voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Aug 21, 2023 16:05:01 GMT -5
people still pretending "Christian is All Elite" isn't the exact same thing as "what's Christian doing in the Impact Zone" but decades apart is hilarious. WWE is never going to die or be pushed out of the #1 spot. Those folks are delusional. Where were all these marks when there was no alternative in America? Hiding in the shadows sharpening their keyboard skills for one day when a promotion would rise from the ashes? The whole "I love everything that isn't WWE" gimmick is stale. Has been for years. It was stale during the Monday Night Wars, it was stale when old legends went to TNA and it's stale today where the exact same things are happening under a different banner. These guys are just lifelong 2nd placers and they make the rest of us who enjoy ALL wrestling look bad. The irony of you calling other folks delusional is rich. WWE is the MCU or Fast and the Furious of wrestling. It might appeal to casuals and the lowest common denominators, but it isn't going to resonate for a more critical audience. It leaves a lot of me desired in terms of athletic performance. As far as being 2nd placers, that's more than fine with me. I was a 2nd placer who enjoyed Martin Scorsese's "The Irishman" over "Avengers Endgame." Apparently it's a gimmick to not like the most accessible and diluted form of entertainment now 😆 AEW appeals to a "critical audience?" What does that even mean? lol |
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Aug 21, 2023 16:29:06 GMT -5
people still pretending "Christian is All Elite" isn't the exact same thing as "what's Christian doing in the Impact Zone" but decades apart is hilarious. WWE is never going to die or be pushed out of the #1 spot. Those folks are delusional. Where were all these marks when there was no alternative in America? Hiding in the shadows sharpening their keyboard skills for one day when a promotion would rise from the ashes? The whole "I love everything that isn't WWE" gimmick is stale. Has been for years. It was stale during the Monday Night Wars, it was stale when old legends went to TNA and it's stale today where the exact same things are happening under a different banner. These guys are just lifelong 2nd placers and they make the rest of us who enjoy ALL wrestling look bad. The irony of you calling other folks delusional is rich. WWE is the MCU or Fast and the Furious of wrestling. It might appeal to casuals and the lowest common denominators, but it isn't going to resonate for a more critical audience. It leaves a lot of me desired in terms of athletic performance. As far as being 2nd placers, that's more than fine with me. I was a 2nd placer who enjoyed Martin Scorsese's "The Irishman" over "Avengers Endgame." Apparently it's a gimmick to not like the most accessible and diluted form of entertainment now 😆 Your opinion is sadly not a fact no matter how many times you look in the mirror and tell yourself it is. The numbers and stats don't lie. Come back to me when AEW has been in business for 20 years 🤡 mark |
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Aug 21, 2023 16:30:40 GMT -5
The irony of you calling other folks delusional is rich. WWE is the MCU or Fast and the Furious of wrestling. It might appeal to casuals and the lowest common denominators, but it isn't going to resonate for a more critical audience. It leaves a lot of me desired in terms of athletic performance. As far as being 2nd placers, that's more than fine with me. I was a 2nd placer who enjoyed Martin Scorsese's "The Irishman" over "Avengers Endgame." Apparently it's a gimmick to not like the most accessible and diluted form of entertainment now 😆 AEW appeals to a "critical audience?" What does that even mean? lol Haven't you heard? You have to have "a special eye for the product/business" to understand or enjoy AEW 🙄 same kinda clown that will tell you AEW has booked Sting better than TNA and WCW. Dudes not just drinking the Kool aid, he's choking on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2023 16:35:52 GMT -5
Your crazy if you think a televised Indy show is the number 1 wrestling promotion. Also Edge deserves to end his career in front of a sold out crowd, not a small half empty arena. WWE is for fans who prefer soap opera over pure athletics and wrestling.     |
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Post by HeelPiper on Aug 21, 2023 21:12:46 GMT -5
The irony of you calling other folks delusional is rich. WWE is the MCU or Fast and the Furious of wrestling. It might appeal to casuals and the lowest common denominators, but it isn't going to resonate for a more critical audience. It leaves a lot of me desired in terms of athletic performance. As far as being 2nd placers, that's more than fine with me. I was a 2nd placer who enjoyed Martin Scorsese's "The Irishman" over "Avengers Endgame." Apparently it's a gimmick to not like the most accessible and diluted form of entertainment now 😆 AEW appeals to a "critical audience?" What does that even mean? lol Its mean that the segment of the audience that is the most critical of workrate and in ring performances leans heavily in favor of AEW. They literally cater 80 percent of their product to the gaze of that audience. WWE is catered to mouth breathers who could care less about wrestling, and pretty much watch for mediocre community theater skits. Embarrassing. |
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Post by HeelPiper on Aug 21, 2023 21:14:43 GMT -5
WWE is for fans who prefer soap opera over pure athletics and wrestling. None of these matches bothered me at all. AEW caters 80 percent of their products to my tastes, so missfires, and matches that don't appeal to me are easily overlooked. WWE's use of Zombies, Pitch Black match, and so forth wouldn't bother me if they actually presented more 4*+ matches on a consistent basis. |
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Post by HeelPiper on Aug 21, 2023 21:17:49 GMT -5
