chelsea2298
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Post by chelsea2298 on Jul 20, 2023 8:42:34 GMT -5
It’s always fascinating to me how people let their personal feelings cloud why certain figures or etc. get made. Like I don’t care for Hogan or Warrior, but I completely understand why they get so many figures. That's the point... We're not talking about household names, like Hogan or Warrior - it's Becky ing Lynch. Even the name on the box looks wrong... three of the biggest names in the history of wrestling - Hogan, Maivia, Austin... and then 'Becky Lynch', lol. May just as well put 'Rebecca Quinn' on there, lol. She didn't fit/belong in elite 100, and the same goes here. I guess the counter argument is that its a modern Austin and a very early Rock. Not exactly iconic looks. For what its worth, I don't have any feelings either way really. Would have bought the Hogan if it was a single release but not too bothered. Just sort of seeing the other side of it really.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 20, 2023 8:42:52 GMT -5
It’s always fascinating to me how people let their personal feelings cloud why certain figures or etc. get made. Like I don’t care for Hogan or Warrior, but I completely understand why they get so many figures. Because some people have this weird perception that Mattel should only make the figures that they want. And would subsequently complain that they can't afford to keep collecting the line, and Mattel needs to make some figures they don't want to buy.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 20, 2023 8:44:21 GMT -5
I'm assuming they're doing a Honorary Uce Sami? I bought UE Roman, UE Usos, and got the 104 Solo to put together. So I need a Sami to go with them. I skipped the 102 Sami I was originally planning on getting to wait on a Bloodline version.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 20, 2023 8:44:56 GMT -5
I never saw the point of the "then now forever" gimmick, either make multi-packs all-classic or all-current I say. a) it's marketing/branding. It may have been a licensor request b) crossover sets can attract two sub-sets of collectors instead of just one
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 20, 2023 8:47:26 GMT -5
It’s always fascinating to me how people let their personal feelings cloud why certain figures or etc. get made. Like I don’t care for Hogan or Warrior, but I completely understand why they get so many figures. That's the point... We're not talking about household names, like Hogan or Warrior - it's Becky ing Lynch. Even the name on the box looks wrong... three of the biggest names in the history of wrestling - Hogan, Maivia, Austin... and then 'Becky Lynch', lol. May just as well put 'Rebecca Quinn' on there, lol. She didn't fit/belong in elite 100, and the same goes here. Who on the current WWE roster is a bigger name than Becky? Roman and Brock. That’s it. You may have other people at or around the same level but nobody but them are bigger names than her. Do you really want yet another release of a plain ass black pants Roman or plain ass black shorts Brock in that set instead?
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Post by The Assassin on Jul 20, 2023 8:48:21 GMT -5
I never saw the point of the "then now forever" gimmick, either make multi-packs all-classic or all-current I say. a) it's marketing/branding. It may have been a licensor request b) crossover sets can attract two sub-sets of collectors instead of just one Even though I personally have no interest in current figures, I can at least understand "fantasy matchup" style pairings. but "then now forever" often seems very random groupings IMO.
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crush
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Post by crush on Jul 20, 2023 8:48:54 GMT -5
It’s always fascinating to me how people let their personal feelings cloud why certain figures or etc. get made. Like I don’t care for Hogan or Warrior, but I completely understand why they get so many figures. That's the point... We're not talking about household names, like Hogan or Warrior - it's Becky ing Lynch. Even the name on the box looks wrong... three of the biggest names in the history of wrestling - Hogan, Maivia, Austin... and then 'Becky Lynch', lol. May just as well put 'Rebecca Quinn' on there, lol. She didn't fit/belong in elite 100, and the same goes here. The point is WWE sees and books her as the female name on that level. She’s been booked at the top of the company for going on 5 years, has main-evented numerous PPVs including a WrestleMania, and moves a ton of mercH. So it makes perfect sense given the way that WWE presents her that she’s the female representation in a box set like this. The only other person that would fit would be Charlotte. (And even there I'd argue that Becky has been consistently more over than Charlotte, but still Charlotte would fit just as well).
