drgreenevil
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Post by drgreenevil on Jan 23, 2024 19:19:04 GMT -5
My Spidey-sense wasn't that far off. I kept feeling like Raw would end up at Amazon. I was right that it would go to streaming, just got the where wrong.
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Post by cableV on Jan 23, 2024 19:29:57 GMT -5
All the streaming services are going to keep increasing the prices(just like everything else). It has little to do with newly acquired content. With the exception of Netflix, I don't think any of them make a profit.
I'm grandfathered in to getting Netflix "free" with my insanely priced Xfinity package(which just when up again!). If I want to make changes to my cable plan, I have to go on one of new plans, that don't include Netflix. I also get Peacock free for another 2 years.
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Post by cableV on Jan 23, 2024 19:34:04 GMT -5
5 billion for 10 years ffs 5 Bill Phil
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 23, 2024 20:18:23 GMT -5
Fantastic news. WWE once again innovating and making the big bucks. It’s going to be surreal seeing Raw in the Netflix menu.
I just cancelled Netflix because premium is so expensive and I don’t watch enough stuff on there to justify it, but man, I’ll be back on it by next year’s Royal Rumble.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jan 23, 2024 20:49:57 GMT -5
January 2025 can’t come any sooner when I can start watching RAW, SmackDown and NXT weekly for £10 a month 🥳
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Post by LA Times on Jan 23, 2024 21:44:13 GMT -5
Its going to be the end of the road for me on January 2025 when it comes to watching Raw and for real this time. I have never subscribed to a streaming service and I never will.
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nickp
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Post by nickp on Jan 23, 2024 22:01:30 GMT -5
RAW being on Netflix is really weird to me
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 23, 2024 22:50:39 GMT -5
Its going to be the end of the road for me on January 2025 when it comes to watching Raw and for real this time. I have never subscribed to a streaming service and I never will. lol what a silly hill to die on...
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 23, 2024 23:05:25 GMT -5
People act like cable is dying and no one has it anymore yet last year's Super Bowl had over 115 million viewers and is the highest rated superbowl of all time. In the year 2023. Just some food for thought. I bring this up occasionally when people talk cable and ratings and no one ever wants to talk about it lol It's just young folk who have the latest tech, live on their phones, stream, and spend all day on forums lol. Of course they think that way. But go out ... look around you. You'll see way more people than not who don't live life via social media, etc. Maybe when Gen Alpha is in their 30s we can think that way ... but again, these debates never take in account the millions of people who can't afford streaming. They can afford basic cable or OTA. Jesus, there are still millions of people who don't even have smart phones. You're ignoring all of the people that use streaming as a way to watch basic cable channels. You can subscribe to Hulu Live or YouTube TV and watch the Super Bowl on Fox through those services. Also, the Nielsen rating also takes into account the fact that multiple people watched together. According to Jon Stainer, Nielsen Global Sports Managing Director, "We recognize the uniqueness of this media event around group viewing parties and this additional custom survey helps supplement our audience measurement." So, 115 million "viewers" does not translate to 115 million individual people owning cable. I am sure that there are more than 115 million people that have cable, but the Super Bowl argument has it's flaws and actual facts state that cable lost 1.73M subscribers in the second quarter of 2023. Plus, projectionists claim that by 2027, the number of US households with a cable subscription will fall below 50%. You can say it's the "young folk" boasting about new technology, but it seems like you fall in the dinosaur category that refuses to acknowledge change.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 23:35:35 GMT -5
People are paying x-amount for cable, but x-amount for streaming services? Absolutely not, that’s ridiculous!
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Post by Liquid Swordsman on Jan 24, 2024 0:02:15 GMT -5
I think the only downside for people like me who have siblings in the household using the same netflix account, I'm most likely going to have to buy my own subscription to avoid the watch limit because if someone decides to watch netflix before Raw comes on, I'm screwed.
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@brit_figs
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Post by @brit_figs on Jan 24, 2024 3:50:27 GMT -5
Its going to be the end of the road for me on January 2025 when it comes to watching Raw and for real this time. I have never subscribed to a streaming service and I never will. Leave the memories alone 🎶
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Post by BSR on Jan 24, 2024 5:01:47 GMT -5
This is massive news.
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Post by BSR on Jan 24, 2024 5:03:59 GMT -5
How integral is the rock in this. Does Netflix expect him on every show?
