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Post by PJ on Jan 30, 2024 7:26:19 GMT -5
God no. Did he have a place on the cards? While I am not a big fan of his I can say Yeah I think so, but certainly not as the champion.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Jan 30, 2024 14:45:32 GMT -5
i’d like to hear the opinion of that girl that’s obsessed with shane o’mac on this subject.
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Post by J-MANN: Tag Team Champion on Jan 30, 2024 14:48:31 GMT -5
i’d like to hear the opinion of that girl that’s obsessed with shane o’mac on this subject. shanieomaniac
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jan 30, 2024 18:06:13 GMT -5
He should not have.
However, they could've pulled it off in the AE.
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Post by X-27 on Jan 30, 2024 18:11:05 GMT -5
I don't think he should've...but I wouldn't of been shocked if it had happened.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 30, 2024 18:13:28 GMT -5
Shane Helms?
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 30, 2024 18:18:04 GMT -5
He also should have lol honestly
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Post by shanieomaniac on Feb 2, 2024 18:02:55 GMT -5
Oh geez, uh, you guys probably won't like my answer on this one.
Out of all the times when I think Shane could have won the title, two come to mind.
The first is stated as above. If they had given him the belt during his Best in the World deal, it would have been the biggest heel move ever, especially if he did what he was doing then and had lackies such as Drew and Elias basically hand it to him. And then, again as stated above, Kevin takes the title off him, possibly in that ladder match they had that sent Shane packing. Kevin's rants and campaign against Shane's power hunger would have been even more powerful if Kevin had Shane maneuvering himself into the Championship as ammo. And then, you could have easily had Shane, being as extremely cocky as he was at the time, get tricked by KO to put both the title AND his job on the line, he loses BOTH and KO would go into the new era of Smackdown as champion, rather than what we got with Brock just stomping Kofi and ending his run on an embarrassing note. Hate to say it, but that would have genuinely been preferable to what we got in every aspect of that situation.
The only other time when it would have made sense for him to potentially win it was during the Corporation era, specifically when he did have a title shot against the Rock. At the time, the whole idea was that nobody could out-speed Shane and especially nobody could outclimb him. His climbing ability, even outside of Kayfabe, was so amazing that he actually botched within the first few moments of the match, almost winning by accident because in the 2 seconds it took for Rock to turn around after the bell rang, he was already at the top of the cage and had to *jump back down* in order to not win. If he had won that match by very logical reasoning of The Rock simply couldn't catch or outclimb him (which was the entire point of that match) it would have been believable and, again, MAJOR heel move and he could have easily gotten stomped by the Rock shortly afterwards to have it returned to its rightful owner.
The thing is *should* Shane have won it? Well, honestly, there's a lot to be said in the history of WWE and wrestling about who should or shouldn't have won titles. If Shane had won the title he would have been neither the first nor the last person who probably didn't deserve to have their name attached to a belt but got the belt anyway due to storyline reasons. His dad had no business being champion of anything or winning the royal rumble. Stephanie had no business being women's champion when she was. To this day people crack jokes about David Arquette holding the Big Gold. There are so many cases in history of people who didn't necessarily deserve to hold titles who ended up with them because they were what the storyline at the time called for and, in that logic, giving Shane the title as Best In The World would have made his character even more infuriating (And made KO's defeat of him so much more meaningful), and giving Shane the belt during the Corporation Era in that match would have been perfectly believable and it would have made for a great moment when Rock overcame the odds of the entire corporation and McMahon family to regain it a short time later.
Just my thoughts on it.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Feb 2, 2024 18:33:20 GMT -5
Nope. He also shouldn't have been permitted to look competitive against the newly turned heel Kane in 2003. The Kane character never recovered. I was the biggest Shane McMahon fan in the world at that time, far bigger than I am now, and that feud literally made me give up on wrestling for over a decade. I know I am in the extreme minority of Shane fans in this one, but I hated every single thing about that feud and I remember getting to the point where Kane handed Shane the note. I turned to my boyfriend and said "If that's an invitation for dinner, I'm done with this company." Wellllll.....
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Post by JokerFC on Feb 2, 2024 18:40:45 GMT -5
Nope. He also shouldn't have been permitted to look competitive against the newly turned heel Kane in 2003. The Kane character never recovered. I was the biggest Shane McMahon fan in the world at that time, far bigger than I am now, and that feud literally made me give up on wrestling for over a decade. I know I am in the extreme minority of Shane fans in this one, but I hated every single thing about that feud and I remember getting to the point where Kane handed Shane the note. I turned to my boyfriend and said "If that's an invitation for dinner, I'm done with this company." Wellllll..... Man that made me lol 🤣🤣👏👏. Yeah it was sh#te
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Post by tigerlillysingh on Feb 2, 2024 18:56:38 GMT -5
Could’ve.