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 20, 2023 8:49:16 GMT -5
Also, Becky Lynch is the biggest female star in this modern era of female wrestlers, circa 2015 and on. It's not close, either. People need to take a deep breath. I agree Cena should have been in the set from a semantics standpoint, but it's not that big of a deal. It's also not going to change. And them putting Rocky Maivia in there instead of The Rock throws the entire thing off for me more than Becky.
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walkingturtles
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Post by walkingturtles on Jul 20, 2023 8:49:23 GMT -5
Instead of getting more Brutus Barber Beefcakes, why can’t we get a Disciple?
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Post by The Madness on Jul 20, 2023 8:50:00 GMT -5
I wish that basic Hogan had an American Made shirt instead of a white Hulkamania shirt. Now I wish it had an elephant accesory… "Roddy Piper rubber chicken" just moved to the top of my wants list.
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Post by 💯ULTIMATE💯 on Jul 20, 2023 8:51:37 GMT -5
What’s everyone’s issue with the new packaging? It doesn’t look all that different to me. my brother in christ, half the figure is now covered by cardboard, how does it not look different to you? Not to mention how unsightly the big WWE logo slapped right in front is and how this is just a way for them to cut costs for more profit after they've continue to increase the price year after year. They saw Hasbro eat crap for eliminating the window all together and thought skirting that line would be a great idea 🙄. LMAO! that first line killed me! But yea, half the figure is covered which is an obvious difference.
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secondwhiteline
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Post by secondwhiteline on Jul 20, 2023 8:53:39 GMT -5
With respect to Becky though, she's no Cena or Roman... it should have been one of them, IMO. For a while she was. Roman literally just got over a couple years ago after being rejected by the fans for years and Cena has been a midcarder/part timer since 2017. I don’t really watch much anymore but Becky was getting Stone Cold/Rock level of pops on a consistent basis and was the only thing worth tuning into Raw and SD during that time. People forget so quickly. Before the heel turn and Bloodline salvaged Roman's career, Becky was absolutely the top merch seller in WWE and very likely who the company would have considered the top star. She's by any reasonable standard the most popular women's wrestler in North American history. Not that an action figure pack defines legacies, but she belongs here.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 20, 2023 8:54:36 GMT -5
Now I wish it had an elephant accesory… "Roddy Piper rubber chicken" just moved to the top of my wants list. I totally forgot that was a thing until just now as the memory of the rubber chicken rushed back into my brain.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Jul 20, 2023 8:54:59 GMT -5
With WWE adding "Together" to their tagline to sell inclusivity, a current woman talent needed to be in the package. Becky Lynch has had fans massively behind her and represents the modern push for women's sports entertaining.
Maivia is the outlier here, not Becks.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jul 20, 2023 8:55:10 GMT -5
There’s a handful of things that I’m all about…obviously all of the Hogans. Additionally
Most of the Superstars…if they ever actually make it to retail. Still haven’t seen anything beyond the Outsiders series, and that only appeared about two weeks ago.
Legends Jimmy Hart - although there really isn’t a good WCW Hogan to go with him. The pain of losing the crowdfunding is palpable.
Legends Andre - I get most Andre’s, but we are very overdo for young fro Andre. The yellow one is kind of a rerelease. I’ll aim for the red one. I just wish it came with a fro head.
Legends Sheik - yes, just wish he had the clubs
WCW Piper - FINALLY! I’ve been calling for this for years. Again, pity about the Nitro Stage. Like we thought, WCW heavily represented. I’ll get it because it’s Piper.
Hogan 3 pack - duh…. Just wish it came with more than one new head. I can abide the straight-faced scan from Ultimate Hollywood, but they REALLY need to retire the HOF head. They’ve been leaning on it way too hard, and it was never any good to begin with. Happy about the new torsos finally. Still not sure why they insist on not giving him the tan.
Ultimate Angle - eh…it’s ok, better than nothing. Hopefully it’s the first of many.
Dutch boy HBK - why are his tights black? Or is it just the angle? Maybe, but that was probably his worst look…actually, no. The bald Basic was his worst look.
WCW Bischoff - tremendous. I really don’t need the ring though…especially since there’s no stage to go with it. Really wishing the crowdfund went through now. Not sure what to do here. I feel like the market will be flooded with Bischoffless rings and Bischoff alone will go for almost as much as the whole set, so it’s lose lose for anyone who doesn’t want the ring.
