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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 12:06:26 GMT -5
Some of you are insufferable lol
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 2, 2023 12:06:48 GMT -5
The WWE vs AEW fans are goofy as hell at this point. It’s been 4 years. It’s all fake ass pro wrestling. Constantly getting in arguments over it comes across as sad.
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 2, 2023 12:13:54 GMT -5
The funniest part to me about the tribaliam is that the go to argument for some is ratings and attendance. That has nothing to do with the in ring product. But some see it as a way to make themselves feel better that their show is better. So silly.
Copeland's first match is in two Dynamites time versus Luchasaurus. Clean win? Or will Christian interfere?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 12:22:57 GMT -5
The funniest part to me about the tribaliam is that the go to argument for some is ratings and attendance. That has nothing to do with the in ring product. But some see it as a way to make themselves feel better that their show is better. So silly. Copeland's first match is in two Dynamites time versus Luchasaurus. Clean win? Or will Christian interfere? Clean win for sure. Probably some shenanigans leading to a Christian/Lucha/Nick vs Edge/Darby/Sting match
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Oct 2, 2023 12:46:43 GMT -5
Happy for Copeland. I'll probably tune in to see how it all plays out. I'm in one of those phases where I'm just not interested in anything going on in wrestling so hopefully this can change that.
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Post by CymruX2 on Oct 2, 2023 12:53:13 GMT -5
Happy to see more from Edge, was stoked to see him return to WWE but felt he was never really given much to work with after his series with Orton.
The nostalgia glands are salivating at the idea of E&C vs the Hardys vs The Dudleys
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 12:59:14 GMT -5
As long as Adam is happy doing what he’s doing, he made the right choice for himself.
I’ve seen Christian vs Edge though… multiple times. Zero interest in seeing it again in their 40’s-50’s. Much like having no interest in seeing The Hardyz in their 40’s.
The tribalism is very weird though.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Oct 2, 2023 13:14:34 GMT -5
The funniest part to me about the tribaliam is that the go to argument for some is ratings and attendance. That has nothing to do with the in ring product. But some see it as a way to make themselves feel better that their show is better. So silly.Copeland's first match is in two Dynamites time versus Luchasaurus. Clean win? Or will Christian interfere? For an extra layer, it wasn't so long ago that the positions were flipped, that it wasn't fair to compare those things. Mods "retired" because they couldn't do enough to stop empirical data getting in the way of the board's "enjoyment".
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Post by Liquid Swordsman on Oct 2, 2023 14:26:42 GMT -5
Honestly Cargill for Edge seems like a fantastic trade for both companies. AEW didn't know what to do with Jade and its widely accepted that WWE is a much better fit for her. Edge's last run didn't really hit the heights anyone had hoped in WWE. He had a few good matches but the the only person that was ever made to look good was Edge. Now he gets to go hang out with his best buddy and have some great matches with a bunch of fresh faces. Everyone's happy. And it's a win win if you're a wrestling fan. The contract signings and anticipations makes the business feel refreshing and exciting. Hell, even the Brian Pillman NXT vignettes got me hyped.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Oct 2, 2023 14:50:34 GMT -5
Wrestling fans who think they're superfans are so lame. Sadly I used to be one of those people back in the Attitude Era. I spent most of it despising WCW because I was a brainwashed WWE fanboy like SOOOOOO many here. Eventually I grew up and realized how awesome it was having multiple companies that wrestlers can go back and forth to and give us fans new and interesting possibilities. Those were awesome times back then, like it is again now. Problem is that next wave of brainwashed WWE fanBOYS haven't grown up yet and realized how great this is for everyone. The anticipation of, "IS CODY SHOWING UP TONIGHT?" The anticipation of, "IS EDGE SHOWING UP TONIGHT?" None of that "anticipation" exists without multiple companies. FanBOYS would rather AEW go away so they can claim (like I did when WCW went out of business) that "we won." Cody was garbage in WWE. He left. WWE fans didn't care. Cody went to AEW and WWE fans thought he was a loser in the minor leagues. Cody signs with WWE and WWE fans act like "THEY WON." They signed Cody from AEW. Cody is the greatest. We all love Cody. Jade Cargill is a nobody. She sucks. She can't wrestle. She's the queen of their internet shows. Jade signs with WWE and now suddenly the fanBOYS can't stop telling you how awesome she is and how big a star she's going to be.......... Edge comes back to WWE after a long retirement. WWE fans LOVE Edge. His contract runs out and he signs with AEW and suddenly the WWE fanBOYS can't stop talking about how old is he. He's washed up. I can't wait for him to get hurt...... It's pathetic at this point. I'm so glad the internet didn't exist (like it does today) during the Attitude era or what goes on with the whining now would have been 10x worse because the fanbase was 10x bigger. this is the most intelligent take I've seen on here. It goes both ways for tribalism but I was the same way as a kid saying "we won" only to go back and enjoy the WCW content that I have seen.
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Post by McBlake on Oct 2, 2023 15:45:01 GMT -5
Oblivious tribalism might be my new favourite form of content.
"Here's a list of 20 things I hate about X company, another 20 reasons why their fans absolutely suck. X wrestler made the wrong decision leaving the company I like and I've lost all respect for them for doing so / My favourite part of X debut was reading all the opposing fans salty comments online. If you don't agree with me you're obviously wrong and don't like real wrestling.
What do you mean I'm part of the problem?!"
So funny.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 2, 2023 15:57:43 GMT -5
The tribalism is very weird though. You should ask yourself why you take part in it. Maybe we can get to the root problem.