The irony of you calling other folks delusional is rich. WWE is the MCU or Fast and the Furious of wrestling. It might appeal to casuals and the lowest common denominators, but it isn't going to resonate for a more critical audience. It leaves a lot of me desired in terms of athletic performance. As far as being 2nd placers, that's more than fine with me. I was a 2nd placer who enjoyed Martin Scorsese's "The Irishman" over "Avengers Endgame." Apparently it's a gimmick to not like the most accessible and diluted form of entertainment now 😆 Your opinion is sadly not a fact no matter how many times you look in the mirror and tell yourself it is. The numbers and stats don't lie. Come back to me when AEW has been in business for 20 years 🤡 mark The numbers and stats don't prove anything. Is reading comprehension not your thing? WWE is absolutely more palatable, more digestable, and thus more popular to the general public. That's not in dispute. Almost every hit record and movie in America that is #1 is usually not winning any artistic awards. At least not any prestigious ones. Did Endgame win an Oscar for best picture. Enjoy those 3 star Roman Reigns matches. |
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Aug 21, 2023 21:41:12 GMT -5
Your opinion is sadly not a fact no matter how many times you look in the mirror and tell yourself it is. The numbers and stats don't lie. Come back to me when AEW has been in business for 20 years 🤡 mark The numbers and stats don't prove anything. Is reading comprehension not your thing? WWE is absolutely more palatable, more digestable, and thus more popular to the general public. That's not in dispute. Almost every hit record and movie in America that is #1 is usually not winning any artistic awards. At least not any prestigious ones. Did Endgame win an Oscar for best picture. Enjoy those 3 star Roman Reigns matches.  Hmm lemme think, do I want an award or money? I think I'll take the money 😂 another mark for Meltzers star ratings is gonna cry, poor baby 🍼 |
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Aug 21, 2023 22:38:24 GMT -5
AEW appeals to a "critical audience?" What does that even mean? lol Its mean that the segment of the audience that is the most critical of workrate and in ring performances leans heavily in favor of AEW. They literally cater 80 percent of their product to the gaze of that audience. WWE is catered to mouth breathers who could care less about wrestling, and pretty much watch for mediocre community theater skits. Embarrassing. Lol. "Its mean that the segment of the audience that is the most critical of workrate and in ring performances leans heavily in favor of AEW." - What facts do you have to back this baseless claim? "They literally cater 80 percent of their product to the gaze of that audience." - I guess we just make up numbers now? "WWE is catered to mouth breathers" - Do you not breath out of your mouth? |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Aug 21, 2023 23:01:46 GMT -5
Your opinion is sadly not a fact no matter how many times you look in the mirror and tell yourself it is. The numbers and stats don't lie. Come back to me when AEW has been in business for 20 years 🤡 mark The numbers and stats don't prove anything. Is reading comprehension not your thing? WWE is absolutely more palatable, more digestable, and thus more popular to the general public. That's not in dispute. Almost every hit record and movie in America that is #1 is usually not winning any artistic awards. At least not any prestigious ones. Did Endgame win an Oscar for best picture. Enjoy those 3 star Roman Reigns matches. And this is where your argument fell flat on its face... Here is a list of the highest grossing movies domestically for the last ten years: 2022 - Top Gun: Maverick - Nominated for the Academy Award for Best Picture and won the Academy Award for Best Sound. 8.3/10 IMDb, 96% Rotten Tomatoes 2021 - Spider-Man: No Way Home - Nominated for the Academy Award for Best Visual Effects and won numerous industry awards 8.2/10 IMDb, 93% Rotten Tomatoes 2020 - Bad Boys for Life - Won the NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Motion Picture 6.5/10 IMDb, 76% Rotten Tomatoes 2019 - Avengers: Endgame - Nominated for the Academy Award for Best Visual Effects and won numerous industry awards including an Annie Award and two Critics' Choice Awards 8.4/10 IMDb, 94% Rotten Tomatoes 2018 - Black Panther - Nominated for the Academy Award for Best Picture and Won the Academy Awards for Best Costume Design, Best Score, and Best Production Design 7.3/10 IMDb, 96% Rotten Tomatoes 2017 - Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Nominated for four Academy Awards 6.9/10 IMDb, 91% Rotten Tomatoes 2016 - Rogue One - Nominated for two Academy Awards 7.8/10 IMDb, 84% Rotten Tomatoes 2015 - Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Nominated for five Academy Awards and is in the AFI Top 10 Films of the Year 7.8/10 IMDb, 93% Rotten Tomatoes 2014 - American Sniper - Nominated for six Academy Awards and won the Academy Award for Best Sound Editing 7.3/10 IMDb, 72% Rotten Tomatoes 2013 - The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - Nominated for a Grammy and Golden Globe and won minor awards including an MTV Award and Saturn Award 7.5/10 IMDb, 90% Rotten Tomatoes Looks like most of these commercially successful films won artistic awards... And that's just the last ten years... You are basically saying that AEW is critically successful while WWE is commercially successful and cannot necessarily both. Your movie analogy would certainly suggest otherwise. You can be commercially successful, appeal to a larger audience, and STILL be critically successful. [Note: The following message contains facts. Not made up numbers pulled from thin air] |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Aug 21, 2023 23:10:02 GMT -5
Your opinion is sadly not a fact no matter how many times you look in the mirror and tell yourself it is. The numbers and stats don't lie. Come back to me when AEW has been in business for 20 years 🤡 mark The numbers and stats don't prove anything. Is reading comprehension not your thing? WWE is absolutely more palatable, more digestable, and thus more popular to the general public. That's not in dispute. Almost every hit record and movie in America that is #1 is usually not winning any artistic awards. At least not any prestigious ones. Did Endgame win an Oscar for best picture. Enjoy those 3 star Roman Reigns matches.According to your boy Dave Meltzer: Roman Reigns vs. Sami Zayn 4.75 Roman Reigns and Solo Sikoa vs. Jimmy and Jey Uso 4.5 Roman Reigns and Solo Sikoa vs. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn 4.5 Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes 4.5 You were saying... |
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Post by Sizzle on Aug 21, 2023 23:14:21 GMT -5
AEW is fine art.