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 24, 2024 10:55:19 GMT -5
It's just young folk who have the latest tech, live on their phones, stream, and spend all day on forums lol. Of course they think that way. But go out ... look around you. You'll see way more people than not who don't live life via social media, etc. Maybe when Gen Alpha is in their 30s we can think that way ... but again, these debates never take in account the millions of people who can't afford streaming. They can afford basic cable or OTA. Jesus, there are still millions of people who don't even have smart phones. You're ignoring all of the people that use streaming as a way to watch basic cable channels. You can subscribe to Hulu Live or YouTube TV and watch the Super Bowl on Fox through those services. Also, the Nielsen rating also takes into account the fact that multiple people watched together. According to Jon Stainer, Nielsen Global Sports Managing Director, "We recognize the uniqueness of this media event around group viewing parties and this additional custom survey helps supplement our audience measurement." So, 115 million "viewers" does not translate to 115 million individual people owning cable. I am sure that there are more than 115 million people that have cable, but the Super Bowl argument has it's flaws and actual facts state that cable lost 1.73M subscribers in the second quarter of 2023. Plus, projectionists claim that by 2027, the number of US households with a cable subscription will fall below 50%. You can say it's the "young folk" boasting about new technology, but it seems like you fall in the dinosaur category that refuses to acknowledge change. I admitted that when Gen Alpha gets into their 30s it will be different. But that's a ways away. I have cable AND multiple streaming services. I know what streaming offers. But for the time being, RAW will lose some viewers. Nothing wrong with that. They'll be fine.
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 24, 2024 10:56:53 GMT -5
How integral is the rock in this. Does Netflix expect him on every show? Well he ... excuse me, the writers made his daughter GM of NXT. So ... I think he has some pull. Enough pull to tell Netflix to kick rocks. "You'll get me when you get me."
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kinnikuman
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Post by kinnikuman on Jan 24, 2024 11:00:11 GMT -5
People are paying x-amount for cable, but x-amount for streaming services? Absolutely not, that’s ridiculous! I always chuckle at people who "cut the cord" to save money ... but now subscribe to Netflix, Prime, Disney+, etc. Again, streaming is business ... not some way to save against the evil giant that was cable. Streaming will get you in the end. I mean, I guess someone could just have one streaming service but you'll miss out on lots of great content.
And don't get me started on Apple and META trying to force vision goggles and imaginary land as our future. Oof.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 11:08:47 GMT -5
Its going to be the end of the road for me on January 2025 when it comes to watching Raw and for real this time. I have never subscribed to a streaming service and I never will. lol what a silly hill to die on... It really is. Eventually traditional tv is going to be a thing of the past
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celflessness
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Post by celflessness on Jan 24, 2024 11:23:09 GMT -5
People are paying x-amount for cable, but x-amount for streaming services? Absolutely not, that’s ridiculous! I always chuckle at people who "cut the cord" to save money ... but now subscribe to Netflix, Prime, Disney+, etc. Again, streaming is business ... not some way to save against the evil giant that was cable. Streaming will get you in the end. I mean, I guess someone could just have one streaming service but you'll miss out on lots of great content.
And don't get me started on Apple and META trying to force vision goggles and imaginary land as our future. Oof.
I typically rotate through the streaming services, never having more than one at a time. Usually streaming services are perfect for that kind of treatment. They drop a show I really want to see (often all at once) I'll buy a month, watch it and a few others things, then unsubscribe until something else shows up. Did that with Reacher on Amazon Prime this month. by the end of my month there will be nothing left I want to watch, so I'll unsubscribe until season 3 next year. Maybe in February I'll do Disney. Maybe skip March entirely. Vastly cheaper than paid TV packages. However, WWE RAW doesn't work like that, which makes it a really interesting move for Netflix. It encourages keeping that constant subscription going, which I typically avoid like the plague. It probably won't change what I do (haven't watched a full RAW in years) but very interesting nonetheless. Could work amazingly. Could backfire spectacularly. Either way, WWE get paid I guess.
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Post by K5 on Jan 24, 2024 11:34:29 GMT -5
I think if you look between the lines here you can see that this deal by Netflix shows that they have big big plans to expand the dominance of streaming in the very near future (2 years) in big big ways.
people might be using cable now, but not for long.
when the milk man stopped coming around and you had to buy it at the store, the milk industry probably lost some customers. didn't seem to stop them, did it?
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