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Post by LK3 on Jul 12, 2023 17:59:23 GMT -5
All you have to do is…. Bo-lieve!
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Post by crush on Jul 12, 2023 19:17:41 GMT -5
Or, how dare people not understand the word limited. BTW, if you want it, you CAN get it. This is ALL about people not being able to get it for its original price. No it’s about making a figure that most people would want that would sell just fine at mass retail and making it a limited Con event only item. A con exclusive should be something that’s appealing that might not sell well at retail. That’s not Sting. A con exclusive should be more of a heel like MJF where collectors would want it, but it wouldn’t sell as well at retail. So in order for me to have a chance at this figure I would need to get round trip airfare from NY to CA, hotel cost and Con tickets and hope it’s not sold out for the day by the time I get to their booth. Or if they offer it on their website. But I don’t buy thinks on the secondary market. If I didn’t want it enough to preorder and I don’t find it on the pegs locally or Amazon I just won’t own one. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree on this one. The AEW line has had numerous Stings, all of which are very similar in attire/facepaint and etc.and have been relatively easy to come by. In that case, a one-off look Sting that has collector appeal but at the same time isn't THAT far a departure from the others seems like a perfect fit for a Con exclusive. (Plus the fact that Sting might be the biggest cross-generational/cross-appeal name available to him and to the casual eye is essentially still instantly recognizable 1997/98 look)
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Post by PJ on Jul 12, 2023 22:06:09 GMT -5
No it’s about making a figure that most people would want that would sell just fine at mass retail and making it a limited Con event only item. A con exclusive should be something that’s appealing that might not sell well at retail. That’s not Sting. A con exclusive should be more of a heel like MJF where collectors would want it, but it wouldn’t sell as well at retail. So in order for me to have a chance at this figure I would need to get round trip airfare from NY to CA, hotel cost and Con tickets and hope it’s not sold out for the day by the time I get to their booth. Or if they offer it on their website. But I don’t buy thinks on the secondary market. If I didn’t want it enough to preorder and I don’t find it on the pegs locally or Amazon I just won’t own one. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree on this one. The AEW line has had numerous Stings, all of which are very similar in attire/facepaint and etc.and have been relatively easy to come by. In that case, a one-off look Sting that has collector appeal but at the same time isn't THAT far a departure from the others seems like a perfect fit for a Con exclusive. (Plus the fact that Sting might be the biggest cross-generational/cross-appeal name available to him and to the casual eye is essentially still instantly recognizable 1997/98 look) I see what you’re saying but I do have to disagree when it comes to Sting. So far he’s had… 1. regular release (which was always the first one gone from the set, but I did find him once on the pegs) 2. chase (I never found the chase, but I have no problem with him having the chase) 3. Walmart Exclusive (pain in the @$$ to find at Walmart preorder was canceled) 4. RSC Exclusive Ring with Sting. (Not spending $100+ just for a figure. That said Jazwares having him as the figure made sense as a selling point/incentive for people who wanted the ring) 5. Amazon Exclusive 2-Pack (easily obtained and was $29 yesterday for Prime Day) 6. Now a SDCC Exclusive. So there have been Six Sting figures. But only one being a mass retail figure. The rest were exclusives and chase. Two were easily obtained. Walmart’s was a pain to get as my stores never stocked it and 12 of my 13 Store pickup orders were canceled. The ring figure while it was easily obtainable at RSC I have no interest in the ring and I’m not spending $100+ just for the figure. (Again made sense if one wanted the ring) And now they offer a comic con (event only) that in order to get at the cost I either need to spend airfare, hotel costs and con ticket and hope it’s not sold out for the day. Or feed a scalper. No thanks. Sting is one of the few on roster that would sell perfectly fine at mass retail. So there’s no reason to make him an event only exclusive. To me that’s an FU to their fan base. And McFarlane did the same thing today announcing that the 30th Anniversary Knightfall Batman in correct colored attire is a SDCC Exclusive after just releasing the same figure in the wrong shades of blue & grey. That was a figure everyone was asking for since he took over the dc license. Why release the version everyone wanted as the comic con exclusive instead of the color variation? It makes no sense as they are alienating most of their fans/customers? It would be nice to just be able to walk into a store or order from their website, RSC or Amazon for these popular figures/characters instead of jumping through hoops because they make them exclusives. Especially in McFarlane’s case because he knew how much the community had been asking for a Knightfall Batman. We’ll have to agree to disagree.
