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Post by K5 on Oct 22, 2023 12:29:53 GMT -5
they literally tried to bury bryan and he rose DESPITE the booking. and pls don't suggest that was intentional on their part cena was the first 'face' of a company to be booed completely out of the building - repeatedly. reigns being the second. It doesn't matter if they didn't intend to push Bryan the way they did. He still ended up being booked well. People were completely tired of Hogan by the end of his first run in WWE. Go watch him when he goes back to eliminate Sid in the Royal Rumble. People were sick of him. he wasn't booked well. he overcame bad booking. that is plain as day, can't spin it end of hogan's first run...almost a full decade after it started and the company had tried shifting directions and failed. sounds reasonable. and completely not comparable lol
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Post by MKSavage on Oct 22, 2023 13:06:40 GMT -5
they literally tried to bury bryan and he rose DESPITE the booking. and pls don't suggest that was intentional on their part cena was the first 'face' of a company to be booed completely out of the building - repeatedly. reigns being the second. It doesn't matter if they didn't intend to push Bryan the way they did. He still ended up being booked well. People were completely tired of Hogan by the end of his first run in WWE. Go watch him when he goes back to eliminate Sid in the Royal Rumble. People were sick of him. Yes, after about a decade, people were tiring of the Hogan gimmick, but they didn't necessarily boo Hogan at the 1992 Rumble because they were tired of him, they booed him because of the way he eliminated another heavy fan favorite at the time. If you listened to the crowd reaction when Hogan entered the match, fans were still behind him, they just didn't like the heel move he used to eliminate Sid when Sid did nothing wrong. The WWF was able to turn that around pretty quickly, Hogan got huge reactions at the SNME in February of 1992 and at WM8. But yes, fans were starting to tire of the Hogan always winning by this point. But still, the crowd was never 50/50, most were still in favor of Hogan at the time. Just an FYI, I am not a big Hogan fan, and wasn't even at that time.
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Post by Nick the Quick on Oct 22, 2023 18:53:23 GMT -5
I for one do not want Roman to pass Hogan. The issue with this reign is that, just like Roman’s push his entire career, it’s completely and obviously forced. I don’t hate Roman Reigns, I’ve just been over this reign for a long time. Two opportunities to make the end meaningful were sacrificed to hype him up, Drew at CATC and Cody at WM 39. If they keep dragging this out just to pad up more meaningless stats, when Reigns finally gets beat nobody will care. Both are polarizing figures, but Roman Reigns will never be anywhere near Hulk Hogan’s level no matter how much he’s hyped up.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Oct 24, 2023 19:41:31 GMT -5
I for one do not want Roman to pass Hogan. The issue with this reign is that, just like Roman’s push his entire career, it’s completely and obviously forced. I don’t hate Roman Reigns, I’ve just been over this reign for a long time. Two opportunities to make the end meaningful were sacrificed to hype him up, Drew at CATC and Cody at WM 39. If they keep dragging this out just to pad up more meaningless stats, when Reigns finally gets beat nobody will care. Both are polarizing figures, but Roman Reigns will never be anywhere near Hulk Hogan’s level no matter how much he’s hyped up. Three if you count Sami. I know he's not as big of a name or as physically imposing as the others/not the look of a face of the company but that story had him white hot for their PPV match. Coulda been a huge moment for any of the three if management decided to pull the trigger.
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Post by tigerlillysingh on Oct 24, 2023 20:30:20 GMT -5
Pretty meaningless all said… nobody is going to look back with any fondness in time on reigns. This hide the strap, same finish to every match, game renders everything on tv or whatever as meaningless too, nice little one two punch that - the shows outline must skirt round his existence constantly and offers truly zero inspiring viewing. I’ve tried to give it a go again but how does anyone find anything going on in WWE fun to watch? Wake me up when it’s over… when he’s retired, thx.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Oct 25, 2023 19:43:47 GMT -5
I watch WWE now. I enjoy WWE now.
But here's the thing.
Roman as a champion is weak. Not nearly as weak as the collective disaster that is The Judgment Day (Who feel physically incapable of winning any match ever without a group effort and their leader is literally untouchable). But Roman's strength was the supporting cast. The Bloodline was interesting because of Sami. Because of Jey. Because of Heyman. Hell, the whole thing about Roman was making him a Heyman Guy, and then taking it from there. They can keep him atop his Island of Relevency as long as they want but there is no TV service on that damn Island and as long as he's not showing up for work, he's pointless. It's really easy to hold a title for a full year when you only defend it 3 times a year. It's not impressive it's EMBARRASSING. He's improved, sure. He's got personality now that he didn't have before and I do enjoy watching him... when he shows up. Which isn't often enough to make me care anymore.
Roman is meaningless now. He's made that title meaningless as well. He might as well retire with it and put the new WHC on both shows. At least that belt has worth at this point. And when people look back on his title reign, I'm sure it will be with WWE's nostalgia goggles that will completely minimize the way that it was Sami and Jey getting people to tune in every week, not Roman.
