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Post by chaz on Jul 20, 2023 7:08:41 GMT -5
There are so many rereleases recently - are Mattel running out of ideas? I’m guessing that WWE is much more strict and controlling about which talents they want represented on products with their name and logo on them. As a result, there is a small pool of (just making up a number) of 50 licensed and approved legends that can be merchandised. It’s why we always see the same talent on the legends section of the website and why the same talents are always used on reunion shows. So instead of being able to make 1000s of different characters, Mattel seem to be stuck trying to make as many variations of someone like Undertaker as possible, even down to obscure looks like Mean Mark and ‘97 leather cowboy hat that he wore maybe two times. Then again, something random like The Goon will show up, so who the hell knows. All I know is that we’re gonna get Big Scott Hall, Diamond Stud, Red Razor Ramon, Pink Razor Ramon, and DDP Yoga Scott Hall long before we get someone like The Barbarian. I’m talking things like an entire wave of Legends that are rereleases (Warrior, Bulldog, Honky, Funk), not to mention an entire wave dedicated to rereleased figures (Greatest Hits). There just seems to be a massive focus on it recently, rather than offering something different.
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secondwhiteline
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Post by secondwhiteline on Jul 20, 2023 7:09:18 GMT -5
Some thoughts: Was surprised to see the Hogan 3 pack. I like it. The 4 pack with Becky is kind of a headscratcher. It's also funny because I've seen comments here with people only wanting one figure out of the set. Funny part being that everyone picked a different one that they need but not one person picked Becky. I really only want the Hogan from the set. The Piper UE is pretty amazing outside of the kilt being some weird thing from a fever dream, because he never wore it in WCW to my recollection. The Monday Night Wars figures are cool and I'm interested, although I'll most likely never see them at Walmart. The mishandling and oversaturation of the Ultimate Edition is really dragging the line down. Here's to hoping they sell otherwise this could be the demise of the line. The series has gone through ebbs and flows through the years. At first it was an okay seller, to the figures not selling to them barely being available at retail, to them being plentiful at retail, to eventually being oversaturated and clearanced out quickly. Weird. The Bret Hart headscans still remain frustrating. The Kurt Angle UE is pretty terrible and disappointing. Really feels like the flashbacks are being scaled back. Outside of the usual suspects, there doens't seem to be many new faces appearing. Nice to see the redesign on basics, it might even result in me buying them occasionally again as opposed to NEVER doing so. Looking forward to seeing what else they reveal this weekend. Becky's the only one I need out of that set, honestly. I assumed those four were going to be this year's Mania quarterly wave. Not thrilled that it's a set, but it might not be hard to get the Becky solo online after people get their sets. Despite missteps with individual figures, the Ultimate line is filling such a niche for people that it doesn't seem likely to be harmed by anything. If we get a bad figure of someone, there's a reasonable assumption they'll get another try in the future, so I don't think a bad Angle or Eddie is going to hurt future sales or anything.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 20, 2023 7:10:36 GMT -5
Hoping WCW Piper’s kilt is a placeholder. My assumption is that the real one wasn’t ready so they used the Coliseum Collection one instead.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 20, 2023 7:14:20 GMT -5
There are so many rereleases recently - are Mattel running out of ideas? I’m guessing that WWE is much more strict and controlling about which talents they want represented on products with their name and logo on them. As a result, there is a small pool of (just making up a number) of 50 licensed and approved legends that can be merchandised. It’s why we always see the same talent on the legends section of the website and why the same talents are always used on reunion shows. So instead of being able to make 1000s of different characters, Mattel seem to be stuck trying to make as many variations of someone like Undertaker as possible, even down to obscure looks like Mean Mark and ‘97 leather cowboy hat that he wore maybe two times. Then again, something random like The Goon will show up, so who the hell knows. All I know is that we’re gonna get Big Scott Hall, Diamond Stud, Red Razor Ramon, Pink Razor Ramon, and DDP Yoga Scott Hall long before we get someone like The Barbarian. It's not a matter of being strict. There's only a need for so many legends for merch purposes when you also have something like 200 active talent who would like to be making royalties off of merch, figures, video games, etc. There appears to be a crop of 15 or so new names available, so maybe WWE have changed their corporate strategy. But even then there's no guarantee of a figure. Bill Irwin was available for years before we got The Goon. Meanwhile people like Terri Runnels and Norman Smiley will probably never get figures, despite having deals.
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Post by zachg on Jul 20, 2023 7:16:56 GMT -5
Is this the majority of the reveals or will there be more tonight
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 20, 2023 7:18:01 GMT -5
I don’t understand what people aren’t getting about Becky being in the set. The TNF multi packs, unless they represented a team, were always people from yesterday and today with a similar theme. This pack represents top draws over the years. And whether you want to admit it or not, Becky is a top draw for the “now” era.
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Post by 💯ULTIMATE💯 on Jul 20, 2023 7:18:21 GMT -5
UE Piper…my favorite figure ever? Time will tell. I am BLOWN AWAY by that Piper. My goodness guys. Hats off to you for that one. That TNF Elite 4 pack box set is fantastic as well. Plenty shown tonight to excite me already. Perhaps it’s nitpicking, but I wish it had the blond highlights in his hair. That and a head with his hair down on his forehead like below. That's what I was hoping for.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 20, 2023 7:19:33 GMT -5
Is this the majority of the reveals or will there be more tonight Panel this afternoon. Assuming more figs in the display afterwards. Possibly a few more additions to the display over the weekend.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 20, 2023 7:19:42 GMT -5
Is this the majority of the reveals or will there be more tonight This was just the appetizer. There will probably be some new content added to the displays today and tons of reveals during the panel. Get your snacks ready.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jul 20, 2023 7:20:06 GMT -5
I wish that basic Hogan had an American Made shirt instead of a white Hulkamania shirt.