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Post by dynamitekido on Jul 13, 2023 6:38:48 GMT -5
How dare people not being happy about paying 5x the price of something. But they'll have it. And that's what they want, no? They want it. Hey, man, I hate that I owe the IRS a lot of money every year ... but that's my problem, not theirs. My rent is high. That's on me. Bills suck. Life isn't about being handed things to you just because you want them and in the way you want them. That's not how it works. Limited Editions and Exclusives in all walks of life are here to stay. Suck it up. Don't be angry the McRib and Shamrock Shake aren't available 24/7/365. I won't be mad about the McRib or Shamrock Shake. They'll be back out next year. Apples to Oranges. Weird take. It's not about being handed anything, its about buying something you want. Again, apples to oranges. Is it foreign to you that collectors want something? Because you're literally on a collector board telling people they should be fine not getting something or paying secondary prices because that's the way it is. So in other words, never say anything about anything you're unhappy with. Seems reasonable.
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Post by secondwhiteline on Jul 13, 2023 8:46:04 GMT -5
But they'll have it. And that's what they want, no? They want it. Hey, man, I hate that I owe the IRS a lot of money every year ... but that's my problem, not theirs. My rent is high. That's on me. Bills suck. Life isn't about being handed things to you just because you want them and in the way you want them. That's not how it works. Limited Editions and Exclusives in all walks of life are here to stay. Suck it up. Don't be angry the McRib and Shamrock Shake aren't available 24/7/365. I won't be mad about the McRib or Shamrock Shake. They'll be back out next year. Apples to Oranges. Weird take. It's not about being handed anything, its about buying something you want. Again, apples to oranges. Is it foreign to you that collectors want something? Because you're literally on a collector board telling people they should be fine not getting something or paying secondary prices because that's the way it is. So in other words, never say anything about anything you're unhappy with. Seems reasonable. Also, like, one of the base assumptions of a marketplace is that a producer actually make enough of a thing to meet consumer demand. Jazwares doesn't do that, because its strategy for this line was conceived by a crypto bro grifter who's been enforcing scarcity for years, for returns that were never even high enough to call the current ones diminishing.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jul 13, 2023 16:49:01 GMT -5
I won't be mad about the McRib or Shamrock Shake. They'll be back out next year. Apples to Oranges. Weird take. It's not about being handed anything, it’s about buying something you want. Again, apples to oranges. Is it foreign to you that collectors want something? Because you're literally on a collector board telling people they should be fine not getting something or paying secondary prices because that's the way it is. So in other words, never say anything about anything you're unhappy with. Seems reasonable. Also, like, one of the base assumptions of a marketplace is that a producer actually make enough of a thing to meet consumer demand. Jazwares doesn't do that, because its strategy for this line was conceived by a crypto bro grifter who's been enforcing scarcity for years, for returns that were never even high enough to call the current ones diminishing. At least one other person understands They’ve destroyed the market for this line by making nothing available. Oh well it’s their loss
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Post by captncharisma19 on Jul 14, 2023 9:09:32 GMT -5
Also, like, one of the base assumptions of a marketplace is that a producer actually make enough of a thing to meet consumer demand. Jazwares doesn't do that, because its strategy for this line was conceived by a crypto bro grifter who's been enforcing scarcity for years, for returns that were never even high enough to call the current ones diminishing. At least one other person understands They’ve destroyed the market for this line by making nothing available. Oh well it’s their loss I'm gonna be honest, you alls constant hate and nagging does more to make people question the company than the figures (or lack thereof). Self-fulfilling prophecies of negativity. The figs actually released this year have been spectacular and the ones coming soon look amazing as well. SDCC exclusives used to be EXCLUSIVE AF, just like this one. FOMO that bad for yall?
