the elbow on Punk's nuts was brutal looking. My section collectively groaned at that lol. I assume this leads to Joe beating Roddy on Collision this Saturday so we get Joe Vs. Punk again. I also liked Punk bringing back the shorts. Orange Vs. Garcia Vs. Shibata Vs. ZSJ - Very fun match. Last year I saw Shibata come out and attack Ospreay after he beat Orange. 1 year later and I'm seeing him wrestle! Garcia's dancing is damn funny man. I was popping every time he did it. Orange constantly barely winning is starting to become a little boring. I don't know who'll beat him at this point. Maybe Jungle Boy since he turned heel. Speaking of.... Jungle Boy Vs. SANADA - Fine match. Nothing to write home about. I liked SANADA winning with the Moonsault seeing as Great Muta trained him. Jungle Boy turning into the Jungle Man with the heel turn was nice. I hope TK doesn't have him reunite with Christian/Luchasaurus seeing as Christian was literally insulting his dead father every week for like 3 months. The Elite/Kingston/Ishii Vs. BCC - Very fun match. Konosuke knocking Ishii out with the elbow made me pop big. Loved everything about this match besides Eddie taking the double superkick for Mox. Good match, happy the BCC won. Guessing the next/final step in this feud is Blood and Guts in July. Toni Storm Vs. Willow - A good match that was overshadowed by the matches before and after it. Happy Willow is getting the spotlight, but we all knew Toni was winning here. Toni won't be losing that title until either Jamie Hayter returns or if they pull the trigger on Skye Blue on Wednesday. Kenny Omega Vs. Will Ospreay - Holy . Everything about this match was just absolute perfection. From the entrances with "Elevated" and "Devil's Sky", to every move in the match. Ospreay smashing Omega's head into the table cover, the Oscutter into the knee, Kenny getting the rope after the 1st Stormbreaker, kicking out at ING 1 after the One Winged Angel, the ripcord into a Hidden Blade, then the Tiger Driver '91 and the final Stormbreaker. Perfection. Kenny is a madman for taking that Tiger Driver. Absolute match of the year and the crazy thing is they might even top that if they have a rubber match at Wembley at All In in 2 months. Le Suzuki Gods Vs. Sting/Darby/Naito - This match sucked lmao. Bad spot on the card, too long of a match, Sting blew the table spot, and a random roll-up finish. Okada Vs. Danielson - Bryan's entrance made me jump outta my seat. I knew the second that his regular theme didn't start that he was using "The Final Countdown" This match was already damned with the craziness of Omega/Ospreay and Bryan breaking his forearm didn't help this match either. This match should've/could've been just as good as Omega/Ospreay, but it just ended up being a decent match. It also didn't help that most North American fans probably don't know that Okada hasn't tapped in 8 years. I definetly didn't know until I read it on Twitter after the show. I' gonna assume/hope that this leads to a rematch down the line, possibly at All In or Wrestle Kingdom next year. Overall the show was fantastic. Omega/Ospreay 2 beats out Lucha Bros/Bucks Steel Cage from All Out 2021 as the best match I've seen live and it's tied with thath show overall for best show I've seen live in general.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jun 26, 2023 20:38:12 GMT -5
I got my wife to watch Omega - Ospreay with me. She is by no means a wrestling fan but she liked the match.
If I really like a match she’ll watch it with me so it was nice to get her eyes on an instant classic.
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Post by X-27 on Jun 26, 2023 20:40:18 GMT -5
Gutted by the Danielson news, but that show was amazing.
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Post by Crane on Jun 26, 2023 20:55:40 GMT -5
Gutted by the Danielson news, but that show was amazing. If everything goes well with hos healing, he should be back just in time for All IN and All Out
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Post by X-27 on Jun 26, 2023 20:57:27 GMT -5
Gutted by the Danielson news, but that show was amazing. If everything goes well with hos healing, he should be back just in time for All IN and All Out I hope so. Him missing All In would be pretty crappy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 6:27:39 GMT -5
I got my wife to watch Omega - Ospreay with me. She is by no means a wrestling fan but she liked the match. If I really like a match she’ll watch it with me so it was nice to get her eyes on an instant classic. I need to get mine to watch it. She's a casual but she enjoys flippy floppy sht
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jun 27, 2023 6:42:08 GMT -5
I got my wife to watch Omega - Ospreay with me. She is by no means a wrestling fan but she liked the match. If I really like a match she’ll watch it with me so it was nice to get her eyes on an instant classic. I need to get mine to watch it. She's a casual but she enjoys flippy floppy sht I imagine she’d like it. Mine said “they did some cool moves” lol
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 27, 2023 9:16:35 GMT -5
Great show
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Post by BSR on Jun 27, 2023 20:13:01 GMT -5
I'm seeing all this stuff about omega vs osprey and them two being in contention for best in the world but they just don't have what danielson and okada have. They're good but they're not on that level.
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Post by Quazimoto on Jun 27, 2023 21:08:39 GMT -5
I'm seeing all this stuff about omega vs osprey and them two being in contention for best in the world but they just don't have what danielson and okada have. They're good but they're not on that level. Completely agree. Omega is really damn good (when he has a good opponent to play off). Osprey about the same level, but a bigger upside for the future. Neither one is on Danielson or Okada's level.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 23:15:12 GMT -5
My Mount Rushmore might actually be Omega/Ospreay/Danielson/Okada lol. All 4 are just that damn amazing. Comparing time periods is always so tricky though. Cuz like Thesz and Gagne were goats if their time, but it's so dang different now. I still enjoy going back and watching their matches but it's a different world. Same thing with everyone through the ages. My god though, what a freaking match Kenny and will had. There are so many little things in Omega/Ospreay that I know I'm gonna keep finding new hidden things on my 4th or 5th rewatch.
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Post by Angusdacat on Jun 27, 2023 23:15:59 GMT -5
I'm seeing all this stuff about omega vs osprey and them two being in contention for best in the world but they just don't have what danielson and okada have. They're good but they're not on that level. One of the big things I noticed is how quickly the audience stopped focusing on getting themselves/the match over once Bryan and Okada started wrestling. There was a genuine level of investment in two wrestlers wanting to be the better man, as opposed to two wrestlers wanting to have the better match.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 23:20:00 GMT -5
I'm seeing all this stuff about omega vs osprey and them two being in contention for best in the world but they just don't have what danielson and okada have. They're good but they're not on that level. One of the big things I noticed is how quickly the audience stopped focusing on getting themselves/the match over once Bryan and Okada started wrestling. There was a genuine level of investment in two wrestlers wanting to be the better man, as opposed to two wrestlers wanting to have the better match. To be honest this was exactly how it felt in person for Okada/Danielson. Omega Ospreay had a similar vibe at the start of the match, then as it hit it's peak we were so pro Kenny the crowd just explosded. We were all so into that match and invested the reactions were 💯 genuine and everyone felt it. I wouldn't say the audience was trying to get over with that match. (Or any match really, outside of a couple sections this felt like a really genuine crowd that was invested in outcomes and reacting genuinely). Then with Okada/Danielson it was less about a favorite (Omega in Canada lol) and more we didn't care who won we were just super invested in the tension throughout the match and that tension played into the reactions of the crowd.
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