Would the stage had succeed if ?

Before even clicking on the thread I knew my answer was going to be no.

There are not enough WCW fans left to have pulled off that miracle. WWE spent the better part of 30 years telling the world WCW sucked and that no one ever got over there. And then when the few that actually did get over came to WWE, they got booked like crap.

The stage failed with Scott Stiener, who is incredibly in demand by fans, Hogan, Warrior & Rey Mysterio (three of the best anchors Mattel has). Lastly that price point scared off too many of us that would have wanted it but didn't have the funds to make it a reality.

not to re-hash this, but no it wouldn't have. the figures were incredibly barebones for ultimates, the price point was too high, and WCW is not a strong enough brand anymore. most people dont have the kind of space to display something that big, and the fact that it was "convertible" made no sense, because why would I pay $400+ for this giant thing only to use half of it on display if I didn't have the room?

the reason most other crowdfund's have worked is because the collectors are flat out more passionate and the starting price points are better. or the overall product is more appealing (a giant Galactus is infinitely cooler than a stage set up for wrestling figures from a brand that's been defunct since 2001) Hasbro had their failed crowfunds too and it was always for really obvious reasons.

the only reason the new gen arena was successful is because people knew they would be able to flip it in a few years for profit. wrestling is still very niche. especially in the toy world. it doesnt have nearly the same appeal as Star Wars, Marvel, Transformers & even now, GI Joe

Better and more pertinent question is, who cares? What's done is done, we move on.

I think another deterrent was that people were trying to convince others with the New Gen that they can flip it for 5 times the profit. “Look at the sand barge” they would say. Then the thing came out and people are barely breaking even or taking losses on it. So there wasn’t the investment opportunity aspect pushing it either.

I don't think that the crowdfund being a WCW item had anything to do with it's failure. The overall sentiment when the Nitro stage was more than positive if you ask me when it was revealed. WCW being more than 20 years ago is also not a valid excuse either imo, otherwise Legends and figures from the early 90's wouldn't sell. I think there were a lot of other factors. I think overall whatever choices we got, there would always be some sort of backlash, disappointment or reasoning amongst us as to why we shouldn't get it. Some people wanted other items (Smackdown fist stage, limos, Raw stage, etc). One of the biggest complaints were the amount of the space that the Nitro stage would take. These items would take up a large amount of space too. Some folks wanted backstage/interview sets (like Piper's Pit etc). I can guarantee you that people would be complaining that two or three interchangeable backstage sets wouldn't be worth whatever Mattel would be charging. Which I can rightfully agree to. I could literally build my own interview sets for less than a $100. Then you have people who don't have the money, see the value or just don't want to spend over X amount on these things. On top of that, you have folks who want Mattel to just make exclusive crowdfund figures only, which they've stated numerous times that it's designed for playsets and items that wouldn't do well at retail. Mattel is also to blame imo, their marketing was terrible and they didn't start pushing the ball until halfway through the funding. They should of started advertising immediately, shown closeups of the set, explained how the remote functionality worked, maybe had someone like a '98 Booker T, '97 Starrcade Mr.Perfect in the lineup instead of Hogan. I think the '97 Starrcade Hogan would of been a better choice than the yellow and red. One of my last points were the international folks felt like they were getting additional fees and were excluded from being additional backers. Looking back, we barely made the New Gen crowdfund. I'd be completely fine if we never got another crowdfund. Especially, considering how much of a sh*tshow the last thread was. On another note, for those of you who backed the Nitro stage, what did you end up doing with the $450? Super curious. I was going to pay mine off in two increments.

I thought it failed because people criticized it on the internet.

I don’t think anything would’ve saved it if Steiner didn’t. Arguably the best figure, first time in the line and that didn’t even do it. There were many reasons that this failed; size, lack of room, price, ridiculous overseas tariffs, etc. I don’t think that character choice had that much to do with it. The selections were solid, and switching in Steiner - which so many people said would definitely put it over the edge - did very little. It was dead in the water. If it was up for like 6 months I think they could’ve gotten it made, but that’s just not how it works. As for DDP, he came third in my interest tier. I’d like to have it, which is more than I could say about Rey and Warrior, but I’d have rather had Steiner and Hogan way more. (Although a tan, more opulently designed Hollywood Hogan would’ve been received much better than another yellow and red Hogan, even if it came with the same 3 heads.)

Steiner
Hogan
DDP
Rey
Warrior

No

What ultimates would y’all want with raw is wat stage? I feel like there isn’t much left for AE ultimates