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Jul 14, 2023 10:09:44 GMT -5
Sounds a little crazy but growing up in the Jakks days, I like when SDCC exclusives were not 'first time in the line' releases and they were just more deluxe repaints of popular characters. AND only available in-person. I have memories of the Classic Superstars super limited convention exclusives, and they were always very niche to a certain type of collector -- the kind that is so passionate that they show up to SDCC!
It was actually exclusive and it wasn't such a kick in the butt when you missed it. UE Sgt. Slaughter, NHB, Slim Jim Macho Man -- those need to be available to the masses and not tightly limited. They honestly don't make good SDCC exclusives because they weren't exclusive to SDCC at all. Figures like those should be retail or RSC exclusives.
This figure is so awesome but at the end of the day, we have plenty of other Stings, and they're going to continue to make more. Brodie Lee was perfect last year -- just a repaint honoring a late wrestler with exclusive packaging.
I love that its 1/1,000 and only available in-person. Makes it that much sweeter for those who own it.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jul 14, 2023 13:55:38 GMT -5
At least one other person understands They’ve destroyed the market for this line by making nothing available. Oh well it’s their loss I'm gonna be honest, you alls constant hate and nagging does more to make people question the company than the figures (or lack thereof). Self-fulfilling prophecies of negativity. The figs actually released this year have been spectacular and the ones coming soon look amazing as well. SDCC exclusives used to be EXCLUSIVE AF, just like this one. FOMO that bad for yall? What figures have been released this year? Where are they are they in the room with us right now?
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 14, 2023 15:00:48 GMT -5
Or, how dare people not understand the word limited. BTW, if you want it, you CAN get it. This is ALL about people not being able to get it for its original price. How dare people not being happy about paying 5x the price of something. I said that gripe was fair. But it seems more people have the gripe that it's limited. If the exclusive was readily available to them ... and the price was 5x what it's going to be now ... I bet they'd buy it. Why even have a CC release or a Mattel Creations release if it's not limited? Having a mass available product that you can get at the Con or online afterward is not special. it's just a regular release with a SDCC sticker on it.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 14, 2023 15:03:43 GMT -5
Or, how dare people not understand the word limited. BTW, if you want it, you CAN get it. This is ALL about people not being able to get it for its original price. No I literally cannot get it I don’t live in San Diego California You can't buy it off the Bay? Or ... you don't WANT to buy it in that way? Again, you CAN get it. You'll just have to pay more. Unfair? Sure. Such is life. But you CAN have it if you want it ... technically. I'm arguing technically, people. I don't know your budgets.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 14, 2023 15:06:25 GMT -5
But they'll have it. And that's what they want, no? They want it. Hey, man, I hate that I owe the IRS a lot of money every year ... but that's my problem, not theirs. My rent is high. That's on me. Bills suck. Life isn't about being handed things to you just because you want them and in the way you want them. That's not how it works. Limited Editions and Exclusives in all walks of life are here to stay. Suck it up. Don't be angry the McRib and Shamrock Shake aren't available 24/7/365. I won't be mad about the McRib or Shamrock Shake. They'll be back out next year. Apples to Oranges. Weird take. It's not about being handed anything, its about buying something you want. Again, apples to oranges. Is it foreign to you that collectors want something? Because you're literally on a collector board telling people they should be fine not getting something or paying secondary prices because that's the way it is. So in other words, never say anything about anything you're unhappy with. Seems reasonable. Complain ALL YOU WANT, man. I'll respond how I want. It's how opinions work.
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Post by kinnikuman on Jul 14, 2023 15:09:39 GMT -5
At least one other person understands They’ve destroyed the market for this line by making nothing available. Oh well it’s their loss I'm gonna be honest, you alls constant hate and nagging does more to make people question the company than the figures (or lack thereof). Self-fulfilling prophecies of negativity. The figs actually released this year have been spectacular and the ones coming soon look amazing as well. SDCC exclusives used to be EXCLUSIVE AF, just like this one. FOMO that bad for yall? They don't want exclusivity unless they are easily able to get it. Then they're all, "got mine lol!". If it's out of reach for them ... then exclusive items are trash marketing. I really have to question the age of some of the people on here.