Should’ve? No….
Would’ve if he was ten years younger? Yeah probably, big match John would’ve had no issue laying down for him.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 2, 2024 21:14:54 GMT -5
Shane would have been a great heel Champ
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Post by hbkowns on Feb 2, 2024 21:37:35 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I enjoyed MOST of his run, mostly in the attitude era and the RA. But that return in 2016 was unnecessary. A 50 year old gray haired old man that jumped off the cell to get himself over. That heel run and feud with Roman in 2019 was the drizzling sh*ts. But if he ever won the title it would have killed the value if it, total nepotism.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Feb 2, 2024 21:56:52 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I enjoyed MOST of his run, mostly in the attitude era and the RA. But that return in 2016 was unnecessary. A 50 year old gray haired old man that jumped off the cell to get himself over. That heel run and feud with Roman in 2019 was the drizzling sh*ts. But if he ever won the title it would have killed the value if it, total nepotism. Honestly I think he would have jumped off the cell even if there was no getting over with it. Guy is an adrenaline junkie, and acrophiliac, and a pain addict who once freaked out Sean Waltman by doing a back flip out of a plane a millisecond after the light turned green. The first time he jumped off a hell in a cell was I think 2000 because he wanted to show Rikishi how easy and fun it was. Twice. That could have been an empty arena with nobody in it and no cameras running and if you set the stuff up for him, he'd do it for gits and shiggles.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Feb 2, 2024 23:54:49 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I enjoyed MOST of his run, mostly in the attitude era and the RA. But that return in 2016 was unnecessary. A 50 year old gray haired old man that jumped off the cell to get himself over. That heel run and feud with Roman in 2019 was the drizzling sh*ts. But if he ever won the title it would have killed the value if it, total nepotism. There was NO part of his teens return that I enjoyed. GM, in ring, face, heel, working with or against Daddy Shushbucks. Every Mania match was convoluted and unnecessary. Spoiled rich snot gimmick can work. Suited up taebo enthusiast coming outta the boardroom and taking trained pros to the limit straight-up to cope with his midlife crisis does not.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Feb 3, 2024 4:04:42 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I enjoyed MOST of his run, mostly in the attitude era and the RA. But that return in 2016 was unnecessary. A 50 year old gray haired old man that jumped off the cell to get himself over. That heel run and feud with Roman in 2019 was the drizzling sh*ts. But if he ever won the title it would have killed the value if it, total nepotism. There was NO part of his teens return that I enjoyed. GM, in ring, face, heel, working with or against Daddy Shushbucks. Every Mania match was convoluted and unnecessary. Spoiled rich snot gimmick can work. Suited up taebo enthusiast coming outta the boardroom and taking trained pros to the limit straight-up to cope with his midlife crisis does not. Now don't be that way... his run as a morally dubious GM made for a pretty cool trade paperback comic book. Also, HIAC 2017 set the long term booking cogs in motion for Sami and Kevin's main event Mania tag win. (I'd explain how but seriously, nobody wants THAT spiel. It is a thing though. Go read Mith's book when it comes out I'm sure she'll explain it better than I will.) So really, there was SOME good to come of it (besides Shane looking very handsome).
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Post by Evil Abed on Feb 3, 2024 12:43:15 GMT -5
There was no reason Shane should have ever won the WWE Title. He had his place on the card, but headlining PPV's? No thanks.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 3, 2024 15:04:41 GMT -5
Honestly, it would have made more sense than Vince winning it for a few days. As someone else mentioned, it wouldn’t have been shocking to see him steal the title during the Corproation era, only to have his a** handed to him shortly after. Shane was booked as cowardly and weak, but smart as hell and one of the fastest guys in the ring so it could have worked with the right story.
Could he have won it? Sure. Should he have won it? It wouldn’t have bothered me either way, especially in hindsight when we’ve had plenty of undeserving performers win a world title in recent memory.
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Post by k5 on Feb 3, 2024 17:23:56 GMT -5
dude was a really bad wrestler overall so that's a big no
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 4, 2024 7:25:40 GMT -5
Shane should have been WCW Champ in 01
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