Are Virgil and Lawler BAFs?
Is Honky a best of?
Basics are looking better. Hopefully they keep up on the deco as well. There’s been some total crap basics over the past few years. These looked ok.
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Post by The Assassin on Jul 20, 2023 8:57:00 GMT -5
Instead of getting more Brutus Barber Beefcakes, why can’t we get a Disciple? I agree, although that said, I do love that mean-looking Beefcake headscan and if they ever considered doing The Butcher from WCW, I'd hope they re-use this headscan with a ponytail added. Heck this headscan would probably look great reworked into Disciple for that matter. It's a great likeness and expression choice IMO.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Jul 20, 2023 8:59:05 GMT -5
With WWE adding "Together" to their tagline to sell inclusivity, a current woman talent needed to be in the package. Becky Lynch has had fans massively behind her and represents the modern push for women's sports entertaining. Maivia is the outlier here, not Becks. This is the correct take.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 20, 2023 8:59:31 GMT -5
Also, Becky Lynch is the biggest female star in this modern era of female wrestlers, circa 2015 and on. It's not close, either. People need to take a deep breath. I agree Cena should have been in the set from a semantics standpoint, but it's not that big of a deal. It's also not going to change. And them putting Rocky Maivia in there instead of The Rock throws the entire thing off for me more than Becky. Debuts woulda been a good recurring theme. Debut of Hulkamania, debut of Rock, debut of Austin 3:16 (re-release the Flashback), and debut of The Man (if they could do broken nose that woulda been epic but her turning on Charlotte or anything around that time).
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GoCanes84
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Post by GoCanes84 on Jul 20, 2023 8:59:48 GMT -5
There’s a handful of things that I’m all about…obviously all of the Hogans. Additionally Most of the Superstars…if they ever actually make it to retail. Still haven’t seen anything beyond the Outsiders series, and that only appeared about two weeks ago. Legends Jimmy Hart - although there really isn’t a good WCW Hogan to go with him. The pain of losing the crowdfunding is palpable. Legends Andre - I get most Andre’s, but we are very overdo for young fro Andre. The yellow one is kind of a rerelease. I’ll aim for the red one. I just wish it came with a fro head. Legends Sheik - yes, just wish he had the clubs WCW Piper - FINALLY! I’ve been calling for this for years. Again, pity about the Nitro Stage. Like we thought, WCW heavily represented. I’ll get it because it’s Piper. Hogan 3 pack - duh…. Just wish it came with more than one new head. I can abide the straight-faced scan from Ultimate Hollywood, but they REALLY need to retire the HOF head. They’ve been leaning on it way too hard, and it was never any good to begin with. Happy about the new torsos finally. Still not sure why they insist on not giving him the tan. Ultimate Angle - eh…it’s ok, better than nothing. Hopefully it’s the first of many. Dutch boy HBK - why are his tights black? Or is it just the angle? Maybe, but that was probably his worst look…actually, no. The bald Basic was his worst look. WCW Bischoff - tremendous. I really don’t need the ring though…especially since there’s no stage to go with it. Really wishing the crowdfund went through now. Not sure what to do here. I feel like the market will be flooded with Bischoffless rings and Bischoff alone will go for almost as much as the whole set, so it’s lose lose for anyone who doesn’t want the ring. Are Virgil and Lawler BAFs? Is Honky a best of? Basics are looking better. Hopefully they keep up on the deco as well. There’s been some total crap basics over the past few years. These looked ok. Honky is in the Legends Greatest Hits line. Virgil is a BAF (built with mostly modern figs - ugh) Lawler is a single release.
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Post by WrestlingFigWig on Jul 20, 2023 9:04:27 GMT -5
I have no hope that the marks in attendance today for the panel and Q&A will actually ask the question everyone wants answered. If there’s anything I’ve learned since being here other than all the crying is this. QnA’s are pointless and a waste of time. Yeah no kidding. I remember watching the Wrestlemania Q&A this year with Mattel, Gargano and Theory and turning it off after 2 minutes when I heard some of the questions being asked.
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