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Post by Jack Specific on Oct 2, 2023 16:17:34 GMT -5
Enough with the fighting and trolling in this thread. This is an AEW thread regarding Wrestledream 2023, not anything to do with WWE. It's not a comparison thread and it's not an argument thread so please stop. Anyone else who wants to troll or argue in this thread from here on in will be banned immediately. This is your one and only warning.
Thank you, JS
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 2, 2023 17:06:16 GMT -5
Adam Copeland signing with AEW may be the biggest name they ever signed that was a WWE superstar just weeks earlier.
Jericho signing before the company was started was huge, Moxley signing after leaving the WWE was huge, CM Punk signing after being gone from the WWE for 7 years or so was huge, but Adam Copeland who just appeared on WWE TV a few weeks ago in a highly impact main event match signing and showing up in AEW is really huge!
It would be on par with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash going from WWF to WCW in 1996.
I hope Adam has fun in AEW, he really has nothing left to do in the WWE. He has a lot of new goals, matches and memories he can have now in AEW for the next few years before he finally decides to hang it up.
I am sure if WCW had remained active in the 2000s, there is a good chance Adam would have jumped to WCW too then. Money talks as does creative juices.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Oct 2, 2023 20:59:36 GMT -5
I watched the main event. What an incredibly stupid and pointless move for Darby to take. It does nothing for him. Landing on the bottom half of the steps would have been safer and had the same effect. Considering the heel turn afterwards by the other guy, and Edge's debut, whos going to remember that spot? No one. Its like when Lesnar told Seth not to do too much in their Battleground match because everyone will be talking about Lesnar and Taker afterwards.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 2, 2023 22:12:58 GMT -5
I watched the main event. What an incredibly stupid and pointless move for Darby to take. It does nothing for him. Landing on the bottom half of the steps would have been safer and had the same effect. Considering the heel turn afterwards by the other guy, and Edge's debut, whos going to remember that spot? No one. Its like when Lesnar told Seth not to do too much in their Battleground match because everyone will be talking about Lesnar and Taker afterwards. At first I thought Christian was too weak to pick Darby up the first time he tried when he dumped him on the floor instead. Now I think Christian literally said to himself in that moment that he wasn't going to do it. So he did the half-assed version later. Then Darby probably pleaded to do it and so he did.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Oct 2, 2023 23:06:44 GMT -5
I watched the main event. What an incredibly stupid and pointless move for Darby to take. It does nothing for him. Landing on the bottom half of the steps would have been safer and had the same effect. Considering the heel turn afterwards by the other guy, and Edge's debut, whos going to remember that spot? No one. Its like when Lesnar told Seth not to do too much in their Battleground match because everyone will be talking about Lesnar and Taker afterwards. At first I thought Christian was too weak to pick Darby up the first time he tried when he dumped him on the floor instead. Now I think Christian literally said to himself in that moment that he wasn't going to do it. So he did the half-assed version later. Then Darby probably pleaded to do it and so he did. I got a hesitation vibe too.
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Post by bWo on Oct 3, 2023 10:45:10 GMT -5
One thing people are saying was stupid (and I agree) was Edge's video package playing. It's one thing to wonder how they miraculously had his music ready to play, but having an entire video shot and ready to play was over the top and not really necessary.
He had to turn on Christian. You don't want to take that massive reaction and squash it. Especially going forward for a while where Edge will be getting the CM Punk ovations from the people. They have to ride that wave out and sell the merch before they turn him so he can side with his best friend.
Edge is another Brian Danielson type for the locker room. A bigger star than most of the people in AEW, but doesn't come in with an ego because he almost had his career taken from him. I think he goes in there a lot more humble than a guy like Punk does, but also gets the same respect for his star power.
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Post by Eugene69 on Oct 3, 2023 11:20:35 GMT -5
Christian >>> Edge
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Post by RSCTom on Oct 3, 2023 11:58:13 GMT -5
I’ve seen Christian vs Edge though… multiple times. Zero interest in seeing it again in their 40’s-50’s. Much like having no interest in seeing The Hardyz in their 40’s. You have? They had an IC title feud over 20 years ago, have been across from each other in a couple random tag team matches and then years later a single match on Raw that ended up being all about Randy Orton and Undertaker as opposed to any sort of core Edge and Christian rivalry. It seemed like it was going to happen in 2010 on a grander scale but it's never happened with any kind of A level stakes because Christian has been 'lower card'. There've been a bunch of missed opportunities and I know people want to see Edge elevate talent but this could elevate Christian in a way that's sorely needed so the 'Edge's friend' thing is only used as something for heat as opposed to something that gets mentioned constantly as if it's all that matters. I think it's worth seeing what they would get into (with plenty of build of course), face to face as the top level guys instead of with some other influence or with something else in play in a way that takes away from a pretty storied history. I don't think the Hardyz are on the level of either guy at this point, as singles especially. It's not a question that other than arguably Jeff Hardy at one point, E&C came out of the Attitude Era 'ladder trio' of tag teams with the best singles careers and that's exactly why they should be kept as far away from teaming with each other as possible until they've completely exhausted a singles face off on the biggest stage they've ever had for it or they start it there and then end with a singles face off. There's an opportunity to give way more value to us as fans than seeing the nostalgia act (which WWE even already gave us because they don't know how to do anything else) of them tagging again "one last time" which is as tiring as it gets. I'm actually surprised more people aren't talking about them feuding against each other and just immediately jump to the idea of them tagging because that's what has really been done too many times.
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