I will say I don't hold the fact that Kevin didn't get the win over Roman at LMS against him. That was a botch and a bad one at that. It was a dumb idea to do that spot all around, although it gave Kevin a good reason to come back around for round 2 this last year.
But overall, yeah, I'm ready for Roman to lose that belt. I was ready months ago. In my mind, they should have done a better job building Jey before Summerslam and had him win it. It would have been the perfect bookend to the storyline. Jey was the first person to pin Roman on the main roster. Jey was the first person to pin Roman as champion. Jey should have been the one to win the belt off him. It would have made sense for the story if only they had put more work into Jey ahead of time. Especially seeing him now and how over he's gotten on his own.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Oct 30, 2023 11:20:38 GMT -5
Lance Anoa'i and Juicy Finau have obtained their releases from MLW today. Hopefully we'll see them and Jacob Fatu show up to keep this Bloodline story going for another year ☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽 Cody's story is going to become the never-ending story only not as cool as the movie
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Oct 30, 2023 13:28:22 GMT -5
Surely they won't rehash the same general story with lesser known names....
Wait a minute.... it's WWE so anything can happen.
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Post by J-MANN on Oct 30, 2023 18:11:33 GMT -5
Surely they won't rehash the same general story with lesser known names.... Wait a minute.... it's WWE so anything can happen. You know it’s gonna happen, Roman needs all the help he can get to win his matches these days.
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Post by K5 on Oct 30, 2023 19:21:06 GMT -5
Fatu is the biggest badass in wrestling today. dude is a beast
Fatu/Reigns is about the only feud I would be interested in seeing Reigns be a part of. story writes itself, ignored criminal cousin believes he should be king.
would be money.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Oct 30, 2023 19:35:32 GMT -5
Surely they won't rehash the same general story with lesser known names.... Wait a minute.... it's WWE so anything can happen. You know it’s gonna happen, Roman needs all the help he can get to win his matches these days. I figured if he was gonna beat anyone clean it would've been Logan Paul but he didn't even win that one clean
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Post by Nick the Quick on Oct 30, 2023 20:44:49 GMT -5
I for one do not want Roman to pass Hogan. The issue with this reign is that, just like Roman’s push his entire career, it’s completely and obviously forced. I don’t hate Roman Reigns, I’ve just been over this reign for a long time. Two opportunities to make the end meaningful were sacrificed to hype him up, Drew at CATC and Cody at WM 39. If they keep dragging this out just to pad up more meaningless stats, when Reigns finally gets beat nobody will care. Both are polarizing figures, but Roman Reigns will never be anywhere near Hulk Hogan’s level no matter how much he’s hyped up. Three if you count Sami. I know he's not as big of a name or as physically imposing as the others/not the look of a face of the company but that story had him white hot for their PPV match. Coulda been a huge moment for any of the three if management decided to pull the trigger. Just seeing this now, sorry for the late reply… In no way was I trying to exclude Sami. Yes he was white hot going into Montreal, but I knew the whole time he wasn’t going over. In the cases of Drew and Cody I really hoped/thought they had a legit chance.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Oct 31, 2023 1:27:26 GMT -5
It’s lost a lot of steam with the Bloodline civil war angle getting fumbled.
I wouldn’t be shocked if we get Rock/Cody night 1-night 2 angle. Or Cody somehow gets shuffled into different program for summer slam showdown to win
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Post by Odafin Tutuola on Oct 31, 2023 16:44:40 GMT -5
It’s lost a lot of steam with the Bloodline civil war angle getting fumbled. I wouldn’t be shocked if we get Rock/Cody night 1-night 2 angle. Or Cody somehow gets shuffled into different program for summer slam showdown to win Roman Vs. Cody 2 is happening at WrestleMania.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Nov 1, 2023 17:32:30 GMT -5
Unless he's champion into and beyond 2028 there's no real reason to continue the reign past Mania. Should've pulled the trigger at 39 but whatever.
The point is made. Roman is presented on his own level. He's over and will remain over without the title.
Jey is already a star. Jimmy is coming into his own.
Solo still punches and kicks.
Heyman can do anything and do it well so He's always covered.
Time to move on
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Post by Papi Joker on Nov 1, 2023 22:38:11 GMT -5
what they are doing is making his record breaking CHEAP so that we hate him
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Nov 2, 2023 11:48:02 GMT -5
It’s lost a lot of steam with the Bloodline civil war angle getting fumbled. I wouldn’t be shocked if we get Rock/Cody night 1-night 2 angle. Or Cody somehow gets shuffled into different program for summer slam showdown to win Roman Vs. Cody 2 is happening at WrestleMania. AND STILL
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Post by J-MANN on Nov 2, 2023 11:59:08 GMT -5
Roman Vs. Cody 2 is happening at WrestleMania. AND STILL Stop it.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Nov 2, 2023 12:28:57 GMT -5
someone's gotta put on for the Champ 😆 nobody else seems to
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Nov 2, 2023 17:58:40 GMT -5
someone's gotta put on for the Champ 😆 nobody else seems to Because we wanna put on for another guy as champ
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