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Post by captncharisma19 on Jul 14, 2023 17:06:07 GMT -5
I'm gonna be honest, you alls constant hate and nagging does more to make people question the company than the figures (or lack thereof). Self-fulfilling prophecies of negativity. The figs actually released this year have been spectacular and the ones coming soon look amazing as well. SDCC exclusives used to be EXCLUSIVE AF, just like this one. FOMO that bad for yall? What figures have been released this year? Where are they are they in the room with us right now? Troll question? Supreme 2, Supreme 3. Exclusive Supreme Kenny. Set with Private Party, set with Brodie Lee.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jul 14, 2023 17:15:20 GMT -5
😂😂😂
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Post by GoCanes84 on Jul 14, 2023 22:21:01 GMT -5
But they'll have it. And that's what they want, no? They want it. Hey, man, I hate that I owe the IRS a lot of money every year ... but that's my problem, not theirs. My rent is high. That's on me. Bills suck. Life isn't about being handed things to you just because you want them and in the way you want them. That's not how it works. Limited Editions and Exclusives in all walks of life are here to stay. Suck it up. Don't be angry the McRib and Shamrock Shake aren't available 24/7/365. The McRib has been a disappointment the last two times it came back. They’d put so much sauce on it that the bun would fall apart as soon as you pick it up. It still didn’t stop me from buying it, but it was so messy. As for the quote you did for me… Yes, we’ll have to disagree with what a con exclusive should be. And yes I could easily buy it off the secondary market, but I refuse to feed a scalper when I have my own family to feed. You’re a man of principal. I respect that. But just how far would you go? If it was a Surfer Sting (or WMIX Steiners/Superstar BG), would you spend several thousand on travel to get it or would you pony up and fund a few McRibs for a scalper and his family?
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Post by GoCanes84 on Jul 14, 2023 22:26:15 GMT -5
What figures have been released this year? Where are they are they in the room with us right now? Troll question? Supreme 2, Supreme 3. Exclusive Supreme Kenny. Set with Private Party, set with Brodie Lee. Love the line so no bias here. But we are almost in August and they’ve released one series from each of their lines. Thats inexcusable really. Especially after the big talk of staggering each line every month. Pretty soon, some guy named Zombie that lives in mom’s basement will have released more of his main line than a major toy company.
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Post by wrestlingfan1000 on Jul 14, 2023 22:35:25 GMT -5
I really want this for the coffin alone. Sucks that I won't be able to get it, but happy for those who will manage to get one and enjoy it.
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Post by secondwhiteline on Jul 14, 2023 23:15:31 GMT -5
I'm gonna be honest, you alls constant hate and nagging does more to make people question the company than the figures (or lack thereof). Self-fulfilling prophecies of negativity. The figs actually released this year have been spectacular and the ones coming soon look amazing as well. SDCC exclusives used to be EXCLUSIVE AF, just like this one. FOMO that bad for yall? They don't want exclusivity unless they are easily able to get it. Then they're all, "got mine lol!". If it's out of reach for them ... then exclusive items are trash marketing. I really have to question the age of some of the people on here. "They don't want exclusivity unless they are easily able to get it."
Alright, but if people are easily able to get something, it's the opposite of exclusivity. I'm concerned you thought this was a gotcha when it was just a definition. I don't think you read your own posts, because it's the only way to explain arguments that bad.
And if a product's numbers don't meet the demand, the strategy is misguided. If a company's not selling to its full potential, it's bad strategy. If a company's not selling to its full potential by choice and in the process of doing that they're also alienating their customer base, it's trash marketing.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jul 14, 2023 23:25:58 GMT -5
I get people gonna say Jazwares doesn't care,all it will be is a couple not sold but I'm 100% complete on AEW Sting figures atm. If I can't get this for a decent price on the secondary market,I won't continue to buy every Sting and be a little more choosy. If enough other people keeps doing that,they gonna have a lot more then Dark Order and women figs on the shelf when they finally get around to putting new product out.
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