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Post by Warriah' on Jul 20, 2023 7:23:08 GMT -5
Any other wrestler in Mattel’s history had as many head sculpts as Bret and almost none of them look anything like him? The ones from the KOTR ultimate aren’t that bad I don’t know why they don’t stick with those.
They still can’t even get his hair colour right.
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TheXtremisT
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Post by TheXtremisT on Jul 20, 2023 7:27:46 GMT -5
It’s ridiculous design went with this torso. Angle was never even close to that size. Bill loves throwing this torso around on guys who don’t need it: Roman, Eddie, Kurt.. The problem is that MDT seem to be more inclined to shape (torso-wise) and vertical height, rather than accuracy and size. I get that it costs a lot to tool new parts. But rushing out figures before they're ready is just disappointing. Like we had UE Amazon Jeff Hardy with an Austin torso, then about 9 months later we got UE 14 Jeff with an accurate torso. Couldn't they have held off or tooled the torso faster??
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Post by captncharisma19 on Jul 20, 2023 7:27:46 GMT -5
Some thoughts: Was surprised to see the Hogan 3 pack. I like it. The 4 pack with Becky is kind of a headscratcher. It's also funny because I've seen comments here with people only wanting one figure out of the set. Funny part being that everyone picked a different one that they need but not one person picked Becky. I really only want the Hogan from the set. The Piper UE is pretty amazing outside of the kilt being some weird thing from a fever dream, because he never wore it in WCW to my recollection. The Monday Night Wars figures are cool and I'm interested, although I'll most likely never see them at Walmart. The mishandling and oversaturation of the Ultimate Edition is really dragging the line down. Here's to hoping they sell otherwise this could be the demise of the line. The series has gone through ebbs and flows through the years. At first it was an okay seller, to the figures not selling to them barely being available at retail, to them being plentiful at retail, to eventually being oversaturated and clearanced out quickly. Weird. The Bret Hart headscans still remain frustrating. The Kurt Angle UE is pretty terrible and disappointing. Really feels like the flashbacks are being scaled back. Outside of the usual suspects, there doens't seem to be many new faces appearing. Nice to see the redesign on basics, it might even result in me buying them occasionally again as opposed to NEVER doing so. Looking forward to seeing what else they reveal this weekend. I want the Becky more than the others, 😉
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Post by TheXtremisT on Jul 20, 2023 7:31:00 GMT -5
I’m guessing that WWE is much more strict and controlling about which talents they want represented on products with their name and logo on them. As a result, there is a small pool of (just making up a number) of 50 licensed and approved legends that can be merchandised. It’s why we always see the same talent on the legends section of the website and why the same talents are always used on reunion shows. So instead of being able to make 1000s of different characters, Mattel seem to be stuck trying to make as many variations of someone like Undertaker as possible, even down to obscure looks like Mean Mark and ‘97 leather cowboy hat that he wore maybe two times. Then again, something random like The Goon will show up, so who the hell knows. All I know is that we’re gonna get Big Scott Hall, Diamond Stud, Red Razor Ramon, Pink Razor Ramon, and DDP Yoga Scott Hall long before we get someone like The Barbarian. I’m talking things like an entire wave of Legends that are rereleases (Warrior, Bulldog, Honky, Funk), not to mention an entire wave dedicated to rereleased figures (Greatest Hits). There just seems to be a massive focus on it recently, rather than offering something different. That's because that is a Legends Greatest Hits line, so of course they're re-releases.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jul 20, 2023 7:33:54 GMT -5
Trish, Lita, Chyna, Elizabeth, Madusa off the top of my head were bigger stars than Lynch. Look, I’m not the cheerleader of the Becky Lynch fan club, but she’s been booked at the top of the company for going on 5 years, has main-evented numerous PPVs including a WrestleMania, and moves a ton of merch. I’m not saying I think she’s “better” then any of the names you listed, but WWE very clearly positions her as such right now, so it makes perfect sense that she’s the female representation in a box set like this. The only female who should be in that box, is Charlotte.
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Post by wrestlingfan0815 on Jul 20, 2023 7:40:32 GMT -5
Mattel is dropping the ball with ultimates first they ruin Eddie and Kurt and now it looks like the uso’s are getting the flat colored tag belts
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Post by brad on Jul 20, 2023 7:42:09 GMT -5
I would have so many Bret Hart's if the headscan was halfway decent. Instead, I've got none from the last few years.
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Post by HardyKOfan01 on Jul 20, 2023 7:47:31 GMT -5
That Elite Kevin Owens with the Relentless shirt got me like…
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Post by casanova on Jul 20, 2023 7:49:10 GMT -5
I wish that basic Hogan had an American Made shirt instead of a white Hulkamania shirt. Now I wish it had an elephant accesory…
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Post by cldbld on Jul 20, 2023 7:50:44 GMT -5
So far best figure shown today is the MNW Ultimate Piper Wowza Gotta go with Summer Slam 1991 Ultimate Warrior. I love warrior I do, but let's give piper his flowers :-)
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