WWE is slop.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2023 4:57:58 GMT -5
None of these matches bothered me at all. AEW caters 80 percent of their products to my tastes, so missfires, and matches that don't appeal to me are easily overlooked. WWE's use of Zombies, Pitch Black match, and so forth wouldn't bother me if they actually presented more 4*+ matches on a consistent basis. You don't have to remind me of the tastes of an AEW mark. But hey, at least they cater to you 80% of the time! |
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Aug 22, 2023 9:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 22, 2023 20:02:51 GMT -5
This thread got derailed pretty hard. But to get things back on track, assuming Edge isn't going anywhere, he should 100% have a program with Cody Rhodes with Rhodes going over, and then moving onto Edge winning the WHC before retiring.
I also think Drew would benefit from a program with Edge, and let him go over while they're at.
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Post by J-MANN on Aug 23, 2023 8:35:05 GMT -5
I like Edge better as a heel.
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Post by jordanimal on Aug 23, 2023 10:48:11 GMT -5
This thread got derailed pretty hard. But to get things back on track, assuming Edge isn't going anywhere, he should 100% have a program with Cody Rhodes with Rhodes going over, and then moving onto Edge winning the WHC before retiring. I also think Drew would benefit from a program with Edge, and let him go over while they're at. oh man id love to see either! (or both!). |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 23, 2023 18:08:23 GMT -5
AEW appeals to a "critical audience?" What does that even mean? lol In this context, it just means “Dave Meltzer.” If you don’t know who that is, you’re better off not knowing, but he’s a Californian gargoyle who can’t string a sentence together and has influenced perpetually lonely men to unironically use words like “workrate.” He writes a wrestling fanzine and used to be friends with old WWF manager Jim Cornette, but then they fell out because Meltzer made friends with some indie wrestlers Cornette hates. So now they rant about each other on their podcasts. Dave Meltzer is the “critical audience” that WWE doesn’t appeal to. But in answer to the thread question, I can’t think of anyone left that would be a big deal final feud for Edge. Austin Theory could’ve been a really good one if he hadn’t fallen off, but at this stage, Theory isn’t on that level. Maybe Bray Wyatt, if he hadn’t Bray Wyatted again. I suppose Grayson Waller is the best option now, but that would take a hell of a storyline to feel big. Edge has ran out of steam since the original Judgment Day plans fell through, so maybe this thing with Sheamus in Toronto was the best we were gonna get. Actually, scratch that. Gunther. It should be a feud with Gunther. |
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Aug 23, 2023 19:51:39 GMT -5
Apparently it was the WWE contract negotiators, and they weren't in the mood to put him over brother
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 23, 2023 23:06:34 GMT -5
This thread got derailed pretty hard. But to get things back on track, assuming Edge isn't going anywhere, he should 100% have a program with Cody Rhodes with Rhodes going over, and then moving onto Edge winning the WHC before retiring. I also think Drew would benefit from a program with Edge, and let him go over while they're at. I agree. I think even if Edge even having fun transitional run with the WHC would be do it a lot of favors. I think there’s still lot of juice and story content we can get out of edge. I think we’ve been blessed with beautiful return run. It’s had its blunders with the judgment day misfire and getting Edge out of the funk. It did result in some fun matches but I’d rather disregard that 2022 part. I have strong feeling Edge is going to AEW to set up some reunion with Christian and final match with Hardy’s, maybe some others, and Edge Vs. Christian and that’s the real end Or this is all just work to set up some WM 40 Angle |
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